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HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
Meeting October 6, 1994
City Hall
City Commission Conference Room
300 N. Park Avenue
Sanford, Florida
5:00 P.M.
I. Call to Order and Roll Call
II. Excused /Unexcused Absences
III. Elect Chairman and Vice Chairman
IV. Approval of Minutes
a) September 1, 1994
V. Application for Certificate of Appropriateness
COMMERCIAL
a) 200 West First Street - Replace Sign
b) 101 West First Street - Wood Sign
c) 100 East First Street - Renovation
d) 208 & 208 1/2 South Sanford Avenue - Fence
e) 112 South Park Avenue - Awning & Sign
RESIDENTIAL
a) 1217 Palmetto Avenue - Porches, windows, Roof
b) 618 Magnolia Avenue - Siding & Paint Colors
VI. Acknowledgement of Minor Review Committee Actions:
a) 321 South Magnolia Avenue - Siding
b) 320 South Oak Avenue - Paint Colors
c) 719 South Myrtle Avenue - Picket Fence
VII. Discussion Regarding Postal Service in the Old Sanford
Historic Area
VIII. Discussion Regarding Changes to Old Sanford Historic Area
Regulations
IX. Discussion Regarding the Historic Preservation Board's
Meeting Time
X. Other Business
a) Code Enforcement - All members are encouraged
to turn in potential code violations in
writing to Penny Turner at the close of the
'meeting.
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M I N U T E S
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING
OCTOBER 6, 1994
5:00 P.M.
City Commission Conference Room
City Hall, Sanford, Florida
Members Present:
Kevin Stubbs, Chairman
Cal Conklin
Chris Cranias
Margaret Frison
Jerry Mills
Monte Olinger
Elizabeth (Bess) Simons
Laura Sollien
Helen Stairs
Laura Straehla
011ie Williams
Others in Attendance:
Russ Gibson, City Liaison
Penny Turner, Secretary
The meeting was called to order by the Chairman, Kevin Stubbs, at
5:00 P.M.
Mr. Stubbs called for an election of a Chairman and Vice Chairman
for the Historic Preservation Board. Jerry Mills re- nominated
Kevin Stubbs as Chairman. Mr. Stubbs asked for other nominations
for Chairman or Vice Chairman. 011ie Williams nominated Monte
Olinger as Vice Chairman. Monte Olinger declined the nomination.
Jerry Mills nominated Laura Sollien as Vice Chairman. Ms. Sollien
accepted the nomination. Jerry Mills moved to elect Kevin Stubbs
as Chairman and Laura Sollien as Vice Chairman of the Historic
Preservation Board. Seconded by Monte Olinger and motion was
carried by unanimous vote.
Helen Stairs moved to approve the Minutes of September 1, 1994.
Seconded by Monte Olinger and carried by unanimous vote.
Joe Notarianni, representative of Sun Bank, was present and
resubmitted the Application for Certificate of Appropriateness to
replace the existing 9ft freestanding aluminum sign at 200 West
First Street. The application was tabled at the September 1, 1994,
meeting with the recommendation that the sign be downsized and done
with like materials as the building. At that meeting the applicant
stated he would come back before the Board with two different
alternatives.
Discussion was held regarding placing brick around the entire sign.
Mr. Notarianni explained that for maintenance purposes they are
unable to place brick around the entire sign. The cabinet is an
extruded aluminum one piece manufactured cabinet. The original
proposed sign was downsized 2ft in height.
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October 6, 1994
Chris Cranias moved to approve the Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness to replace the existing 9ft freestanding aluminum
sign at 200 West First Street with the proposed downsized 7ft sign.
Seconded by Helen Stairs and carried by unanimous vote.
Denise Hurley, with Glass Addicts Stained Glass, was present and
resubmitted an Application for Certificate of Appropriateness to
attach a sign to the building at 101 West First Street. The
application was tabled at the September 1, 1994, meeting in order
to allow the applicant to look into using an awning with lettering
of a more permanent material such as wood. Ms. Hurley is now
proposing a painted permanent material for a sign at the 104 Park
Avenue entrance. She is proposing to affix the sign by bolts and
chain suspended under the common entry awning.
