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1 1 BEFORE THE SANFORD CITY COMMISSION
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6 In re: Executive Session, Attorney- Client
Session, April 14, 2000, 3:00 p.m.
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11 REPORT OF PROCEEDINGS before the Sanford City
12 Commission on Friday, April 14, 2000, in the City
13 Manager's Conference Room, Sanford City Hall, 300
14 North Park Avenue, Sanford, Seminole County,
15 Florida, commencing at 3:00 p. m., pursuant to
16 Notice herein, the Honorable LARRY A. DALE, Mayor,
17 presiding.
18 Commissioners present: VELMA H. WILLIAMS,
19 BRADY LESSARD and HERBERT "WHITEY" ECKSTEIN.
20 Also present: Mr. tony Van Derworp, City
21 Manager.
22 APPEARANCES:
23 WILLIAM L. COLBERT, Esquire, City Attorney.
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(Thereupon the following proceedings were had
in public forum:)
MAYOR DALE: All right. Are you ready, Bill?
MR. COLBERT: Yes, I'm ready when you are.
MAYOR DALE: We'll call the meeting to order.
This is a public meeting to discuss the
Seminole Volunteer Enterprises and the pending suit
against the City concerning that food establishment.
All right. Bill, we'll turn it over to you.
MR. COLBERT: Okay. Thank you, Mayor. You
will recall at your regular Council meeting Monday I
requested an attorney- client session.
Hopefully it won't take us a long time, but I
did want, in light of some recent developments, to
have some discussion with you as the City
Commission, my Client, and get your input on
strategy and cost - containment issues and that type
of thing.
Mrs. Reischmann was originally scheduled to be
with me today. She can't be because she had to go
to Oviedo to handle some matters there.
But I'm going to go ahead and take care of what
we need to do here from our standpoint and then get
your input.
And then she and I will discuss it. I would
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expect the meeting to take a half hour or perhaps a
little longer.
At the conclusion of the meeting we will
reconvene publicly to adjourn.
But I'm ready to go into session at any time
you folks are.
MAYOR DALE: Okay. We'll take a second to
close the door and go into Executive Session.
(Thereafter the following proceedings were had
in Executive Session:)
MR. COLBERT: This is the third Attorney - Client
Session that we've had on the DiSantis Case.
And I always take a moment, particularly for
purposes of the record, to remind you that this is a
special provision of the Florida Statutes that we're
operating under.
Everything that is said in this room will be
released at the conclusion of the litigation.
So treat this just as you would any other
regular discussion of City business; because it
will be public record at the conclusion of the
litigation.
Having said that, I just want to kind of bring
you -all up -to -date and give you a couple of thoughts
of mine.
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And then get some input if I can on where you
would like for us to go from this point.
As I said, we've had a couple of Attorney -
Client Sessions.
At the last Session it was my understanding
that there was a consensus of the Commission to see
about trying to get a mediated settlement.
And subsequent to that meeting I had some
discussions with Mr. Jones, Mike Jones.
And I ... persuaded, I guess is the way I want to
say it ... them that mediation would be appropriate in
this case.
They were not inclined to mediate initially;
but I felt that it was appropriate and would be
cost - effective at least potentially so.
Seminole Volunteer Enterprises had agreed, I
think, before we met at the last time, that if there
was a mediation that they would participate in it.
And that mediation occurred a little over a
week ago now.
The Mayor was present. The City Manager was
present. Mrs. Reischmann was present.
I was not present, because that was the day of
my uncle's funeral; and I was involved in handling
matters.
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But it is my understanding that as a result of
that mediation that there was a potential settlement
that the DiSantis Group and the Seminole Volunteer
Enterprises group were willing to enter into,
subject to City Commission approval.
At the last Commission Meeting the Commission
had the Agreement in front of them; and a motion
was made but not seconded.
So the City did not take action on that. From
a legal standpoint it's my position that the City
did not approve; nor did it disapprove that
potential mediated settlement.
It simply at that point, for lack of a second,
did not take action.
I would like to recommend to you that this be
placed on the agenda for the next City Commission
Meeting for action to be taken.
