HomeMy WebLinkAbout09.21.00City of Sanford Planning and Zoning Commission
Regularly Scheduled Meetine
7:00 P.M.
Thursday, September 21, 2000
City Commission Chambers, City Hall, Sanford, Florida
AGENDA
1 . Hold a Public Hearing to consider ar request for a Conditional use for property located at 2719
Orlando Drive in a GC -2, General Commercial Zoning District, for the purpose of a recycling
collection station.
Tax Parcel Number: 1-2 - - '1 - 0000 - C A
Property Owner: Sadique Jaffer
Representative: R. Casey McKnight
2 . Density Calculations.
3 . Minutes
4 . Any other business from floor or Commission Members
5 . Reports from Staff.
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7:00 P.M.
CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS
CITY HALL, SANF RD. FLORIDA
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Ross Robert
Carol Dennison
Kevin Hipes
Bobby VonHerbulis
Otto Garrett
Andrew Kutz
James Valerino
M EMBERS ABSENT
Michael }t - excused.
Timothy Hudson
OTHERS PRESENT:
Tay M rder, Director of Engineering and Planning
Antonia Gerli, Senior Planner
Marion Anderson, Recording Secretary
Mr. Vlerino called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
The first item on the Agenda was to hold a Public Hearing to
consider a request for at Conditional Use for property located at
2719 Orlando Drive in a GC-2, General Commercial Zoning District,
for the purpose of a rec collection station.
Casey McKnight, 1001 S. Alexander Road, Plant City, and Keith
Henderson, buyer, were present. Ms. Gerli stated that the
original Staff report was written prior to the Code Enforcement
meeting of September 12 Since that was written, the applicant
went to the Code Enforcement Board meeting and provided evidence
that the former Land Development Manager had authorized this use.
The Code Enforcement Board gave the applicant approval to
continue the use until the Planning and Zoning Commission decides
on this or until they appeal your decision. Although Staff feels
it is an inappropriate use for the 17-92 Corridor, it does feel
that the applicant has a justification to continue the use.
Staff has conditions for the continued use: the trailers have to
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meet all setbacks and buffer requirements, the access
requirement, the sign requirements, the landscaping and parking
requirements. In addition they would need to install irrigation
in the front buffer of the parcel. She stated that staff has
heard of information that the property owner has bought the
shopping center next door, so Staff would like for him to install
irrigation across the front of both of these properties and the
City will landscape the right-of -way.
Mr. Kutz asked the applicant if he has given any consideration to
the enhancement of the appearance. Mr. McKnight stated that the
site plan that he submitted with the Conditional Use shows at
different layout along with some landscaping. The trailers are
rotated every week, 5 to t ri 1 rs' per month. Mr. Kutz asked
about an enclosure that the trailers could slide into. Mr.
McKnight stated that on the site plan it shows that they will
relocate back inside the fenced area, approximately 70 to t off
of the road. The area that is presently being used will be used
as at drive around .
Mr. V nH rbulis stated that this is a major gateway into this
community. This needs to be softened or push off of the road.
Not only landscaped up around the trailers but do some
landscaping at the sidewalk level. We need to make it more
presentable than what it is today.
Ashok Shony, owner of Pinrst shopping Center, stated that they
are in negotiation with a gas station that would like to buy his
property. Mr. Sh ny stated that this is absolutely an eyesore,
it is like a junkyard. There are no bathrooms. People sleep in
the back of the trailers. Broken bottles and cans are always on
his property. People come to this location and sit all day and
drink. Having a neighbor like this depreciates the value of his
property.
Mr. VonHerbulis asked Mr. Shony if he had considered putting in a
privacy fence so that he or his tenants don { t see this junkyard.
Mr. Shony asked how would this remove the eyesore and stated that
even with the fence it could still be seen from 17-92.
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Mr. Kutz stated that this is a huge lot and it is a jungle. There
is a chain link fence right on the corridor. The City wouldn't
allow a building without toilet facilities and a new temporary
building wouldn't be allowed at all. Mr. VonHerbulis stated that
if someone is conducting business, they would need to have some
type facilities. Mr. Marder stated that Staff will take a look
at this.
Mr~. McKnight passed around a survey that shows the way the
property is proposed to be rearranged. It shows that it will not
have any conflict with Mr. property. He stated that they
will try to buffer their operation by moving 70 to 80 off of the
road. Dollar -wise, they add a lot to the community.
Mr. Robert stated that he is in favor and that Staff recommends
that the applicant jump through quite a few hoops. They have
indicated that they are not real happy to jump through and meet
all of the setbacks and have big questions with the access, the
landscaping, the buffering and the parking requirements. Mr.
Robert stated that he has faith in the Staff working with the
applicant to end up with a product that is quite a hit better
than it is now. He made a motion for approval per all of Staff's
write -ups, 1 through 4, and in addition require port - -lets, as
in a temporary construction, be on-site, in addition to the other
conditions of Staff. Seconded by Mr. V nHerbulis for discussion.
Mr. Valerino stated that he can sympathize with them but 5 years
is too long for a temporary period to give them time to relocate.