Chris Cranias moved to approve the Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness for the sign and. the material with the condition
that the owner approve the mounting of the sign to the building at
101 West First Street. Mrs. Stairs stated that since she gains
access to her building through the common area Carl Stairs would be
able to work with her on affixing the sign. Mr. Stubbs will
investigate where the applicant is proposing to attach the sign and
make a Minor Review determination on Saturday, October, 8, 1994 and
give Ms. Hurley a ruling at that time. Mr. Mills seconded the
motion with the condition that the bottom of the sign meets or
exceeds the City's hanging sign height requirement. The
requirement is that it must be a minimum of 8ft above the grade.
Motion was carried as follows:
Kevin Stubbs
Cal Conklin
Chris Cranias
Margaret Frison
Jerry Mills
Monte Olinger.
Aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
Bess
Simons
Aye
Laura
Sollien
Aye
Helen
Stairs
Abstain
Laura
Straehla
Aye
011ie
Williams
Aye
Mr. Emile E. Jammal, Principal, Project Manager of Lopatka Murdock
Jammal and Associates, Inc. was present and submitted an
Application for Certificate to repair the existing street canopy
and storefront at 100 East First Street.
Mr. Jammal explained that the existing canopy has structural and
water leak problems which require the following repairs:
a. Remove existing built -up roof and flashing. Repair any
sheathing and replace with new built -up roof and
flashing.
b. Remove damaged plywood soffit and light fixtures and
replace with exterior gypsum soffit board with a textured
coating.
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD - Minutes
October 6, 1994
Page 3
C. Replace existing damaged copper fascia and replace with
new copper fascia.
d. Replace damaged wood joists.
e. Replace damaged tie rods and rehab balance.
The storefront consists of wood members with aluminum (silver in)
cladding. The wood members are rotten and damaged by termites.
The repair work consists of the following:
a. Remove the storefront and replace with a new aluminum
storefront to match the existing.
b. Scrap the white paint on glazing and restore to original
look. Remove wall and chair rail on inside.
C. Remove mirror on exterior column and replace with black
marble finish to match the existing storefront knee wall.
d. Remove rusted and damaged light fixtures above entrance
doors.
e. Remove damaged mosaic tile floor in front of storefront
and replace with ceramic tile paver.
Discussion was held regarding the existing batons on the ceiling of
the canopy. The batons form a grid work on the ceiling breaking
up the mass of the underneath side of the canopy. Several members
expressed the desire to have some detail opposed to a continuous
flat surface. The Board expressed concern regarding the 12x12
ceramic tile paver being too contemporary for the Downtown
Commercial Historic District.
Monte Olinger moved to approve the Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness to repair the existing street canopy and storefront
as proposed with the following changes:
a. The mosaic tile floor in front of storefront be replaced
with a smaller scale mosaic tile. two inch maximum in
either direction. (It was recommended that the applicant
use black grout with light gray tiles.)
b. The soffit be a smooth finish instead of the textured and
batons in the ceiling similar to the existing baton
pattern.
Motion was seconded by Jerry Mills and carried by unanimous vote.
Karl Stairs, representing Aiken Printing, was present and submitted
an Application for Certificate of Appropriateness to construct a
fence partially chain link and partially rod iron with a rod iron
gate. Mr. Stairs requested a change to the original application;
he is now proposing to construct a 6ft decorative natural cypress
wooden privacy stockade fence where the application shows chain
link. The rod iron portion of the fence and the gate will be
black. The spacing on the verticals on the rod iron will be 6 inch
on center solid square.
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October 6, 1994
Monte Olinger moved to approve the Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness to construct a 6f natural cypress decorative
wooden privacy fence on the back side of the property and black rod
iron on the front of the property. Seconded by Chris Cranias and
carried as follows:
Kevin Stubbs
Aye
Bess
Simons
Aye
Cal Conklin
Aye
Laura
Sollien
Aye
Chris Cranias
Aye
Helen
Stairs
Abstain
Margaret Frison
Aye
Laura
Straehla
Aye.
Jerry Mills
Aye
011ie
Williams
Aye
Monte Olinger
Aye
Louis J. Venturello was present and submitted an Application for
Certificate of Appropriateness for an awning and sign at 112 South
Park Avenue. He is proposing to reletter the existing awning. He
is further requesting to attach a logo sign on the North side of
the building. The Board asked if he received approval from the
owner of the building on affixing the sign to the building.