Now, that action could be approval; it could be
disapproval if the Commission were so inclined.
But I think there needs to be action taken for
several reasons.
And those reasons are, one, right now the City
is in a little bit of a delicate situation by not
taking action on that matter.
We're in a delicate situation with the Court,
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in that we were ordered to mediate and mediate in
good faith.
And I think the Court would expect us to take
action and not to simply not take action, based upon
the Order to Mediate.
The second thing is, from a legal standpoint,
there is an Agreement that both parties at least at
that point in time were willing to abide by.
And there are citizens of the City, whether
it's on the DiSantis side or on Seminole Volunteer
Enterprises' side, they are all citizens of the
City.
I think it is appropriate that a decision be
made from that standpoint, at least to try to bring
some closure to it.
The Attorneys for Seminole Volunteer
Enterprises had said that they are moving to
intervene in the case.
That is appropriate, in that we've wanted them
in the case all along.
I think there is a hearing set for April 20th
on their Motion to Intervene and actually enter the
case.
They have been on the sidelines until now. But
as of April 20th, assuming that Motion is granted,
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and I expect that it will be, they are going to be
in the case.
So that gets them subject to the jurisdiction
of the Court, even beyond potential mediation.
And it gets them subject to whatever orders the
Court may enter later as we go down that road.
There was a Temporary Injunction Hearing on the
eleventh. I think that was Tuesday.
And the Court, on the thirteenth, which I
believe was yesterday, issued an Order. The effect
of that Order is that the City is enjoined right now
from taking any action to modify the Development
Order for ninety days.
So, Judge Freeman entered an Order that he
intends to preserve the status -quo. And that we
can't amend the Development Order or make changes
for the next ninety days.
MAYOR DALE: Well, that means we couldn't
accept the mediated Agreement, then.
MR. COLBERT: I think we could accept if the
condition --
MAYOR DALE: Because that does modify the
Development Order.
MR. COLBERT: I understand what you're saying.
I think if the Commission chose to accept the
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mediated settlement, the way it would have to be
done would be to accept the mediated settlement
subject to the Court's approval.
That would be the motion, because now the
Injunction has been entered.
If the Settlement Agreement is not accepted
we're going to be in protracted litigation for more
than a year.
The expenses are going to mount. And I
believe that there is the potential before we finish
this that both sides are going to be taking shots at
the City.
And that I would not be surprised if farther
down the road they're going to take the position we
could have mediated and settled this- -
MAYOR DALE: Well, why didn't they get up and
say that the other night? They sat there like
bumps on a log.
MR. COLBERT: I understand. And, you know,
I'm not taking issue with anything.
I'm just advising my Clients right now.
That's all I'm doing.
I think that it is likely that both sides are
going to view the City as an adversary if the
litigation gets protracted and both will potentially
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take the position that it could have been settled
but for the City's lack of agreement; and attempt
to later charge the City with bad faith for not
settling it, which is why I want the Commission to
take action Yes or No.
And also, potentially ask for court costs and
attorney's fees down the road.
Now, I'm not sure they'll get that. I'm not
suggesting that they will, but I think they're going
to both be adversaries to the City as we go down the
road.
So, to really summarize where I am, I wanted to
advise you of what has happened since we last had an
Attorney - Client Session.
I wanted to give you the reasons why I feel
that we should take action one way or another on
that Settlement Agreement at the next meeting.
And I want to advise you of what I see as some
of the issues and the length of the litigation if it
is not settled.
And having said all of those things, I'd like
to hear from you -all to see if there is a consensus
or if you have any questions about what I've said.
MAYOR DALE: Well, like I say, they had every
opportunity to speak. I looked at them three times
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and I asked them if they wished to address the
commission on it.
And they sat right there and didn't say a
damned thing.
MR. COLBERT: I know.
MAYOR DALE: All they had to do was to come up
there and say, "Yes, we would like you to pass this
Agreement."
MR. COLBERT: And I don't know why they didn't.
MAYOR DALE: And I, I, number one, I don't like
Howard Marks. I didn't like him when he was
involved with the ACLU in that suit and things out
at the college.
