HomeMy WebLinkAbout08.20.92FROM THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CQORDINATOR
August 13 , 1992
TOO Planning and Zoning Commission
SUBJECT: Regularly Scheduled Meeting of the Planning and Zoning Co ssion,
7:00 P.M., Thursday, August 20, 1992, in the City Commission
Chambers, City Hall, Sanford, Florida
AGENDA
1. Hold a Public Dearing to consider a request to Rezone zone from RC-1, Restricted
Commercial, to C -, General Commercial, property located at 2590 Sanford
Avenue.
Owner/ representative: Virgil L. Gracey
TABLED: 8/6/92
2. Hold a Public Hearing to consider a request for a Conditional Use in a G C-- 2 ,
General Commercial Zoning District, for property located at 2544 Park Drive
for alcoholic beverage consumption on premises, Class V.
Owner: The Party Machine
Representative: Thelma L. Mungen
Any other business from floor or Commission Members.
4. Reports from Staff.
5. Approval of Minutes. A.-
ADVICE TO THE PUBLIC C. If a person decides to appeal a decision made with respect
to any matter considered at the above meeting or hearing, he may need a verbatim
record of the proceedings including the testimony and evidence, which record is not
provided by the City of Sanford. (FS 286.0105 .
PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES NEEDING ASSISTANCE TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY OF
THESE PROCEEDINGS SHOULD CONTACT THE PERSONNEL OFFICE ADA
COORDINATOR T 330 -5626 48 HOURS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING.
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7:00 P.M.
CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS
MEMHERS PRESENT:
Joe Dennison
Ben Dyal
Helen Stairs
Mike Davis
J. Brooks
Leon Brooks
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Cathryn welch
Tom Speer
John LeRoy
OT M RS PRESENT:
Jay Marder, Director of Planning and Development
Marion Anderson, Recording Secretary
Chairman Dennison called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
The first item on the Agenda was to hold a Public Hearing to
consider a request to Rezone from RC -1, Restricted Commercial, to
GC -2, General Commercial, property located at 2590 Sanford Avenue.
Owner /representative: Virgil L. Gracey. Tabled: 8/6/92.
There was no one in the audience in favor of or in opposition to
the request.
Mr. Marder stated that the City Commission is scheduled to consider
this request on Monday. He noted that there wasn't anything of
particular importance that required someone to be here for the
Commission to make a recommendation.
Chairman Dennison stated that he prefered to have someone here at
least for representation of the request.
Mr. Marder stated that the applicant had difficulty before in
attending the meeting.
Mr. Dyal moved to remove from the table. Seconded by Mr. J.
Brooks. All in favor. Motion carried.
Mr. Dyal moved to deny the request based on Staff's recommendations
of the site's characteristics and vehicular movement. Seconded by
Mrs. Stairs. Five in favor. Mr. Davis opposed. Motion carried.
The next item on the Agenda was to hold a Public Hearing to
consider a request for a Conditional Use in a GC -2, General
Commercial Zoning District, for property located at 2544 Park Drive
for alcoholic beverage consumption on premises, Class V. owner:
The Party Machine; representative: Thelma L. Mungen.
Mr. Marder read into the record a letter a letter from Mr. John E.
Butler, co -owner of The Party Machine, requesting that the
Commission not consider the request because he was not informed of
this request until all paperwork had been filed with the
Engineering Department, as a law enforcement officer this type of
request in in conflict with his positon as a Deputy Sheriff and
also the concept of this nightclub was to establish a non - alcoholic
establishment for teenagers.
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Mr. Fred Mungen, 561 Fuller Ave., Deltona, was present for
representation of the Conditional Use request. He stated that this
establishment is presently a teen club, but that he would like to
serge alcoholic beverages 'several nights during the week,
preferably Wednesdays and Saturdays. Mr. Mungen stated they have
approval from the Health Department for a restaurant. There is a
kitchen but it is not fully equipped at this time.
Mr. Mungen stated that this will still be a teen club. The only
night teens probably will come out is on Friday nights. He stated
that he needs to do other things to stay in business. He plans on
designating a specific night for teens.
Mr. Dyal asked Mr. Mungen if he is an owner and who is John Sutler.
Mr. Mungen stated that he is a co- owner, at the present time, and
that John Butler is his partner. Mr. Mungen noted that the
partnership is in the process of being dissolved.
Mr. Dyal asked Mr. Mungen if he is aware that Mr. Butler has asked
the Commission to table the request at the present time. Mr.
Mungen stated that he was informed of this.
Mr. Davis asked what is Class V. Mr. Marder stated that Class. V is
the sale of beer and wine for consumption on premises with no hard
liquor involved.
Mr. L. Brooks asked. Mr. Mungen if he understands the Class V
definition. Mr. Mungen stated that he would like to sell just beer
and wine.
Mr. Davis asked who would set the time if this request is approved
and stated that beer and wine could be served 7 days a week.
Mrs. Stairs asked Mr. Mungen if he knew that he would be able to
serge beer and wine at anytime if he got the license. Mr. Mungen
explained that he was interested only in serving beer and wine on
specific nights of the week and that it would not be consist of the
entire week.