Laura Straehla moved to approve the Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness with the condition that approval from the owner to
apply the logo sign to the north side of the building be received
since to the application was made by the tenant and not the
building owner. Seconded by Jerry Mills and carried as follows:
Kevin Stubbs
Aye
Bess Simons
Aye
Cal Conklin
Aye
Laura
Sollien
Aye
Chris Cranias
Aye
Helen
Stairs
Abstain
Margaret Frison
Aye
Laura
Straehla
Aye
Jerry Mills
Aye
011ie
Williams
Aye
Monte Olinger
Aye
The Board addressed the Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness to close in the front and back porch at 1217
Palmetto Avenue. This application was previously tabled at the
August 4, 1994, meeting and the September 1, 1994 meeting. A
letter was sent requesting the applicant attend this meeting to
discuss modifications to the application. A representative was not
present.
Jerry Mills moved to deny the Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness to close in the front and back porch at 1217
Palmetto Avenue. Seconded by Laura Straehla and after further
discussion was held regarding whether a condition should be
attached to this motion stipulating that the building at 1217
Palmetto Avenue should have to return to its original condition
prior to any work that being done. Jerry Mills stated he will
withdraw his motion and allow another member to make the motion
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October 6, 1994
with a condition. He based his motion on the Board reviewing this
same application three times and not having sufficient information
and the applicant not being present to clarify the work requested.
Laura Straehla stated she seconded the motion to-deny based an Mr.
Mills reasons for denial and she too will withdraw her action.
Russ Gibson explained that Code Enforcement Board's action on this
issue is pending the Historic Preservation Board's action. Code
Enforcement will proceed with it as a code violation based on lack
of maintenance and lack of compliance with the current regulations..
The owners will be given so much time to come into compliance and
in order to come into compliance they will need to come before this
Board for approval.
Jerry Mills re- stated his motion to deny the Application for
Certificate of Appropriate to close in front and back porch at 1217
Palmetto Avenue, with the recommendation that the applicant review
the regulations for the Residential Historic District and resubmit
the application, with appropriate corrections. The applicant is to
be in attendance at the meeting when the Board reviews the
corrected application. Seconded by Laura Straehla and carried by
unanimous vote.
Steven Clarke, representative with Homecrafters USA, Inc., was
present and submitted an Application. for Certificate of
Appropriateness to apply Alcoa D% Silhouette victorian gray vinyl
siding over asbestos siding of home and garage. Cover window and
door casings in white striated coil. Paint overhang of home and
garage white. Install white vinyl shutters on street sides of the
home at 618 Magnolia Avenue.
Mr. Mills expressed an interest in the condition of the wood siding
under the asbestos. He indicated that the house look structurally
sound and would like the owners to consider removing the asbestos
siding and take it back to the original wood siding. Discussion
was held regarding environmental violations due to the breaking of
the asbestos product while attaching the proposed siding. Mr..
Clarke explained that the installation procedure used does not
allow the product to get airborne. The wall is covered first by a
vapor barrier and any of the product that may become airborne will
be caught in the wall. Discussion was held regarding the cost
involved in removing the asbestos.
Laura Sollien moved to approve the Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness. Seconded by Monte Olinger and motion was carried
as follows:
Kevin Stubbs
Aye
Bess
Simons
Aye
Cal Conklin
Aye
Laura
Sollien
Aye
Chris Cranias
Aye
Helen
Stairs
Aye
Margaret Frison
Aye
Laura
Straehla
Aye
Jerry Mills
Nay
011ie
Williams
Aye
Monte Olinger
Aye
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October 6, 1994
The Board acknowledged the Minor Review Committee's actions on the
following Applications for Certificate of Appropriateness:
a) 321 South Magnolia Avenue - Siding
b) 320 South flak Avenue - Paint Colors
c) 719 South Myrtle Avenue - Picket Fence
Discussion regarding postal service in the Old Sanford Historic
District. Mr. Stubbs presented a draft of a statement to be
forwarded to the Mayor and City Commission representing the Board's
present position on postal service delivery in the Old Sanford
Historic District. He further apprised the Board that Commission
Lon Howell is currently assisting with this issue. Mr. Stubbs
stated that they are investigating what recourse individuals may
have who have received notices and put their mailboxes out by the
curbside and would prefer door service.
Cal Conklin moved to approve the statement to be forwarded to the
Mayor and City Commission representing the Board's present position
on postal service delivery in the Old Sanford Historic District.