He tried to get victory out of compromise. He
got himself in trouble on this one; he called
immediately after the mediation and said, "We won."
Told the press that.
And stirred up everything to the point that- -
and me telling Katie to call him and say, "If you
do this, you're going to jeopardize the mediation."
And they opened anyway.
MR. COLBERT: And I think-- -
MAYOR DALE: And I've been- -
MR. COLBERT: And I think there has been some
discussion between our office and theirs, also.
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MAYOR DALE: Well, and there was, yes. And
then Jean wrote me a letter saying, you know, she
would like to open.
And I said, "I don't have - -" and she wrote it
to me as Mayor, and I said, "I don't have that
authority, you know, it has to come from the
Commission."
"And I would advise you, you know- -
MR. COLBERT: Right.
MAYOR DALE: "- -not to, because it could
jeopardize the mediation."
Now, those Plaintiffs knew that. And then
they were quoted in the paper as, you know, being
upset with everybody, bad faith, they didn't do
this, and then they didn't come and open their
mouths.
They did not open their mouths at the meeting.
Okay?
MR. COLBERT: I understand.
MAYOR DALE: For those reasons, I wasn't going
to second the motion. Number one, I've been the
brunt of Jean Metts and Katrina Kaye and all of that
ugliness, you know, for simply stating my beliefs
about the poor planning.
And, number two, I don't like Howard Marks in
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any way. And I obviously was not going to second
the motion.
However, had the motion been seconded it may
have been a completely different outcome. But, you
know, I think it is ... I think it is ... for Joe
DiSantis to get in the paper and say the things he
has done now about this things should have been
settled, What was the City thinking?
And what was he thinking? Where were you?
Joe, you were sitting right there. You know, when
you were given the opportunity to speak, why didn't
you come down and say Look, we would like for you to
pass this?
Rather than leave it on the onus of somebody
else who doesn't have a clue as to what they really
want, after what Howard Marks tried to do by
claiming victory out of you -all's compromising.
And that is exactly what he tried to do. It is
what he always tries to do.
And, quite frankly, I think he did a big
disservice to his Client. I guess when you get
something for nothing that's what you get, is
nothing. So --
MR. COLBERT: Well, there has been a lot of
rhetoric by a lot of different people on different
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sides of this. And, unfortunately, that does
occur.
And I understand what you're saying about it.
I don't disagree with what you're saying.
MAYOR DALE: Well, those are the reasons, I
mean I'm talking to my fellow- Commissioners here. I
did not second it for those reasons.
Number one, I don't like Howard Marks. Number
two, I didn't like what he did. And number three,
the Plaintiffs, who were the, really, the mediators,
didn't come forward and say boo, Yea, No, kiss my
foot, nothing.
MR. COLBERT: Understood.
COMMISSIONER LESSARD: Well, if this is
confession time of why we didn't step into it or
vote for it: I wouldn't have voted for it.
And I still, I can't vote for it. And, Bill, I
don't, you know... and --- and people, the DiSantis' of
the world are mad at me.
And I'm sure that the folks on the other side
are. I can't vote for the thing, because it doesn't
reconcile the problem of the LDR.
I'm not representing the Plaintiffs in this and
I'm not being the adversary.
I am an adversary of the departure from the
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LDR. If we're keeping costs down ... and I agree
that we should, but I just, I think if we sanction
it or - -This is why I'm voting against it.
And if it comes back up and it passes,
hopefully we never hear another thing about it.
But I think that if I vote for it and sanction
it, then we are opened up to some future litigation.
So I, I can't vote for it.
MR. COLBERT: I understand and respect what
you're saying. And I'm not here trying to force the
Commission to take a particular action.
I do feel that there are some legal issues and
some problems.
I just want you -all to be fully apprised and
apprised of what the consequences of different
actions could be and form a consensus if you can.
And take a vote at the next meeting, and then
we'll all be bound by it.
MAYOR DALE: Well, I think you're right. We
need to take action on it. It is a - -And I certainly
agree with Brady.
