HomeMy WebLinkAbout04.20.00C ity of Sai,,, rd Planning and Zoning C nmission
Regularly Scheduled Meetine
7:00 P.M.
Thursday, APRIL 20, 2000
City Commission Chambers, City Hall, Sanford, Florida
AGENDA
1.A Hold a Public Hearing to consider a Planned Development Rezone amending the PD Master Plan for Sterling
Woods (per Ordinance No. 3334 approved on April 28, 1997) establishing a 10 foot minimum rear yard building
setback requirement for screened porches.
Tax Parcel No: 10- 20 -30- 511- 0000 -0000
Representative: Thomas H. Greenawalt, Maronda Homes
1.13 Hold a Public Hearing to consider a Planned Development Rezone amending the Master Plan for Monterey
Oaks (approved on August 10, 1998) establishing a 10 foot minimum rear yard building setback requirement for
screened porches.
Tax Parcel No: 33- 19 -30- 517 - 0000 -0000
Representative: Thomas H. Greenawalt, Maronda Homes
1.0 Hold a Public Hearing to consider a Conditional Use request to amend the Preliminary Subdivision Plan for
Placid Woods, Phase II (approved on May 8, 1995) reducing the rear yard building setback requirement for
screened porches from 15 feet to 7.5 feet.
Tax Parcel No: 02- 20- 30- 520 - 0000 -0000
Representative: Thomas H. Greenawalt, Maronda Homes
1.D Hold a Public Hearing to consider a Conditional Use request to amend the Preliminary Subdivision Plan for
Placid Woods, Phase III (approved on June 4, 1998) reducing the rear yard setback requirement for screened
porches from 15 feet to 7.5 feet.
Tax Parcel No: 02- 20- 30- 520 - 0000 -0000
Representative: Thomas H. Greenawalt, Maronda Homes
2. Hold a Public Hearing to consider a Conditional Use request for the purpose of additional boat parking for
property located at 101 Commerce Way in a R1 -1, Restricted Industrial Zoning District.
Tax Parcel No: 35- 19- 30- 524 - 0000 -0230
Property Owner: Holox Ltd.
Representative: Bob Campbell
3. Hold a Public Hearing to consider a Conditional Use request for installation of telecommunication antennas and
ground equipment on an existing electric transmission structure for property located at 1080 Rinehart Road in a
PD, Planned Development Zoning District.
Tax Parcel No: 29- 19- 30 -5LW -1600 -0000
Property Owner: Sanford Investors Florida General Partnership
Representative: Ulay Thompson, Florida Power Corporation
4. Hold a Public Hearing to consider a Conditional Use request for a church addition - expansion of non - conforming
use for property located at 813 Pine Avenue in a SR -1, Single Family Dwelling Residential Zoning District.
Tax Parcel No: 25- 19- 30 -5AG -1000 -0060
Owner: St. Paul Missionary Baptist Church, Inc.
Representative: Pastor Albert L. Covington
5. Minutes.
6. Any other business from floor or Commission Members
7. Reports from Staff.
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7:00 P.M.
CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS
CITY HALL, SANFORD, FLORIDA
MEMBERS PRESENT:
James Valerino
Ross Robert
Otto Garrett
Carol Dennison
Bobby VonHerbulis
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Kevin Hipes - excused
Michael Skat
Andrew Kutz
Timothy Hudson
OTHERS PRESENT:
Russ Gibson -Land Development Manager
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
There were moments of silence for Mr. McClanahan.
The first item on the Agenda was the consideration of a Planned
Development Rezone amending the PD Master Plan for Sterling Woods
(per ordinance No. 3334 approved on April 28, 1997) establishing
a 10 foot minimum rear yard building setback requirement for
screened porches.
Jim McNeil, Holland & Knight Law Firm, 200 S. Orange Avenue,
Orlando, and Tom Greenawalt, Vice President of Maronda Homes,
1101 Keller Rd., Maitland, were present. Mr. McNeil stated that
their request is to bring some clarification to the approved
plans for the developments so that it is clear that if there is a
porch on the back of the house, there can be screening and it
won't be affected by the normal setback. They are not asking to
change the setback with respect to the house itself, but are
talking about a permitted porch.