Seconded by Chris Cranias and carried by unanimous vote.
Discussion regarding possible changes and /or clarifications to the
Old Sanford District Regulations. Mr. Stubbs stated that this will
be placed on the November 3, 1994, Agenda. The Board at that time
will review and pin point which areas of the regulations need to be
addressed.
Discussion regarding the Historic Preservation Board's 5:00 P.M.
scheduled meeting time. Jerry Mills moved to change the meeting
time from 5:00 P.M. back to 4:30 P.M.. Seconded by Monte Olinger
and carried by unanimous vote.
Neil. O'Brien, was present and asked approval to remove the
mansard /awning on the building at 119 South Magnolia Avenue. Mr.
O'Brien explained they are trying to restore the building and would
like it removed for exploratory purposes
Monte Olinger moved to approve the removal of the mansard /awning on
the building at 119 South Magnolia Avenue, based on the nature of
the renovation being proposed. Seconded by Jerry Mills with the
condition that the motion reads very clearly that it is for
demolition of the canopy only for exploratory purposes and that the
applicant is willing to come back to Board for any additional work
to be done to the exterior. Motion was carried by unanimous vote.
Mrs Stairs encouraged Mr. O'Brien to visit the Main Street office
to inquire about market analysis study that was just received. It
will assist with determining the highest and best use.
Mr. O'Brien invited the Board to go on a walkthrough of the
building Friday, October 7, 1994 at 10:30. Gary Winn, Building
Official and Tom Hickson, Fire Chief are going on the walkthrough
to provide recommendations.
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October 6, 1994
Discussion was held regarding setting up Minor Review for the
Downtown Commercial Historic District. Mr. Stubbs went over the
items that pertained to the Commercial District and stated it will
be set up similar to the Minor Review for the Old Sanford Historic
Preservation Area.
Laura Straehla moved to approve Mr. Stubb's recommendation for
Minor Review Committee for the Downtown Commercial Historic
District. Seconded by Helen Stairs and carried by unanimous vote.
Mr. Stubbs apprised the Board that the City Commission reappointed
Margaret Frison to the Board. Michael Skats was appointed to the
take the place of Laura Straehla. Bess Simons has resigned her
position on the Board. The Board congratulated Ms. Simons for her
position as the Main Street Manager.
Russ Gibson stated he will do an internal investigation to see
which staff members will be able to assist with the reviewing of
the Minor Review Applications.
The original Minor Review Committee consisted of Kevin Stubbs and
three alternates, who are Laura Straehla, Bess Simons, and Helen
Stairs. The alternates will be Monte Olinger, Helen Stairs and
Laura Sollien.
Discussion was held regarding the Board making a recommendation to
the City Commission that Laura Straehla be a reappointed in Bess
Simons position. It was decided that the Board needed to make a
formal written recommendation to the City Commission
Jerry Mills made a motion to write a formal written recommendation
to the City Commission expressing that the Board feels that Ms.
Straehla is an excellent member and a valuable participant and
would like for her to be reappointed in Ms. Simons position.
Seconded by Monte Olinger and carried as follows:
Kevin Stubbs
Aye
Bess
Simons
Aye
Cal Conklin
Aye
Laura
Sollien
Aye
Chris Cranias
Aye
Helen
Stairs
Aye
Margaret Frison
Aye
Laura
Straehla
Abstain
Jerry Mills
Aye
011ie
Williams
Aye
Monte Olinger
Aye
Ms. Sollien suggested that when a Board member's term is ready to
expire the member contact each Commission Member and make it clear
that they would like to serve again.
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October 6, 1994
Page B
Mrs. Stairs asked the Board's assistance and guidance pertaining to
the fire codes related to historic building. The Fire Marshall has
informed her that the renovation of the Touchton Building is
considered new construction. Fire retention walls will have to be
installed and it almost makes the renovation unfeasible because of
the cost. The Board suggesting applying layers of fire rated
drywall to what is currently there and by proving that the life
safety issue is not an issue after renovation. Mr. Mills stated
her architect should be able to provide the information and they
should be dealing with the City Officials.
Discussion was held regarding the attendance policy. The secretary
will report, at the beginning of each meeting, if there are any
members in violation of the attendance policy and the Board will
take action at that time.
There being no further business before the Board, the meeting was
adjourned at 6:45 P.M.
Respectfully Submitted By: Penny Turner