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Planning and Zoning Comni.ssion
Meeting of November 17, 1988
7:00 P.M.
City Commission Chambers
Members Present
Brent Carli
John Morris
Tay Speer
Gary Davidson
Eddie Keith
Leon Brooks
Jay Malone
Members Absent:
Joe Dennison
John LeRoy
Others Present:
Jay Marder, City Planner
Bettie Sonnenberg, Zoning and Arbor Inspector
Bill Simmons, Director of Engineering and Planning
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chairman Carli.
The first item on the agenda was a Public Hearing to consider an ordinance of the City
of Sanford, Florida, said ordinance being the Land Development Regulations of said
City.
Mr. Marder stated that we have been working on the Land Development Regulations for a
little over a year and passed out a list of all the people who have received copies of
this material.
Mr. Julian Stenstrom stated that he was representing Stenstram Realty and that they are
in favor of the ordinance.
Mr. Morris moved to recommend adoption of the Ordinance to the City Commission.
Seconded by Mr. Davidson. All in favor. Motion carried.
The next item on the agenda was a Public Hearing to consider a request to rezone from
SR1 -A to that of RC -1 for an accounting office and residential properties located as
2464, 2466, 2468, 2470 and 2472 Sanford Avenue. Owners /representatives: Anderson,
Nimmo, Sumner, McKinnon, Piloian, Davis and Harper.
Mr. Bob Howard, New Smyrna Beach, stated that although it will be an accounting office
it will still be in keeping with the residential character of surrounding buildings and
landscape.
Ms. Luana Kish stated that she is in favor of the rezoning and asked that the
Commission approve it.
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Mr. Keith made a motion to approve. Mr. Morris seconded. Mr. Keith stated that Don
Smith, owner of the adjacent sporting goods store, said he is in favor of the rezoning.
All in favor. Motion carried.
The next item on the agenda was a Public Hearing to consider the conditional use for
property located at 200 N. Elm Avenue for the purpose of a restaurant with alcoholic
beverages with consumption on premises in a SC -3 zone. Owner: Irving Feinberg; repre-
sentative: Darryl A. Barrs.
Mr. Darryl A. Barrs, 2528 El Portal Avenue, stated that they would like to open a very
classy southern style restaurant. There will be three dining areas, formal dining,
informal dining and a grand dining area. The building is in two phases with a total of
20,000 square feet. Planning to use only one phase for the restaurant area. Within
that one phase there will be three different restaurants. There will be a section for
lunch, with take out, that will house approximately 120 people, called the informal
dining area. The formal dining area will have a lounge area which will house anywhere
from 100 to 120 people. The grand dining area will be able to house the whole complex,
roughly about 400 to 500 people. In all three restaurants there will be from 100 to
120 tables seating an average of 4 people each. Mr. Barrs stated that they are in the
process of purchasing this property contingent upon the conditional use.
Mr. Willie Hickman, Orlando, stated that he is in favor of the proposed conditional
use.
Mr. William Royster, 118 larkwood Drive, stated that his office is at 205 Elm Avenue,
across the street fromâ–º this property. Mr. Royster stated that he has no problem with
the allowance of alcohol. What he is concerned with is parking. To allow any parking
on Fulton Avenue would be a gross mistake because Fulton is one of the few thru streets
where the traffic moves rapidly. Mr. Royster said that part of his property is public
right-of-way but there is no doubt in his mind that with this type operation, his pro-
perty and First Federal will become primary parking areas.
Mr. Royster stated that he is going on record to speak for Greene and Dycus, as being
against this proposal.
Mr. Malone stated that
parking canes under the site plan but would like to know if
parking was considered.
Mr. Barrs stated that the
first plan shows 146 to 160 parking
spaces on this property.
Another plan shows them talking to the bank about using their
parking lot on the weekends and after hours. Mr.
Barr stated that Phase One will be
the formal dining and will be open towards lunch.
They do not expect to have a great
big crowd for lunch and
they can only hold 120 to
140 people and should have adequate
parking on -site to handle the lunch crowd. Phase
Two is the informal dining, an after
five type thing, which
this dining will be open
during happy hours for snacks and
things of this type nature. This is after business hours and they hope to use the
Bank's parking for any
type of overflow. Phase
Three is the grand dining which is
planned to be open only
on weekends. Once again,
an arrangement is hoped to be made
with the Bank to handle
the overflow of parking.
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Mr. Malone made motion to reccnmend approval subject to site plan approval. Mr. Brooks
seconded. All in favor. Motion carried.