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Mr. VonHerbulis stated that any type of structural support is
under the building setbacks. whether it's a porch, a front
entrance, a garage, has a screen or not, it's a part of the
building setback. His concern is that if there is a 20' rear
yard setback, and a porch can be built with the same roof line,
then it becomes a part of the city's responsibility to make sure
that the homeowner does not put glass in and a window air
conditioner. Living area would be added within 10' of the
property.
Mr. McNeil stated that there would be the same situation where
there are screened or unscreened porches. There would always be
that concern. The attempt here today is to come up with
something that works. Something that clarifies the situation and
gives predictability to Maronda and to meet everybody's goal.
Mr. VonHerbulis stated that he remembers Maronda asking for a
variance on putting sidewalks on both sides of the street because
the drainage calculations in the subdivision didn't accommodate
enough square footage for the placement of sidewalks on both
sides of the road. To his recollection there wasn't any porches
on any of the approved plans. He asked if Engineering looked at
this to see if the porches were on the back and that this does
meet the criteria.
Mr. Gibson stated that this issue has been considered by Staff.
The one specific subdivision that pretty much has a maximum
building area designed for the individual lots is Placid Woods,
Phase III. All will be monitored by the City.
Ms. Dennison asked how would water be contained on the lots for
the runoff from the hip roof towards the back. If there is only
5' for drainage in the rear, it is not a lot to contain the water
on the lot, it will run onto the neighbors.
Mr. Greenawalt stated that there is a master plan on the drainage
for the entire community. Mr. McNeil stated that it gets back to
the approved engineering plans. He doesn't think it will be a
problem if the approved engineering plans were calculated
correctly. Mr. Greenawalt stated that what is being eliminated
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is the utility easement in the rear. There are still drainage
easements in the back exactly for this reason.
Ron Rinehart, owner of 104 Garden court that lives at 850 Lake
Como Drive in the Hills of Lake Mary, was present to speak in
opposition to the request. He stated that the setbacks have
already been exceeded, and now the porches will be 10 -feet from
the property lines. The reason the 20 feet is in there is so
that the noise, etc. does not impede on the neighbor behind them.
He stated that the applicant has basically already said we have
gone inside the limit but now lets make it o -k by screening the
porches when originally they couldn't screen the porches. one
rule has been broken.
Connie Bylando, 315 Placid Lake Drive, stated that her home was
built as a spec home and even if the setbacks were decreased to
7.5 she only has 5.1' in the rear of her property. She asked
how could this happen.
John, who lives on North Court, just south of Monterey oaks,
stated that the problem is that the 10 easement is suppose to be
a Swale. More water will be settling on the properties. If
porches are put in with roofs, those roofs will create more water
because of the pitch.
Jesse King, 114 Broadarrow Place, Placid Woods Phase 1, asked
that since the porches are there with screening, could someone
build onto that. Mr. Gibson stated "yes ", they would have to
meet all other development criteria. There could be a
stipulation of the approval that no other improvements be allowed
beyond the 7.5 Mr. VonHerbulis explained that Placid Woods
Phase III has a note per the City of Sanford that the allowable
and pervious area is 2321 square feet. The total area covered
including the patio is 2306. There will be 15 square feet
additional, 3 that a particular structure could ever be added
to the property and still be conforming.
Tina McClory, 122 Brushcreek Drive, speaking on Monterey oaks,
stated that her biggest concern is the noise factor. She asked
what is the average family size of the Monterey Homes.
Debra ?, in favor of the request, stated that her In -laws own Lot
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84 in Placid Woods, and that her father -in -law will need the
screened in porch because of his disability.
Belinda Maddox, 350 Upsala Road, stated that the rear of her
property adjoins Monterey oaks. Monterey Oaks should be
responsible if their neighbors flood. If the developers need to
buy out properties, then they should buy them out.
Stephanie King, 114 Broadarrow Place, asked if this request
included Placid Woods Phase 1 because some of these homes border
on the same retention pond that part of Phase 1 does. Some of
the homes in Phase 3 will border her property.
Kevin Maddox, 350 Upsala Road, compared the requests for
reductions in rear yard setbacks to similar situations in
Mississippi.
Jim McNeil stated that they could not address every concern that
the homeowners have tonight.
Mr. Gibson requested that the commission recommend to the City
Commission that the wall issue for Monterey oaks be included in
the PD Master Plan so that the fence issue can be resolved in and
of itself.