I voted against it for the same thing. But,
Brady, I think we've learned a big lesson from it.
And I've listened to the Commission, you know,
as we talked about other issues.
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And I think we learned a lesson from it. And
I think, quite frankly, it's time to put this behind
us and move on.
COMMISSIONER LESSARD: Well, I don't- -
MAYOR DALE: Because I think we learned that
lesson. I think that we are going to act
differently from a planning perspective, now, from
now on.
Not that we won't have different views from an
emotional standpoint on how people should be helped
and this and that and the other.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Yes.
MAYOR DALE: But my whole thing wasn't based
on whether this was helpful to the people. I think
it is.
My whole thing was based on, and Brady's was,
from a planning perspective and violating our own
regulations.
MR. COLBERT: Yes.
MAYOR DALE: So, you know ... and knowing when
Mac comes back—and I think he will, we'll put this
to bed even if he's on his death bed.
I think there is a consensus.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Well, I would just
like to say that --
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MAYOR DALE: Yes.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I am anticipating,
since I've heard officially that we can - -I assume
that you - - -I assume that we can bring it back up.
That is an interesting thing ... to bring it back
up for reconsideration.
I don't know why there are some who think that
I have an ownership to second the motion.
MAYOR DALE: Or amend.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Then I should have
seconded the motion. However, I wanted to explain
to you why I didn't. Whether you think it was
logical or not or a good reason but I don't know
why, but I just assumed - -and they say you don't
assume, because you know what happens, but I assumed
that there was a consensus, okay? after the
mediation.
And I didn't think that there would be any
reservation by anybody about seconding it.
And so when the motion was made I reached for
the Mayor's gavel ... but I'm serious... There is no
way in the world if I had thought that you wouldn't
have seconded it or anybody wouldn't have seconded,
I would have reached for the gavel - -I wouldn't have
done that, you know.
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I was serious when I reached for his gavel, but
I'm assuming that, Hey, no problem with a seconding.
Number one, he didn't even look at me. Then I
became more nervous.
And I said Oh, gee, if I second this motion
here and then I didn't hear Brady say anything.
At that time I had not read where Brady had
said anything about he wasn't going to support it.
The only thing that came to my mind at that
split second was that If I second this motion there
would be a tie vote.
And if there is a tie vote, you know, nothing
happens. And so I began to think about Mac ... I
said Maybe if I don't second it and nothing happens,
I have the opportunity to bring it back up after a
conference call.
Those are the things that went through my mind,
you know. And I didn't even know that there was a
co -- appearing the next - -maybe I should have known,
you know, maybe I didn't read the correspondence
back and forth.
But that was my reason.
MAYOR DALE: For future reference, Mayor's
Rule of Order, if it is a tie vote or even if there
is a vote in the positive, those that voted for the
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motion, in the affirmative, can bring it up either
at that meeting or at the next meeting.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: If there is a majority.
MAYOR DALE: To reconsider. No, it doesn't
have to be a majority.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Because, see, that is
what I was ... I always thought that- -
MAYOR DALE: Well, if you voted in the
affirmative and it failed for lack of a majority,
you could have brought it back up either at that
same meeting or at the next meeting.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Well, I thought it had
to do with the majority.
MAYOR DALE: Well, this is for future
reference.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Or that type of thing,
so I--
MAYOR DALE: For future reference, if you vote
in the affirmative, okay? you can bring it- -and it
is either a tie or it won, you can bring it back up
either at that meeting or the next meeting.
Now, if you voted against it, you can't.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I knew about that, but
I thought it was a majority. I thought that it - -And
I felt that really it was just like a tie, it is a
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vote - -a tie is like -- - it's a vote but it really
doesn't accomplish anything.
MAYOR DALE: If you voted in the minority you
can't bring it back up.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I know if you voted
with the majority you can.
MAYOR DALE: If you voted in the majority you
can bring it back up.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I know about the
majority and the minority and so forth.
MAYOR DALE: And if it's a tie you can bring it
up.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Now, that's where I
had, I was in a quandary about the tie. And I felt
that if nothing- -
MAYOR DALE: In fact, I would suppose anybody
could bring it up if there was a tie, because there
was no action taken.
