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HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
Meeting April 12, 1990
Cultural Arts Center
119 W. 5th Street
Sanford, Florida
I. Call to Order and Roll Call
II. Approval of Minutes of March 8, 1990
III. Board Appointment
IV. Report on Design Guidelines
by Yeilding and Provost
V. Review of the Walking Tour /Reception
VI. Assignment for Distribution of
Brochures /Holders
VII. Presentation by Brenda Elliott on the Orange
County /Seminole County Historical Societies
Joint Application
VIII. Hopper Academy /Georgetown Association
Application for Florida Department of State
Prepared by Charles Rowe
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hearing, he may need a verbatim record of the proceedings,
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by the City of Sanford, (FS 286.0105)
M I N U T E S
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
April 12, 1990
4:30 P.M.
Cultural Arts Center
Sanford, Florida
Members Present:
Cal Conklin, Chairman
William "Duke" Adamson
Kay Bartholomew
Ron Fiorelli
William J. Forbes
Nancy Gunning
Donald Moore
Monte Olinger
Halford Welch
Members Absent:
Edward Blacksheare
Jerry Mills
Others in Attendance:
Bill Simmons, City Liaison
Penny Davis, Secretary
Chalmers Yeilding
Brenda Elliot
The meeting was called to order by the Chairman, Cal Conklin at
4:30 P.M.
Mr. Conklin asked the Board if there were any additional items to
be placed on the Agenda. Mr. Conklin stated he had three
additional items; 1) The budget recommendation, which he had
prepared a proposed budget. This item needs to be conducted today,
so that the City can have it for their deadline, 2) The two items
that Don brought up in the last meeting, having to do with
ordinance requirements of our jurisdiction, whether it was downtown
versus the whole City and whether we have the authority about
color, 3) Newspaper racks in the downtown area.
Don Moore moved to approve the minutes of March 8, 1990. Seconded
by Ron Fiorelli and carried by unanimous vote.
Mr. Conklin advised the Board that on March 12, 1990, the City
Commission appointed Halford M. Welch to the Historic Preservation
Board.
Mr. Conklin stated with the Board's permission he would like to
move Brenda Elliott's presentation up to the next item on the
agenda.
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Mr. Conklin stated at the last Historic Preservation Board Meeting
the Board decided to be a joint sponsor to participate in the
survey for the black community. The survey would deal with Phase
2 of the current survey the Orange County Historic Society has in
progress. He further stated he had written a letter to the. Orange
County Historical Society offering this Board's assistance and they
accepted the offer. Brenda Elliott, from the Orange County
Historical Society, is present to explain the grant application.
The Board will need to take action on this application tonight due
to the deadline.
Ms. Elliott informed the Board during the process of Phase 1 of the
grant, she discussed with Tallahassee on the estimated 500
structures exclusively in the black community of Seminole County,
Ms. Elliott stated to her surprise there were 1500 structures.
Tallahassee was delighted with the amount, but funded only for the
first 500 structures. The purpose of Phase 2 is to survey the
remaining structures. Mr. Conklin stated originally when this
project was brought up to the Board the survey was to handle both
Georgetown and Goldsboro. However, Georgetown has been covered and
they don't need any studies or funding. Mr. Conklin stated similar
to the surveys and studies that have occurred in the past the
buildings will be reviewed for both their historical and
architectural benefits. Ms. Elliott stated the buildings have to
meet criteria, they have to be 50 years old or older, they have to
fall within an identified historic area and they have to not be
material altered. If you can not look at the structure and see
what it was before it will not be qualified.
Ms. Elliott discussed the drawing of the guidelines for Phase 1.
There had to be geographical guidelines, chronological guidelines,
and historical guidelines. What was settled on was a combination
of all those to decide where to draw the boundaries and what to
include. The bottom line criteria was if an area had not been
created prior to 1913 then it was not and nor had it ever been
Orange County and could not be included. In phase 2 the constraint
is no longer there. The constraint, which is self imposed, is the
community must come in existence prior to 1940. Mr. Conklin
expressed this was a survey and there are no implication or
commitments towards the forming of Ordinances or districts.
Mr. Conklin clarified that now that the grant had been applied for
from the state with two parts local funding and one part state
money. The next step should be to hire an architectural
consultant. Ms. Elliott informed the Board that an architectural
consultant will be hired to do the architectural portion, doing the
assessment of the structures and mastersite file forms. She stated
she would be responsible for all the Historical information.
A brief discussion was held regarding the total cost of the project
as it reads in the application. Ms. Elliot informed the Board it
was $36,640. The grant funds total $14,000 and the matching local
funds total $22,000.
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Ms. Elliott discussed the format of the report. She stated the
mastersite file forms will be listed in the back of the final
report and listed by address. This will make it easier to
determine if the structure is contributing or non contributing.
There are maps drawn to show the configuration of the buildings.