Tammy Husky, Lot 57 Sterling Woods, stated that she is in favor
of the request because she wants a home that she can enjoy. The
plans for her home were submitted to the City but was not
approved because of encroachment onto that setback. Her lot
backs up to a wooden or conservation area.
Linda Cordoni, 141 Brushcreek Drive, north of Monterey.Oaks Phase
2, spoke in opposition. She stated that there will be some
problems with drainage and that she is also concerned about the
noise level. She stated that she is concerned with the liability
and trustworthiness of Maronda Homes. Mr. Cordoni stated that he
hopes the setbacks are kept at 20' so as not to look like Chicago
or New York.
Mr. Robert moved to approve the rezone for Sterling Woods and
amend the Master Plan to establish the 10 minimum rear yard
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building setback requirements for screened porches with the
following stipulations: 1. No vertical construction will be
allowed within any utility or drainage easement; 2. The
modification of these setbacks in no way allows additional
impervious area on the lots greater than that originally
permitted in the original approved drainage plan; 3. Any and all
other development shall be in accordance with the Sterling Woods
Master Plan as it was approved April 28, 1997. Seconded by Mr.
VonHerbulis for discussion.
Mr. VonHerbulis stated that he had heard the items brought
forward by the citizens and unfortunately a lot of these issues
are issues that are related to the request and some had to do
with the fact that these are small lots. He requested that Mr.
Robert include in his recommendation an additional "gotcha"
caveat to the City Commission that these are the problems you run
into when you approve 50' lot subdivisions and to also add that
any other new subdivisions that are brought forth that the
setbacks that we put into place will include back porches,
screened or unscreened. Mr. Robert felt that the requests are
entirely appropriate and included the request into his motion.
Mr. Valerino stated that there were a lot of good points
presented by the people who spoke in opposition although a lot of
the points raised were not directly related to the issues at
hand, he felt those were things that needed to be discussed. The
main reason he is inclined to vote for this particular motion is
that as it stands now they are allowed to have a roof on the back
porch. The issue is is if they can put screen around what they
are already allowed to have.
All in favor of the motion. Motion carried.
The next item considered was to hold a Public Hearing to consider
a request for a Planned Development Rezone amending the Master
Plan for Monterey oaks (approved on August 10, 1998) establishing
a 10 -foot minimum rear yard building setback requirement for
screened porches.
Mr. Robert moved to approve in addition to the previous
stipulations, screened porches only, a 6' wood privacy fence or
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similar barrier, approximately 264 linear feet along the eastern
property line between the single family residential property
owners, in particular 350 Upsala Road, and the southerly property
line, and all developments be in accordance with Monterey Oaks
Master Plan as approved August 10, 1998 with the proviso that the
impervious area not exceed what is allowed, no matter what.
Seconded by Mr. VonHerbulis.
Mr. VonHerbulis stated that he had a concern with the swale on
the southerly portion affecting Garden court. If the porches
will hinder the swale on the portion that.abuts Garden Court,
that the porches not be allowed on that section so that the swale
can be properly constructed and maintained. Mr. Robert stated
that we would like to suggest that the Building Department hold
the builder or developers feet to the fire to straighten out the
drainage problem. Mr. VonHerbulis suggested that porches not be
built on that section because there will be 11' to construct a
Swale completely on their property line. Mr. Robert stated that
if the developer can't satisfy the Engineer, then porches should
not be built on that section. Mr. Robert included this into his
motion. Mr. VonHerbulis seconded the motion with his suggestion.
Ms. Dennison in opposition to the motion. All others in favor.
Motion carried.
The next item considered was a request for a conditional Use to
amend the Preliminary Subdivision Plan for Placid Woods, Phase 11
(approved May 8, 1995) reducing the rear yard building setback
requirement for screened porches from 15 feet to 7.5 f eet .
Mr. Robert moved for approval of the Conditional Use for Placid
Woods Phase II, to amend the Preliminary Subdivision Plan to
reduce the minimum rear yard building setback for screened `
porches fro 15' to 7.5' with the following stipulations; 1) No
vertical construction allowed within any utility or drainage
easement; 2) The modifications of these setbacks in no way allows
additional impervious area on the lots greater than originally
permitted with the approved drainage plan; 3) All other
development shall be in accordance with Placid Woods Preliminary
Subdivision Plan as approved May 8, 1995; 4) make sure that the
City Commission knows. Seconded by Mr. VonHerbulis. All in
favor. Motion carried.
