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Planning and Zoning Commission
December 3, 1987
7:00 P.M.
Members Present:
Tommy Speer
Joe Dennison
John Morris
Gary Davidson
Sheila Roberts
Members Absent:
Jay Malone
Brent Carli
Eddie Keith
John LeRoy
Others Present:
Commissioner Whitey Eckstein
Jay Marder, City Planner
Bettie Sonnenberg, Zoning and Arbor Inspector
Bill Simmons, Director of Engineering and Planning
The meting was called to order at 7:04 P.M. by Chairman Morris.
The first item on the agenda was the consideration of a request to rezone from AD to
that of MI -2 for the purpose of industrial manufacturing, offices, etc., that property
located at 705 S. Airport Boulevard. Owner: George Martin; representative: Mr. Bob
Seigler.
Mr. Seigler of 2524 S. Park Avenue stated that on the north of the property there is
County zoning MIA, on the west of the property there is City zoning RI -1, on the east
and south there is MI -2 zoning. This is not farm land and it is not properly zoned
agricultural and we are requesting compatible zoning with that portion on the east and
on the south.
There was no one else to speak in favor of or against the requested rezoning. Mr.
Dennison moved to approve the rezoning. Mrs. Roberts seconded. No further
discussion. All in favor. Notion carried.
The next item on the agenda was the consideration of a request to rezone from SR -1 to
that of RC -1 for the purpose to lease of sell professional offices, that property
located at 1118 Park Avenue South. owner /representative: Joseph W. Casso.
Mr. Casso of 209 Lago Vista, Casselberry, stated that the house has been vacant for
about three years. Would like to make it into a doctor's or a dentist's office.
Present to speak in opposition to the proposed rezoning was Mr. George W. Bouis of 1114
S. Park Avenue. Mr. Bouis stated that he is just north of the proposed rezoning. He
stated that this area is already congested and he does not know how much more traffic
this operation would bring into the neighborhood. There is a 7 -11 and a day care
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center across the street with a tremendous amount of traffic. Ms. Bette Skates of 1108
Park Avenue spoke in opposition, stating that the neighborhood is deteriorating. There
will be a parking problem, and that they are trying to keep their neighborhood residen-
tial. Mr. Glen Daman of 600 Oak Avenue stated that he is definitely against the pro-
posed rezoning because it is spot zoning and there is no room for parking.
Mr. Speer made motion to deny and Mr. Davidson seconded. No further discussion. All
in favor. Motion carried.
The next item on the agenda was the consideration of a request for a conditonal use in
a SC -3 zone, that property located at 206 Elm Avenue for the purpose of minimal resi-
dential as described in Chapter IOE3 of the Florida Statutes, Adult Congregate Living
Facility. Owners: William & Geraldine Mayhood; representative: Morris Kelly.
Larry Visser, the Executive Director of The Grove Cousel Center, stated that The Grove
is a non - profit treatment prevention center for chemical dependency.. There is a
program for all age groups. The center was formed in 1971 by a group of Sanford citi-
zens. Would like the conditional use to operate a halfway house facility.
Mr. Morris Kelly, Director of The Grove, stated that they would like to provide a ser-
vice for persons who have completed long term residential treatment or a 28 day program
that are in need of further services. Space for 8 to 10 clients will be provided.
Admission criteria includes completion of primary treatment, must be chemically free,
must be employed or able to seek employment or attend vocational training. There will
be a full time licensed or certified staff, 24 hours. There is a garage apartment in
back, 6 bedrooms, living and dining roams, 2 -full baths, and t.v. roam. The facility
over the garage will be for people who are participating in outpatient services. The
success rate is over 50 %. The program is for 3 to 9 months consisting of treatment and
setting goals. The average age of the clients is late 20's to early 30's. This faci-
lity is for people over the age of 19.
Mr. Visser stated that The Grove is funded through a variety of sources including the
State, County, United Way, School Board and various civic clubs and groups.
Present to speak in opposition was Mr. Charles H. Sterik of 218 Elm Avenue. He stated
that the neighborhood is basically residential, single family with young children and
teenagers.
Mr. Carl Shrinks of 218 Laurel Avenue stated that he didn't think this house could
accommodate this many people and that this is a residential area. He is against the
proposed conditional use.
Mr. Curt Elbe of 217 S. Laurel Avenue stated that there is a drug problem in this area
now and he is opposed to the conditional use.
Mr. Visser stated that the poeple lack understanding. This type of program is much
more highly supervised than the way it use to be. There will be one house manager,
will be someone on duty at all times.
Mr. Glen Dolman of 600 Oak Avenue stated that he doubt that this house would pass fire
inspection because it is 60 to 80 years old. This is spot zoning and it is not needed.
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Mr. Dan Crockett lives in Altamonte now but lived in Sanford for 13 years stated that
he is in favor of the halfway house. He is a counselor at another facility. There is
a lot of fear, drug addicts, alcoholics that go through treatment. Mr. Crockett stated
that he did not know of a more responsible staff than The Grove.
Mr. Speer stated that the reputation of The Grove is not the issue but to maintain the
integrity of the single family neighborhood. Mr. Speer made motion to deny the con-
ditional use. Mrs. Roberts seconded. All in favor. Chairman Morris in opposition to
the motion. Motion carried.