MR. COLBERT: I haven't researched that. I
think that is a probability.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I just didn't know.
MAYOR DALE: I would have allowed it to have
been brought up again.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Well, I didn't know,
and that was my position on it. And I said, I was
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sitting there thinking, Well, we can have a
conference call.
MAYOR DALE: And since there was no second on
it, it could have been brought up again. Anybody
could have brought it up and said Well, let's try
this motion.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Well, that is why, that
was my rationale for not seconding it.
MR. COLBERT: And I understand.
COMMISSIONER LESSARD: And here is a question:
On this - -And I thought Jean could go get a vote from
Mac. That is --
MAYOR DALE: No, he has to be present to vote.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: A conference call,
right?
MR. COLBERT: No.
MAYOR DALE: You can't vote by phone and you
can't vote by proxy.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: I know you couldn't
vote by proxy, but- -
MAYOR DALE: You have to be personally present.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Okay.
MAYOR DALE: So, you know, I believe ... my
feeling, to the contrary of what we did .... because I
think what we did was wrong. And I voted against it
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for that reason.
But for the sake of putting it back - -After
reading the comments in the papers from DiSantis and
others, I could kick their behinds for not coming up
there and saying something the night of the meeting,
instead of just sitting there like bumps on a log.
MR. COLBERT: Yes.
MAYOR DALE: I really didn't participate in the
mediation. We all broke up, you know, basically
what we did in mediation, Bill- -
MR. COLBERT: They divide you up.
MAYOR DALE: Well, he sat right there and
explained what he was going to do, and got the
lawyers, by the way, to sign a confidentiality
thing.
He didn't have everybody else sign it. He said
he usually does, but there was too many, that he was
just going to have the lawyers do it.
So they all signed the confidentiality
statement, even though Marks called the press
immediately thereafter.
They all signed the confidentiality statement,
and then he put us in the conference room.
Tony and I went in one room and twiddled our
thumbs, read the paper, made telephone calls, went
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out and smoked a cigar, you know, several other
things.
And talked with Katie a little bit. And
finally Harvey came in and talked to us some.
And, you know ... and then the rest of the time
they - -I really didn't know what was happening in
there.
I went to lunch. And then had a lunch, and
came back and they had decided maybe they were going
to settle it, and --
MR. VAN DERWORP: That isn't unusual, because
it was a settlement agreement that was really
reached between a party that wasn't a party- -
MR. COLBERT: A non - party, right.
MR. VAN DERWORP: - -a non -party at that time.
MAYOR DALE: And it really wasn't reached with
us, as the- -
MR. VAN DERWORP: But normally it would have
been.
MAYOR DALE: -- Defendants. It was a strange
deal.
So they spent more time talking with the
Seminole Volunteer Enterprises folks and the
Plaintiffs than they did with us.
And I didn't know until they came back about
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2:30, I guess, when I got back from lunch and sat
around some more ... that they had reached an
agreement, they typed it up, you know. I supposed
it would be subject to Commission approval instead
of putting it in there that way.
Tony signed it subject to Commission approval.
I said Fine, you know. I was surprised that they
had reached it, that is, the stuff that they were
talking about before.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Excuse me a minute.
Tony, you weren't in there while they were mediating
those issues? or you weren't supposed to be in
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MAYOR DALE: No. Well, they were caucusing.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Oh, okay.
MR. COLBERT: Well, the way the mediation goes
most of the time - -it is unusual to have three
different parties, but there were three here.
COMMISSIONER WILLIAMS: Oh, okay.
MR. COLBERT: And the way mediators normally do
it, they get everyone together and kind of explain
the ground rules.
And you get all the parties ... if there are
three parties, they go to three different rooms.
And the mediator goes into the rooms and then
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tries to resolve the issues in conflict.
The thinking of that is, if you remove the
parties to kind of a neutral territory the mediator
can have discussions and bring about compromise.
But if all of the parties are across from each
other, tempers flare and issues escalate more than
get resolved.