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The next item was the consideration of a Conditional Use request
to amend the Preliminary Subdivision Plan for Placid Woods, Phase
III (approved June 4, 1998) reducing the rear yard setback
requirement for screened porches from 15' to 7.5'
Mr. Robert moved to send to the City Commission approval of the
Conditional Use for Placid Woods, Phase 111 that amends the
Preliminary Subdivision Plan to reduce the minimum rear yard
building setbacks for screened porches from 15' to 7.5' with the
following stipulations: 1) No vertical construction allowed
within any utility or drainage easements; 2) The modifications of
these setbacks in no way allows additional impervious areas on
the lots greater than that originally permitted with the approved
drainage plan; 3) All other development shall be in accordance
with the Placid Woods Preliminary Subdivision Plan as approved
June 4, 1998; 4) and make sure that the City Commission knows.
Seconded by Mr. VonHerbulis. All in favor. Motion carried.
Next on the Agenda was the consideration of a Conditional use
request for the purpose of additional boat parking for property
located at 101 Commerce Way in a RI -1, Restricted Industrial
Zoning District.
Mr. VonHerbulis disclosed that he had conversations with Mr.
Campbell regarding this item.
Bob Campbell, 100 Commerce Way, stated that he sells new boats.
The business has grown and he needs more space. He would like to
put up a fence to protect the boats that he intends to park
there.
Mr. Gibson stated that he did authorize the issuance of a permit
for the chain link fence provided it met the current setbacks.
He has seen the current fence and has no objection to where it
is. He would prefer to see the front part of the fence vinyl
coated, however, the required landscaping would augment the
appearance of the fence.
Mr. Campbell is in total agreement with the landscaping
requirements and he would like to make it as attractive as
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possible. He asked that he be allowed not to have to put in the
vinyl coated fence. This would be an expensive process.
Mr. Garrett moved for approval based on Staff's recommendations.
Seconded by Mr. Robert for discussion. Mr. Robert asked if Mr.
Garrett could modify his motion to let the applicant have what he
has there now. Mr. Garrett agreed. All in favor. Motion
carried.
The next item was consideration of a Conditional Use for the
installation for telecommunications antennas and ground equipment
on an existing electric transmission structure for property
located at 1080 Rinehart Road in a PD, Planned Development Zoning
District.
Ulay Thompson, Florida Power Corp., 2600 Lake Lucien Drive,
Maitland, was present. He stated that the poles would be lowered
to 140' from 195
Ms. Dennison moved to approve as stipulated by Staff. Seconded
by Mr. VonHerbulis. All in favor. Motion carried.
The next item on the Agenda was the consideration of a
Conditional Use request for a church addition - expansion of non-
conforming use for property located at 813 Pine Avenue in a SR -1,
Single Family Dwelling Residential Zoning District.
Dick Evans, 2701 Bungalow Blvd., Chairman of the Board of
Trustees at St. Paul Baptist Church, represented this request.
He stated that their current Sanctuary can accommodate 200 - 250
people. Their Fellowship Hall can accommodate approximately 50
to 75 people. St. Paul would like to build a new fellowship hall
to accommodate the Church offices, classrooms, bathrooms and
fellowship space.
Mr. Gibson explained that the property owner to the east of this
site along 9 th Street, Ms. Altermese Bentley, has expressed to
City Staff her reservations on having the utilization of the
property to the north of her used for parking.
Dorothy Curry, 2203 W. 13 th St., requested highly that this be
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approved because this church started 40 years ago and was never
completed.
Altermese Bentley, 612 E. 9 th Street, stated that she is a member
of this church. She owns the property next to the vacant lot of
St. Paul, to the north. She does not want to see a parking lot
next to her.
Mr. Robert with the proviso of Staff working with Ms. Bentley
during site plan review, moved for approval per Staff's
recommendations. Seconded by Ms. Dennison. All in favor.
Motion carried.
Mr. Robert moved to approve the Minutes as circulated. Seconded
by Ms. Dennison. All in favor. Motion carried.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 10:45
P.M.
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J s Valerino, .Chairman