The next item on the agenda was the consideration of the tabled site plan for a car lot
for Kevin Sullivan, 190 Persimmon Avenue in a GC -2 zone. Owner /representatives: Kevin
and Sharon Sullivan.
The Chairman entertained a motion to be taken off the table. So moved by Mr. Davidson.
Seconded by Mrs. Roberts. All in favor. Motion carried.
Ms. Sullivan stated that the changes that Mrs. Sonnenberg requested in a letter of
October 26 have been campleted. Mrs. Sonnenberg stated that all changes have been
addressed except for a stabilized drive on the back. Ms. Sullivan stated that they
could remove the detail area because the detailing is basically polishing and washing
or they could extend a portion of the display area. Mr. Simmons stated that that
would be even better.
Mr. Speer moved to adopt the site plan as amended. Mr. Davidson seconded. No further
discussion. All in favor. Motion carried.
The next item on the agenda was the consideration of the site plan for Ensley
Corporation, a paving contractor located at 408 Holly Avenue in a GC -2 zone. Owner:
Joe W. Brooks; representative: Mr. Kim Townsend.
Mr. Townsend stated that the Arbor requirement is exceeded and they have 13 parking
spaces. Mr. Townsend and Mr. Mack LaZenby showed a slide presentation which consisted
of slides looking west to 6th Street with the hydrant on the south side; looking east
on 6th street from Holly Avenue; looking south on Holly, east side; 5th Street looking
due west on the south side of property; looking north into Ensley property; the
interior of the property looking west; looking from west into back of single family
home; alley at rear, unimproved; looking from Holly northward; storm drain, 12"
concrete line that does not work, under puddle; trees to be removed and trees that will
remain; slides that showed existing landscaping and a house to the west of the pro-
perty. Mr. LaZenby stated that they could put the drainage any place the City wanted
it but would like to utilize the alley. Would like to use 75 -feet of the alley and
additional runoff will be handled by a retention pond. Mr. LaZenby stated that the
drainage that runs don Holly Avenue does not work.
Mr. Simmons stated that relative to the drainage, he objects to the idea of putting the
stormwater into the alley because 1) an increase in stormwater flow unless they wishes
to go to pre post; 2) there is a significant slope to the alley from the point source
discharge to the retention pond proposed creating erosion over time as a result of
greater runoff; 3) inoperative storm drain system creates a second problem by running
down alley; 4) fire hydrant distance, 1 additional needed; 5) requirement for Arbor
permit; and 6) future building not approved by this body at this time.
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Mr. LaZenby stated that the equipment is parked where it is because it has always been
this way, the parking area could be stabilized. A future storage building is a shade
structure to get the equipment out of the weather and have it parked on a concrete sur-
face.
Mr. Simmons stated that since we have heard the new indications that the engineer is
willing to do whatever needs to be done; he requested the Ccxmdssion table this site
plan for resolving technical issue. Mr. LaZenby stated that there are no new issues,
they are willing to do what ever the City wants. Mr. Speer made motion to table
2 -weeks (to come back on 12/17) to resolve the differences. Mr. Davidson seconded.
All in favor. Motion carried.
The next item on the agenda was the consideration of two duplexes located at 1324
Hickory Avenue in a MR -1 zone. Owner /representative: Norman Bastin.
Mr. Victor DeRozier, contractor, represented Mr. Norman and Russell Bastin. Stated
that they want to build 2 duplexes on 3 lots. Mr. DeRozier stated that they still
have to do the drainage calculations and have the engineer show on plans how the
drainage will work.
Mr. Simmons asked how extensively would the B -B' section be applied. If it is put on
the entire parking lot it will damn up. Mr. Simmons stated that a header board is
recommended where mulch meets the driveway. Bumper blocks are recommended. There is
no indication of drainage calculations or retention on property. The engineering solu-
tion is simple, no major issues.
Mr. Speer moved to approve subject to retention pond being amended and approved by the
City Engineering Department and lighting being approved. Mrs. Roberts seconded. No
further discussion. All in favor. Motion carried.
Mr. Simmons stated that he had talked to the Postal Service relative to parking, they
realize the need for site plan approval for additional right -of -way use in order to
extend their present diagonal parking right in front of the Post Office being closer to
the corner and along Seminole Blvd. Mr. Simmons stated that he pretty much discouraged
them because of the very close distance to the corner on Palmetto Avenue and we
recently prohibited parking on Seminole because of sight distance problem coming out of
the parking lot. They are still trying to come up with an idea to make the Post Office
better.
Chairman Morris asked the schedule for the Railroad to fix the tracks on French Avenue.
Mr. Simmons stated that correspondence is ongoing with D.O.T. The work was to have
happened this fall, it is on their work schedule.
Commissioner Eckestein of 103 Aldean Drive wanted to know if the Planning Commission
would refer the site of the teenage nightclub to City Commission.
Chairman Morris stated that the majority of the Commission felt that this is not the
place for a teenage club. Mr. Speer stated that it is a bad place for the kids.
Meeting adjourned at 9:15 P.M.
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Joh orris, Chairman