The next item on the agenda was a Public Hearing to consider the conditional use for
the property located at 1522 S. French Avenue for the purpose of a restaurant with con-
sumption of alcoholic beverages on premises in a GC -2 zone. Owner: Sanford Centre
Associates, Ltd.; representative: Gregory S. Clyde.
Mr. Morris moved to table the proposed conditional use due to lack of representation.
Mr. Davidson seconded. Mr. Malone opposed. Motion carried.
The next item on the agenda was a discussion regarding the use of grass, mulch or a
pervious alternative to the auto display area at 2600 French Avenue in a GC -2 zone.
Owner: Bob Ball, Sr., representative: D. McGuire.
Mr. Wayne McGuire, Maitland, stated that he wants to display automobiles on the left
hand side of the grass area. Will have 6 to 7 cars. He is renting the front portion
and the lot where the grassed area is. There will be no junk cars.
The Commission unanimously recommended that the owner pave the area if he wished to
continue automotive uses for the parcel.
The first item on the late agenda was the discussion as to whether Florida Airgas could
assume the existing nonconforming use of retail sales by Home Appliances Center at
1700 West lst Street in a RMOI zone for welding supply, retail sales only.
Mr. Mark Cartwright stated that they are currently trying to establish their 9th retail
outlet in the central Florida area. The building that they are looking at was used by
a home appliance center. Florida Airgas wholesales and retails welding supplies for
manufacture of supplies, for the hospitals, and restaurants. There will be bottled gas
stored inside. This will be strictly retail walk -in for customers. All filling of gas
cylinders are done at the Orlando site.
Mr. Morris asked if Staff had any information from the Fire Department. Mrs.
Sonnenberg stated that same of the gases could be flammable or combustible and there
might have certain constraints for the storage but the Fire Department had no main
problems with it being a retail outlet.
Mr. Malone stated that this is not right to allow retail even though it has been grand -
fathered in. We need more information from Staff.
Mrs. Sonnenberg stated that another alternative would be for him to ask for rezoning
because it is contiguous to GC -2 zoning. Mr. Malone and Mr. Speer would like to see
him go for rezoning of this property. Mr. Carli advised the representative to rezone
fron RMOI to GC -2 in order to have a retail sales out in this existing building.
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The next item on the late agenda was the discussion as to whether a towing service only
with an associated impound storage lot would be allowed with an automotive center
located at 2613 Orlando Drive in a GC -2 zone. Owner /representative: Robert G.
Barrett.
Mrs. Sonnenberg stated that this had been under Mr. Whitaker's ownership. A towing
service with an associated impound lot is all they want. Mr. Speer stated that there
are residential hares in that area. The Commission denied the use of a towing service
and an impound lot because of the inappropriate use being adjacent to SR -1 zoning on
the east.
The next item on the late agenda was a discussion as to whether a manufacture of mini-
buses would be an appropriate use in a RI -1 zone on property located on Kennel Road.
Owner: TransWorld, Inc.; representative: Don Collins.
Mr. James Duke asked if the Commission could give them some guidance as to whether or
not the manufacturing of mini -buses would be allowed in a RI -1 zone located behind the
church at 46 and Kennel Road. He stated that they are in the process of moving forward
with construction plans.
Mr. Don Collins, Chairman of the Board and founder of Collins Industries in Hutchinson,
Kansas, stated that they have a bus manufacturing plant in Kansas, a truck manufac-
turing plant in Texas, a trailer plant in Alabama, and a bus and ambulance plant in
Winter Park. Mr. Collins stated that they have approximately 26 acres in Winter Park
and cannot extend their operation. They wish to dispose of the property on the west
side of Forsythe Road in Winter Park and extend the ambulance operation on the east
side. To do this the wheel coach operation needs to be relocated. The Sanford area
makes a good location because employees will not have to be uprooted since 75% of them
live in the northeast quadrant of the Metropolitan Area. They currently employ in
excess of over 100 people.
Mr. Collins stated that they get a chasis with the motor, the wheels, the engine and,
on some, the doors and windshield already in, and they we assemble the body.
Mr. Duke stated that Kennel Road will have to be paved and the water main would have to
be extended. Mr. Collins stated that the building would be from 60 to 75,000 square
feet with a master plan for expansion. The chasis will be stored outside. Mr. Collins
said that they will do an appropriate job of landscaping, parking, paving, etc. and it
will be the kind of building that will contribute to better types of development in the
area.
Mr. Simmons stated that it appears somewhat iffy with regards to our existing develop-
ment regulations because under RI -1 zoning vertually everything Mr. Collins is talking
about is either a permitted use or a conditional use.
The Commission concurred that the establishment of a manufacturing /assembly facility of
mini -buses would be an appropriate use for a RI -1 zone for property located on Kennel
Road.