His preference would be to dive them 6 months, not make them do
anything for the next 6 months, and when they core back in
months, we will find out what they did to relocate and if they
make no effort to relocate or to look for a place to relocate,
them deny the request. Mr. Robert stated that he likes Mr.
Valerino's way of thinking on this. He thought the 5 years were
great to find a place to relocate, and what Mr. Valerino had said
is much more reasonable and withdrew his motion. Mr. VonHerbulis
stated that 6 months is a tough tieframe to find a piece of land
that meets the zoning. He stated that he is not opposed to a
month situation where they have to come back, tell us what they
have done to try and find somewhere to relocate and readdress the
issue at that point. Mr. Robert withdrew his motion. Mr.
onHerbulis withdrew his second.
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Mr. Robert moved to recommend temporary approval for a maximum
period of 6 months of conditional use with the following
conditions that after 6 months, the applicant come back and
explain their progress in finding a new site to relocate to that
might be more acceptable and at that time, after 6 months, we
will revisit all of Staff's items and that they do have 1 port-o-
potty port-
-potty for the use of not only the employees but for their
customers. seconded by r. VonHerbulis for discussion. Mr.
Garrett stated that he has at problem with the p rt- - potties
because it will give the vagrants a place to sleep. Mr.
V nH rbulis asked if they have to come back and apply for an
additional conditional use application, and pay the fee. Mr.
Valerino stated that this was not his intention. Mr. Mard r
explained that the Commission could say that the applicant would
need to return to the Planning and Zoning Commission in March of
2001 to provide progress, and that the progress would have to be
satisfactory with the Planning and Zoning Commission in order to
continue the use or relocate. Mr. Robert stated that this is
what he wants, in March of 2001 to provide the Planning and
Zoning Commission with the progress that would be satisfactory s
that it might be continued. Mr. VnHsrbulis seconded. Mr. Kautz
opposed. All others in favor. Motion carried.
Next on the Agenda were density calculations. Mr. Mardsr
explained t pia t the Chairman wanted to defer this but it is up to
the Commission. Mr. Kutz stated that this is a tremendous
instrument, tool, to study, to help us in moving forward. Staff
has done a great job. The writs -up is good.
Mr. VnHsrbulis moved to table the density calculations.
Seconded by s . Dennison. All in favor. Mot ion carried.
Mr. V nHsrbulis moved to approve the Minutes as circulated.
Seconded by Mr. Robert. All in favor. Motion carried.
Mr. Kutz stated that he had called the City of Savannah and asked
how they clot their city so successful. He stated that that City
did not use outside consultants, that they did the planning for
Savannah with in -house personnel. In their success they have had
some significant problems. Next year they are entering into
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master plan activity in order to resolve some parking problems,
infrastructure and traffic problems. As part of their new
overall master plan for their downtown area, a corridor plan will
be accomplished whereby they will reassess all traffic in the
community and establish a primary corridor. They said that had
this been done as a part of the master plan they probably could
have avoided this problem. They did tell Mr. Kutz about two
other communities, Columbus, Ga., and Buford, S.C. that had been
very successful that are also waterfront properties. He stated
that he also heard about Macon, Ga. that was done about two years
ago that is pretty successful. One of our Commissioners is very
fond of D lr y Beach. Some communities are now beginning to hire
consultants in order to be able to get development coordinated up
front so they wind up with Savannah type character but eliminate
the problems.
Mr. Marder stated that Staff has been listening to concerns about
the state of the City, in planning, etc. and that Staff has
accomplished a lot in the last round of comprehensive planning.
In 1993 the City started planning again. It got together a group
of people who represented the historic areas, the downtown
business/waterfront etc. They came up with a vision type plan
which led to the formation of the Waterfront Master Plan Steering
Committee. Several different efforts took place after this. A
group of students did some really detailed planning of different
alternatives, different waterfront type scenarios, phys i al
models of buildings. This eventually led to a master plan. This
plan was not intended to shover the use of every individual
property. It was more intended to show that there could be
realistic uses. An extensive report was also done by the
students and it all came together and was put into a
redevelopment plan that was adopted by the City. It shovers how
things could work, how land uses could fit into the downtown, and
how things could be used.
Mr. Marder stated that a landscape consultant came in and did a
plan for the lierwalk that is fairly detailed. We did the
ivrwalk Plan, a visioning Plan, and Economic Restructurin
Plan, etc. We pulled all of these plans together and Herbert-
Halback did a concept, looking at focal points. They also did a
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complete real estate Market analysis of the Sanford area and
Seminole County. They looked at all of the opportunity sites
that we have in the downtown area, all along the entire
waterfront, that shows the different types of land uses, acreage,
and parcels that could be used. There is a redevelopment plan
for 1 -2, the Mall, the downtown area, plus there are two master
plan redevelopment r j is going n in the Georgetown and
Goldsboro areas. We are working with the County to do plains for
Celery Avenue and the Silver Lake area.
There being no further bus in s , the meeting adjourned at : 5PM .
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