And so that is the way mediation is normally
done in Florida. This is not unusual mediation
except that there were three parties, which made it
a little bit unique.
And I say three parties; one really wasn't a
party, but three came to mediation.
MAYOR DALE: Well, if there is a consensus
here, and I believe there, maybe there is a
consensus for you to contact the parties and say
Okay ... I mean if you're willing to do that.
MR. COLBERT: Well, there is no problem with
us, our office contacting theirs and telling them
that we're going to have it on the agenda and there
appears to be a consensus to resolve it, I don't
have a problem with that.
There has been some rhetoric by at least one
side that they're not sure that they're willing to
do it now.
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MAYOR DALE: Well, and then they kept saying in
the paper, Well, I'm amazed, I thought we had this
settled—
MR. COLBERT: But my point is this, from the
City's standpoint: That the mediation agreement
simply said that it was subject to the approval of
the City Commission.
MAYOR DALE: It didn't say when.
MR. COLBERT: It did not say Subject to the
approval of the City Commission at the next meeting;
and if the Commission failed to take action this is
null and void and of no further force or effect.
So that's why I want a decision made on that.
MAYOR DALE: Well, I wasn't even contacted,
you know, I just let it come up again.
MR. COLBERT: And if the decision is made that
the City approves that; and if for some reason one
of the sides wants to back away from it, at least
I'm more comfortable that we have covered the City's
bases. And—
MAYOR DALE: Well, I'll agendize this for the
next meeting and we'll take action on it.
MR. COLBERT: If you'd like I'll send you a
letter asking that it be agendized or you can simply
do it, whichever you're comfortable with. It makes
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no difference to me.
But I do want it on the agenda.
MAYOR DALE: Well, then, I'll just put it on
there, then.
MR. COLBERT: Okay.
MAYOR DALE: Unless you want to send a letter.
It doesn't matter. It's not necessary.
MR. COLBERT: Well, I'd be glad to do it for
you if you would like me to.
MAYOR DALE: No, I'll just put it on the
agenda.
MR. COLBERT: Okay. The reason for it being on
there is that no action taken at the last meeting.
You don't have to state a reason, but if somebody
asks you, that's the reason.
MAYOR DALE: Right. Well, Velma would have
brought it up again anyway. She's done it before.
MR. COLBERT: I guess what I'm saying is I
would like to see it as an agenda item. Because
sometimes people complain that it wasn't on the
agenda.
It really doesn't have to be, but if it's on
there then somebody can't say Well, I didn't know it
was up for discussion.
MAYOR DALE: We'll put it on there. Tony has
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already got it no
MR. COLBERT:
have something to
COMMISSIONER
MAYOR DALE:
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ted over there.
Commissioner Eckstein, did you
say?
ECKSTEIN: No.
All right.
LESSARD: Do you want me to aet
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the door?
MAYOR DALE: We'll adjourn the Executive
Session and, Bill will close the meeting with opened
doors.
(Thereafter the following proceedings were had
in public forum:)
MAYOR DALE: Okay. Having had the Executive
Session, we'll open it back up for public meeting.
And if there are no other comments, and I don't see
anybody here that have any questions, Mr. Colbert?
MR. COLBERT: Mayor, I would just like to in
the public portion of the meeting thank the
Commission for coming together.
I appreciate the Commission's input. I know
what we need to do at this point. It is now about
3:30. I predicted this might be a thirty- minute
meeting, and I want the record to reflect that I was
correct. So I thank you very much. And that's all
I have.
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MAYOR DALE: Okay. Thank you very kindly.
(Thereupon the meeting was concluded.)
CERTIFICATE OF NOTARY /CSR
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COUNTY OF SEMINOLE
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I, C. B. Ellerbe, CP, CSR and Notary Public,
State of Florida at Large, do hereby certify that I
was authorized to and did report the proceedings in
the foregoing cause, Pages 1 through 28.
I further certify that said transcription is a
true and correct record of my stenographic report of
said cause.
IN WITNESS WHEREOF I have hereunto affixed my
hand and official seals this the 24th day of April,
A. D., 2000.
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