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Minutes
Wednesday, May 13, 1998 7:00 P.M.
City Commission Conference Room
PRESENT: Bernard Brown, Linda Kuhn, Richard Huber, Tom Carpenter, Dean Ray,
Rev. Ricky Scott, Joan Campbell, Paul Legge, Cmdr Thomas Bronson,
Deputy Police Chief Dennis Whitmire, Police Chief Joe Dillard, and Gracy Posley
Public: Virgil Harley (Glass Addicts)
Chairperson Mr. Brown is present, but ill; request Vice - Chairperson Mrs. Kuhn chair the CAB
meeting. This meeting was called to order by Vice - Chairperson Mrs. Kuhn. Mrs. Kuhn
requested approval of CAB minutes for April 8, 1998 if there are no changes or corrections.
Motion made by Mr. Legge, seconded by Mr. Brown for the minutes to be approved.
Ms. Daliah Laing of formerly Barbara's House of Fun and formerly Tip Top Store - W. 13th St.
was not present at the meeting. She did not schedule an appointment with Police Chief Dillard
as agreed at the April 8, 1998 meeting. Cmdr Bronson advise the businesses are closed.
Barbara's House of Fun activities were brought before the Nuisance Abatement Board several
times. Numerous drug arrests were made. Surveillance revealed drug deal activities. Cmdr
Bronson advise Ms. Laing's father, owner of the businesses has been sent back to Jamaica due
to criminal investigations. Mr. Huber comment owners are responsible for what goes on in and
outside their business.
Cmdr Bronson state the drug dealers have moved to Kim's Store, W. 13th St. because the other
businesses No Loitering is being enforced. Mr. Brown asked if police officer Fred Johnson could
tell a citizen to go back into a business and not stand in front of the business even if the citizen
gave a legitimate reason? Chief Dillard advise if citizens are committing a crime on the right -of-
way they can be removed; if not committing a crime they cannot be forced to move.
Mrs. Campbell comment the Sheriff's Office is more visible than the police department in the
Goldsboro area. Cmdr Bronson state the deputies in that area do not answer routine calls as
the police officers do. The deputies function in Goldsboro is for Community Policing. Rev. Scott
state a recent newspaper article (did not state the contents of the article) possibly watered down
Community Policing in Goldsboro. Police Chief Dillard advise the officers requested to be
transferred due to no longer being comfortable in the assignment; their request was granted.
Rev. Scott state the article was blown out of proportion. The community was asking for officers
that could be related to. Cmdr Bronson advise the four community policing deputies are White,
their supervisor is Black. Rev. Scott's hopes are for barriers to come down to unite as a
community. Mr. Carpenter's perspective is the Goldsboro area had a severe problem with crime.
The Sheriff's Office was brought in to assist the police department. Mr. Carpenter says things
are exceptional and see nothing wrong with the Sheriff's Office and the police department
working together. Mrs. Campbell comment if routine patrolling was visible by the police
department, the Sheriff's Office would not have had to come in. Police Chief Dillard state the
primary focus is to be proactive rather than reactive in providing a better quality of life, rather it's
the Sheriff's Office or the police department. Cmdr Bronson state the police department has had
setbacks due to retirements and officers leaving for better paying jobs; the police department's
objectives will be carried out. Mentioned the CDBG grant initiated by Commr Williams has been
approved for four deputies and four police officers in a joint effort to improve the quality of living.
Mr. Legge ask the ratio for officers per citizens. Police Chief Dillard advise 3.5 officers /1,000
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citizens; the police department is approximately allocated. Mr. Huber ask Cmdr Bronson if the
department is presently under staffed? Cmdr Bronson responds yes, we are down nine officers.
There is an active recruitment going on thru Sgt Presley/Training Division; SCC recently had a
graduating class. The police department would like to hire minority officers, so diversity can be
provided in the community. Police Chief Dillard state Sanford's starting salary is still low
compared to other local agencies; officers are going where pay is higher. Deputy Police Chief
Whitmire state the officer application process is now different and quicker. Now there is a pool
of applicants to choose from rather than having a select group for only the dates opened for the
position. Mr. Huber state he would like to see only citizens who live in Sanford get the
positions. Feels they would be more protective of Sanford. Deputy Police Chief Whitmire
responds there is a collective bargaining contract that states the officers must live within 30
minutes driving times of the police department. Officers are encouraged to relocate to the City.
Commr Lessard had a strong push to make all City employees reside in Sanford, but was
ineffective.
Mr. Carpenter mentioned a situation of an acquaintance cell phone that was stolen and use by a
drug dealer who charged the phone to a large amount. Says he was advised my officers
nothing could be done. Cmdr Bronson advised he could assist Mr. Carpenter.
Mr. Huber will have a neighborhood crime watch night at his home May 14. The SMART trailer
will be set up at the location. Mr. Carpenter with neighborhood crime watch will be at McKibbin
Park June 28, 6:30 PM. Mrs. Campbell advise the "NO PARKING" signs are still up in Academy
Manor. Police Chief Dillard advised he put in a request for removal. Mrs. Campbell mentioned
the Recreation Department should notify the police department when a big activity will be held at
the park. Streets need to be clear for emergency situations.
Mrs. Kuhn ask who designate parking time downtown? Police Chief Dillard responds the City
Commission /City Ordinance.
Mr. Brown state the deputies are visible, but some of the deputies have bad attitudes. Feels for
law enforcement officers. Mr. Carpenter, it's tough. Mrs. Kuhn, law enforcement is the most
criticized profession.
Re the "POLICE" video, Rev. Scott suggest members view the video on their personal time, then
relay their views. Mrs. Kuhn state the video should be able to answer a lot of community
policing questions.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 8:05 PM.