Mr. Simmons commented on the budget recommendation. He stated we
are getting in directions of flat budget from last year. This
years budget is $8,050. for basically everything.., Mr. Conklin
question whether that was new money, Mr. Simmons informed him it
was. Mr. Simmons stated that as the City Commission moves into the
budget process, which will be in the months of May and June, the
Board should be in contact with the City Officials to assure they
know what the Board needs for the budget.
Mr. Adamson stated he had not seen such pride in the downtown area
in a long time, with the plaques in place and with the events that
have taken place. Mr. Conklin stated that he thought the Board was
doing some good and there is a whole new turn towards the historic
business in the City of Sanford. Ms. Elliott stated that in
Seminole County the City of Sanford probably has the best
historical resources in Central Florida.
Mr. Welch questioned the boundaries in the survey area. He asked
if they were coterminous. The Board informed him the study areas
are continuous but the it may not go all the way to the lake front.
Ms. Elliott expressed she had no problem with extending the study
area but what you will find is structures that will qualify by the
criteria of the structure, but they will not qualify for the study
due to the fact it was not the black community. This could be
identified as needing some other type of study. The Board asked
Ms. Elliott since the process is in place would it be that much of
an effort. Ms. Elliott stated no, she could draw the boundaries
and submit them to Tallahassee this would.
Ms. Elliott informed the Board they go to counsel the middle of
June, we will have a final commitment and decision in July and
start work in September. Mr. Simmons asked Ms. Elliott could they
accept the money prior to September 30, she stated they could.
Duke Adamson moved to endorse the application, for Phase 2 of the
study, in the amount of $5500 and to instruct the Chairman to write
the letter that they need to accompany the application. Seconded
by William Forbes and carried by unanimous vote.
Mr. Adamson commented if we are going to become the Historic
Community, someone needs to start talking to the Mayor and the City
Commission of expanding of the Downtown Historic Board and
incorporating it more as a single entity.
Mr. Yeilding presented an outline /list of issues for the Design
Guidelines. Mr. Yeilding stated next month he would present a
draft of the report and it will be the outline filled out. The
following month the final draft will be submitted to the Board. He
stated he would sent the draft out prior to next months meeting so
the Board members could review it and give their input.
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A discussion was held regarding the boundaries of the local
Commercial District and the National Register District in the
downtown area. Mr. Yeilding stated there was a little confusion on
the exact boundaries and how the district was set up. He stated
Jerry Mills and others cleared that up for him. Mr. Yeilding
received documentation from the State for the mastersite file for
Sanford.within your Commercial District. He was surprised that
only the buildings in the National Register District have been
surveyed and reported.
Yeilding stated that huge amounts of land in the local area is
completely undeveloped, not many in the National Register District.
This gives you two different cases to deal with. He asked the
Board if they wanted the Commercial (Local) district to have the
same character as the National Register District, same building,
scale, rhythm on the street, and the same kind of material, that
would restrict density of development.
Mr. Yeilding wanted to leave knowing how the Board would like to
deal with the differences between the two districts. Whether they
intended to favor a mandatory set of rules or totally optional or
combination of both.
The Board held a discussion regarding the contents of the
Guidelines. The consensus of the Board was to include signs and
site improvement to the Guidelines. Mr. Conklin suggested adding
parking and streets as other items for the guidelines.
There was a discussion regarding whether or not new development
should be allow for an inward focusing building versus street
focusing building. The Boards opinion was that it should have
flexibility
Mr. Yeilding discussed the buildings scale, height and mass. His
opinion was that height was the biggest issue. He gave some
examples of how the Guidelines could read regarding this issue.
Mr. Conklin suggested that there be a special single purpose
meeting called in order to discuss the Guidelines. The Board
decided to meet Thursday, April 19, 1990, at 4:30 P.M.
Mr. Conklin gave an update on the Hopper Academy /Georgetown
Association. He explained to the Board that he had written the
letter to the School Board and the School Board took action. They
agreed to lease the academy to the Georgetown Association for a
$1.00 a year. The School Board had asked Mr. Conklin several
question regarding the Georgetown Association which he gave
positive answers. He further stated he had been working with
Charles Rowe to come up with the Grant Application. At the present
time there is no application due to the Georgetown Association was
not fully prepared and are now in the process of doing the things
necessary to enable the to qualify for application of the grant.
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Mr. Conklin reported on the proposed budget. He informed the Board
that there was no money in the budget for support and participation
with the Georgetown Association on their project with Hopper
Academy. The ,consensus of the Board was to add $1,000. to the
proposed budget for participation. The Board decided to add $1,200
to the proposed budget for the replacement of the Walking Tour
Brochures. That brings the amount for the proposed budget up to
$10, 950.00.
Kay Bartholomew moved to modify the proposed budget adding $1,000
for participation with the Georgetown Association, on their project
with Hopper Academy.and $1,200 for replacement of the brochures.
Seconded by Monti Olinger and carried by unanimous vote.
As there was no further business before the Board, the meeting was
adjourned at 6:35 P.M.
Respectfully Submitted: Penny L. Davis