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Historic Preservation Board
Meeting of Thursday, March 12, 1997
4:30 P.M.
City Manager's Conference Room
I. Call to order and roll call.
II. Consideration of requests for Certificates of Appropriateness.
a. 201 West Commercial Street (Ideal Garage)
Owner - Jeno F. Paulucci
Speaker - James D. Hemphill (Property Manager)
b. 202 West 1st Street (Freight Depot)
Labor Force of Central Florida
Speaker - Mr. Walter Jensen
Request - Installation of 4x5 lighted sign for advertisement.
III. Report on status of RFP for Historic District Survey.
IV. Varia.
Reminder:
4:15 meeting at Mr. Gross' building to review plaques.
M I N U T 8 S
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
Meeting of March 12, 1987
4:30 P.M.
Members in Attendance:
Jerry Mills
Duke Adamson
Shirley Moak
Jerry Gross
Lon Howell
Bill Gielow
Vivienne Sweeney
Frank Whigham
John Puder
Members Absent:
Ed Blacksheare - excused
Cal Conklin - excused
Others in Attendance:
Mr. Jim Hemphill - Representing Mr. Jeno Paulucci
Mr. Harris Turner - Attorney for Mr. Paulucci
Mr. Walter Jensen - Representing Freight Depot
Mr. Craig Wood - Representing Freight Depot
Chairman Mills called the meeting to order at 4:30 P.M. He intro-
duced and welcomed Mr. Frank Whigham to the Board.
The first item on the agenda is 201 West Commercial Street (Ideal
Garage). Mr. Jim Hemphill representing the owner, Mr. Jeno
Paulucci, made presentation relative to the complaints of broken
windows they have received. He stated that they would like to board
up the windows with plywood. Mr. Hemphill said that they have no
plans at present to renovate the building and that the second floor
is for storage only. One reason for the plywood concept is that no
one could see inside of the building.
Mr. Adamson said that is just seems a shame that we have to put
plywood up when the police protection should preclude people
breaking windows in downtown Sanford.
Mr. Howell asked why the Ideal Garage are the only one having
problems.
The Chairman stated that it is a relatively vacant looking building.
Ms. Gielow asked how long has it been since the windows were
replaced.
Mr. Hemphill stated about 8 months. No windows have been broken in
the last 4 to 5 months.
Mr. Adamson stated that once 2 or 3 are broken it looks like it
might be a target to break more which would suggest to him that may
be just the opposite is true if the windows were fixed it might not
be so susceptible to breakage.
Mr Hemphill said that they have tried this and it hasn't worked in
the past and that's why they want to try the concept of plywood.
Mr. Adamson stated that he has the greatest respect for Mr. Paulucci
but what Mr. Hemphill is asking for on the plywood, in his opinion,
is going to make it look tacky.
Mr. Harris Turner, attorney for Mr. Paulucci, stated that it would
be a continuing maintenance problem if window panes are put back in.
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Mr. Turner stated that they wanted to do something a little better
than what is there now; wanted to do something that is a little more
permanent so that they would not have a problem continually; and
wanted to do something that looks fairly decent.
Chairman Mills stated that he was called and asked his opinion and
at that time he thought the original sash was still in the building
and in looking at it he sees that it is not. The Chairman has even
less of a problem with doing this sort of a thing.
Mr. Turner stated that their problem is unique because it is the
second floor only; it's a maintenance problem, there are already
boarded up windows on the second floor which they could leave in
place. Mr. Turner stated that they would leave the boarded up win-
dow in place and replace glass in the other windows. Mr. Turner
said that when they figure out what they are going to do with the
Ideal Garage and rehab the whole garage then they will be back in
front of the Board with lots of ideas and that is the time to
replace the windows with the original windows or come up with a per-
manent solution. This is a temporary solution although it could be
for 6 months or 5 years or 20 years. It is a temporary solution, it
is a better solution than the current solution.
Mr. Adamson said that the idea is to restore things so that they
resemble that which they looked like once. Where there is a hole in
the side of the building where there once was a window, I would like
to see a window not a board.
Mr. Gross asked why not put the windows back in instead of the
plywood. He stated that if this was done vandalism probably would
not occur. Vandalism happens because it looks like its abandoned.
The Chairman stated that in certain cases he thinks it would be
appropriate if it was done sensitively if painted appropriately.
Ms. Moak made motion to deny the Certificate of Appropriateness.
Seconded by Mr. Howell.
No further discussion.
All in favor.
Mr. Puder and the Chairman opposed.
Motion carried.
Mr. Gross stated that he would do a follow -up letter to Mr. Paulucci
stating why it was actually turned down instead of going through a
third party.
Chairman Mills - the next item on the agenda is 202 West 1st
Street, the old Freight Depot, Labor Force of Central Florida, and
Mr. Walter Jensen is here.
Mr. Jensen stated that he represents Carriage Realty and they manage
the building called Freight Depot at 212 W. 1st Street at the corner
of Myrtle Avenue and West lst Street. Mr. Jensen stated that Labor
Force, Inc. is a Florida corporation which directs its activities to
the general employment of casual labor on a contractual basis.
Consideration is requested for a sign to be placed in the front of
the building addressing 1st Street which would identify the activity
to personnel that would be looking for the premises early in the
morning. The sign would be set back 20' from the sidewalk and is
proposed to be 4 with the words Labor Force. The sign would be
professionally painted.
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Mr. Adamson made motion to approve the Certificate of
Appropriateness.
Mr. Howell seconded.
Mr. Puder asked if there would be lights on the sign.
Mr. Craig Woods, President of Labor Force, stated that there would
not, there is enough illumination from the street lights.
The Chairman requested that they do the sign similar to colors of
the building.
All in favor.
No opposed.
Motion carried.
Chairman Mills - item 3 on the agenda is the report on the status of
the request for proposal for historic district survey. The request
for proposals are out. Chairman Mills stated that the Board has a
request from Mr. Simmons that two people from the Board assist in
the selection of the surveyor. The Chairman appointed himself and
Mr. Gross volunteered.
At this point it was considerable discussion relative to Mr.
McDonald's application for next month's meeting. It was decided
that the Board would let them do whatever they wanted to on the
ground floor but the Board show them something a little bit
better than what they are proposing on the second floor. The
Chairman stated that what it looks like, in each of those openings,
Should be a pair of double hung windows and try to get then not to
put on the shutters.
Mr. Adamson is to talk to Mr. McDonald to present the recommen-
dations of the Board before next month's meeting.
Under the issue of signs, Mr. Adamson recommended that when the signs
are ordered to make sure that each sign has a }° or an 1/8" of
plexiglass cover. Signs are to be offered to anyone inside the
Historic District, National Registered buildings are first.
Mr. Adamson made motion to approve black and silver plaques.
Seconded by Ms. Sweeney.
All in favor.
No opposed.
Motion carries.
It was decided that with this year's budget money, matching sign
money would be for the buildings that are listed on the National
Register.
Meeting adjourned at 6:00.