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The next item on the late agenda was the consideration of a revision to Jim Lash's Blue
Book to allow the parking of automobiles for sale and the storage of automobiles for
parts aril /or repair on an unpaved area. Owner: Jim Lash's Blue Book; representative:
Steve Lash.
Mr. Steve Lash asked permission to use the grassed area for display and employee
parking and also for Seminole County Sheriff cars. The grassed area is maintained.
Mr. Simmons stated that we need to get more information regarding the drainage and an
oil skimmer. The issue on drainage can be resolved.
Mrs. Sonnenberg stated that we approved a site plan for this area and it was never
identified as a display area. We would have considered it if it had been done at that
particular time.
Mr. Norris asked if Staff could check the minutes of December 1974 to see if there is
anything relative to financial concerns. Also Chairman Carli requested that the Code
Enforcement Inspector write Mr. Lash a letter relative to any violations.
Mrs. Sonnenberg is to check and see if the Commission can get the minutes of the Code
Enforcement Board.
Chairman Carli requested all violations along that strip of auto dealers because he
does not believe that things are being applied equally and fairly.
After discussion regarding the grand - fathering of the unpaved display areas and engi-
neering concerns regarding drainage, Mr. Morris moved to allow parking of automobiles
for sale and storage and for parts and repair along the unpaved area for 45 days. Mr.
Davidson seconded. All in favor. Motion carried.
Mr. Keith requested that the disabled parking sign on First Street on the west side of
the crossing walk be put back on the east side of the crossing walk.
Mr. Davidson stated that there is a problem with the stop signs at Wal -Mart plaza.
Requested Staff check on these.
Mr. Malone made motion to approve the minutes as circulated. Mr. Morris seconded. All
in favor. Motion carried.
Meeting adjourned at 8 :30 P.M.
Br Carli, Chairman
TO: City of Sanford Planning and Zoning Commission
FROM: Jay R. Marder, City Planner
DATE: November 10, 1988
SUBJECT: Planning Recommendations for November 17, 1988
HARPER /DAVIS /PILOIAN /SUMMER /ANDERSON - Request to rezone from SR-
1A, Single Family Residential to RC -1, Restricted Commercial for
property located on the west side of Sanford Avenue north of East
25th Street.
1. Site is Zoned SR -1A, Single Family Residential and includes
various existing one family dwellings on lots fronting
Sanford Avenue.
2. West boundary of site is adjacent to a row of lots fronting
Palmetto Avenue which include various one family dwellings
Zoned SR -1A. One family dwellings Zoned SR -1A are also
located on east side of Sanford Avenue adjacent to site. A
church is located adjacent to north boundary of site.
3. A sporting goods store fronting West 25th Street is adjacent
to the south boundary of site in an RC -1, Restricted
Commercial Zone.
4. The area in question is designated "Neighborhood" on the
Future Land Use Concept map in the Comprehensive Plan. The
neighborhood designation provides for small - scale,
neighborhood - oriented commerce activities to be established
" . on a site -by -site basis. " (P. II -18,
Comprehensive Plan Document The request in effect
constitutes a request to establish a neighborhood commerce
area. The Plan also states that " . . . When located in a
designated neighborhood area, neighborhood commerce areas
should be located with direct access to and street frontage
on major streets designated on the Major Thoroughfare Plan
Map. . . 1' (P. II -18). Sanford Avenue is such a designated
major street. Therefore, while the subject request is
generally consistent with Land Use Location Policies
contained in the Comprehensive Plan, the Plan provides
decision - making flexibility for establishing neighborhood
commerce areas on a site -by -site basis.
5. The question is one of policy regarding the establishment of
nonresidential uses along Sanford Avenue in the immediate
area and, more generally that portion of Sanford Avenue
from the site north to East 13th Street, an entirely
residential area.
PLANNING RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION
MEETING OF NOVEMBER 17, 1988, PAGE 2
6. Recommend denial of the request based on the desirability of
maintaining the residential character already established in
the immediate area and the general desirability of
preventing uncoordinated uses and development patterns
exemplified by portions of Sanford Avenue south of East 25th
Street.
FEINBERG - Request for a conditional use permit for the
consumption of alcoholic beverages on premises in an SC -3,
Special Commercial Zoning District for property bounded by Fulton
Street, West Commercial Street, North Laurel Avenue and North Elm
Avenue.
1. Planning recommendations are not provided for this type of
request.
SANFORD CENTRE ASSOCIATES, LTD. - Request for a conditional use
permit for consumption of alcoholic beverages on premises in a
GC -2, General Commercial Zoning District located on French Avenue
south of West 13th Street.
1. Planning recommendations are not provided for this type of
request.