Mr. Marder stated that as a point of clarification, the Commission
has the ability to place conditions on a Conditional Use approval
including time limitations.
Mr. Dennison asked Mr. Mungen if he would you like to place time
limitations on the request himself. Mr. Mungen stated that he
would like to sell alcohol on Wedensday and Saturday nights, and
also during the week from 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m.
Edward Charles, 2003 Summerlin Ave., was present and in favor of
the request. He stated that there are not any nice clubs in
Sanford. He noted that he has friends that have to drive to
International Drive to have the priviledge of drinking. He feels
that this is a good idea for The Party Machine.
Johnell Jackson, 1825 Blackstone Ave., was present and in favor of
the request. He tried to assure the Commission that by changing
the club to an adult club that serves alcohol, there would not be
any disturbances. He stated that he has done a lot of work with
the Sheriff's Department to control problems in other areas and
felt good about this area and that he did not foresee any problems
at this location. He stated that this club would be very well
managed by security.
William Baskem, owner of Park Avenue Mobile Horne Park, 104 Pine
Valley Ct . , Debary, stated that he admired the gentlemen for having
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a club for teens but that there has a�ways been a problem with
people who drink. Mr. Baskem stated that it is not necessary for
liquor to be served on the premises. It is not a service to the
community.
Valerie Brown, School of Dance Arts, 600 E. 20th St., was present
and in opposition. She stated that the dance school has been at
the same location for 22 years. She is opposed to the sale of wine
and beer. The greater majority of dancers at her school are young
children. The teen club is a wonderful idea and it is a bad idea
to take the teen club and turn it into what can only turn into a
bar.
Miriam Docktor, co -owner of the School of Dance Arts, 2560 Elm
Ave., stated that she had a conversation with Mr. John Butler
before he opened the teen club. She stated that Mr. Butler had
made it perfectly clear, at that time, that it would remain a teen
club. She is completely opposed to the idea that this location
would open as a bar again. Ms. Docktor stated that she has watched
at least 10 bars come and go and there has always been a problem
with the police being called and having to come out. She stated
that dance classes are taught after the children arle out of school
from 3:00 to 10:00 and that some children sees what ;goes on at this
location.
Joyce Riggins, present on behalf of Mr. John Butler, stated that
Mr. Butler is co -owner of The Party Machine. She stated that he
is stongly opposed to this request. At the present time, the
owners are going through a partnership dissolution. She stated
that Mr. Butler is requesting that the Commission not consider this
request until their situation is cleaned up. In his present job,
as a Deputy Sheriff, the sale of beer and wine is a conflict. Ms.
Riggins asked the Commission to waive their consideration of the
Conditional Use until the owners have had a chance to take care of
their personal matters because Mr. Butler is on the lease, and as
a Deputy Sheriff, he cannot be affiliated with alcoholic beverages.
Mr. Brooks stated that it may be better to table this request until
the partnership is dissolved because of the conflict that it is
bringing about at this particular time.
Mr. Mungen stated that Mr. Butler informed him today that he would
no longer be a partner after Saturday.
Mr. Dennison stated that Mr. Mungen has made this request and the
co -owner has submitted a letter stating that he does not want to be
a party to this. Mr. Dennison stated that the Commission was told
that this would be a teen club and would stay as a teen club. He
stated that there are two different things going on here.
Mr. Munger stated that this would remain a teen club with alcoholic
beverages being sold on specific nights.
Mr. Brooks asked if this item was tabled would M r. Mungen have to
pay another filing fee. Mr. Marder stated that this is true.
Mr. Davis asked if it is the responsibility of the Commission to
decide the business dealings between the two owners. Mr. Davis
stated that Mr. Mungen is a partner and that he has a right to make
this request. Mr. Dennison agreed that a request was made to the
Zoning Board and that the Commission has to act on the request.
Mr. J. Brooks stated that it would make things much simpler and
easier if Mr. Mungen could come before the Commission without any
opposition from a partner.
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Mr. Dyal asked Mr. Mungen if he wanted this handled tonight or
if he would like to wait until his partnership is cleared up.
Mr. Mungen stated that he wanted the Commission to handle it
tonight.
Mr. Davis made a motion to approve this request. Seconded by Mr.
L. Brooks. Mr. Dyal asked if there are any conditions being placed
on the motion. Mr. Davis stated 'ono ". Mr. L. Brooks, Mr. J.
Brooks, and Mr. Davis in favor of the motion. Opposed were Mr.
Dennison, Mr. Dyal, and Mrs. Stairs. Motion failed for lack of
majority.
Mr. Brooks stated that Mr. Mungen can appeal this but suggested
that he clear up his personal life first.
Mr. Johnell Jackson reiterated that the sale of wine and beer would
not effect the area at all and that it would not cause
disturbances.
Mrs. stairs moved to approve the Minutes as circulated. Mr. Dyal
seconded. All in favor. Motion carried.
Mr. Dennison informed the Commission of a Citizens Advisory
Workshop to be held on the 3rd of October, put on by University of
Central Florida, and recommended that each Commissioner consider
attending.
Mr. Dennison suggested that the Commission funnel their questions
through him so that he could keep a better handle on things.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at $:50 F.M.
Joe Dennison. Chairman