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HomeMy WebLinkAbout02.20.86MINUTES PLANNING AND 9ONING COMMISSION February 20, 1986 7:00 P.M. Members Present: John Morris, Chairman Brent Carli Jay Malone Sheila Roberts Gary L. Davidson Eddie Keith Darrell Grieme John LeRoy Members Absent: Dr. Hortense Evans Others Present: Bettie Sonnenberg, Zoning Inspector Bill Simmons, Director of Engineering S Planning Jay Marder, City Planner The meeting was called to order at 7:00 P.M. by the Chairman, John Morris. The first item on the agenda was to consider a tabled site plan for Harbor Front Village, Phase I at 501 N. Palmetto Avenue in a SC -3 zone, represented by John Smith. At the present, there are 158 parking spaces located there. The Staff submitted a layout plan for the new site showing 162 parking spaces. Mr. Smith submitted a site showing 196 parking spaces. Mr. Simmons stated that the plan shows improvement on the Marina and they have provided more than the required number of parking spaces, but need- better marking in the area for traffic flow. The members questioned as to which site plan were they supposed to be looking at since there are 3 different ones in front of them. Mr. Smith stated that he would like the board to review the one with the 196 parking spaces. Mr. Malone stated that in reality not enough space to handle what is there now, not counting on what will be added and it will deter the development of the downtown area. Mr. Morris stated that the business owners would be willing to resolve any problems. Mr. Smith stated that he is presently utilizing 11 parking spaces to show his boats. On the new plan, he would be utilizing 9 parking spaces at the most to show his boats, which would be in front of the storage building. There will be 5 retail stores with the possibilities of having a nautical gift shop, clothing or maybe recreation and marine use. The signs will be located on the building for each business. Mr. Smith stated that the dumpster would be located to the east of the property. A permit may be requried from St. John Water Management for utilizing air space on their property. The lights will be relocated to where the City wants them. Mr. Carli feels there would be a great impact on public property and use due to the Star of Sanford being out of business, the people will be coming to the Romance which would cause an even heavier impact on the lot. Mr. Carli read to the board, Art. 8; Sec. 6: Site development plan of the Zoning Ordinance and stated that the board should consider what the ordinance states. Mrs. Roberts moved to approve the site plan due to 1.) City Commission approved the concept of this area with the approved parking and 2.) the project will be good for the City and the citizens. Mr. Carli seconded for discussion. During discussion on the motion, Mr. Carli again asked the board to act �on the provisions as stated in Art. 8, Sec. 6: Site development plan. He also stated that the City Commission approved the concept to set the ball in motion for Planning and Zoning to approve. Mr. Malone stated there is need to amend stating which site plan is being voted on. Mr. Carli stated that the 120 slips are fully occupied, Romance is fully utilized, and the area has big problems. Mr. Carli withdrew MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION - February 20, 1986 - 7:00 P.M. Page 2 his second. He stated that anything outside the legal should be marked out. They would like to have the boat ramp put in the first phase. Mr. Keith seconded the motion because the concept originally stated a yacht club. Mrs. Roberts stated she feels the Staff will make sure that things will be done right. Mr. Morris questioned if in the lease, is landscaping requried on the beach? Mr. Smith told him it was not stated. He said he would like to get with the Scenic Improvement Board on the landscaping and he would maintain the building and the landscaping. Mr. Malone stated that the board should advise the City of their concerns. After discussion, the Chairman asked Mrs. Sonnenberg to repeat the motion. After Mrs. Sonnenberg repeated the motion, the Chairman asked Mrs. Roberts if she would amend her motion by stating the plan with the 196 parking spaces be recommended, not approved, and with the City taking advisement on any recommendations the board makes. Mrs. Roberts moved to amend the motion. Mr. Keith seconded. Due to a tie vote, the Chairman stated the amendment passed. Those voting for: Roberts, Keith, Grieme, Morris. Against the motion: LeRoy, Davdison, Carli, Malone. The board denied the approval of the site plan by a vote of 5 to 3. Those voting to deny: Carli, Malone, Davidson, Morris and LeRoy. Those voting against: Grieme, Roberts, Keith Mr. Morris stated the boards main concerns revolved around the increased congestion within the Marina parking, not to the proposed use of the development; the public's use of the facilities and the interaction with the developments use; the site plan represented areas that were outside the jurisdiction of the lease area and whether the members had the authority to approve these outside areas. The next item on the agenda was to consider the site plan for Aho Marine, Inc., boat sales and service, located at 511 E. 25th Street in a GC -2 zone, represented by Dot Meadors. The drainage problem has not been resolved, which was created by Seminole County. There is a 12 ft. lane along the building which will be unsafe for two way traffic. There is a gate located on the side of the property, but it was not located in the rezoned area. A way out would be to have a new entrance off of Grandview Avenue. The Staff recommended denial. There is a possibility of changing the depth of the retention area or having property on the off site handle the drainage. After discussion, Mr. Carli moved to table the site plan till the next meeting. Mr. Davidson seconded. Motion carried. The next item on the agenda was discussion on the proposal for Sanford Acres, a single - family group housing project, located in a MR -1 zone, located between the Lake Mary Blvd. extension and Americana Blvd., represented by W. E. Knowles. Mr. Knowles stated that the proposed project is lying east of the new Seminole Centre shoppping area containing 33.824 acres of land, of which a considerable portion is low and may not be buildable. The project architect /engineer would be meeting with the St. John River Water Management District to determine use of the low area and what building area would be allowed. That meeting will determine the totalnumber of units that might be allowed on this tract. The property is presently zoned MR -1 which allows 15 units per acre. If single- family units are utilized, it will conform to SR -1 regulations which allows 7 units per acre. The buildings have not been designed but will have a 900 sq. ft. minimum living area. The finished plans should show the density lower than the 7 units per acre that is allowed. The board members stated that they like the concept and would like to see the site plan. It was brought to the boards attention of a seminar that they might like to consider attending. The board asked the staff to ask City Commission to pay for the seminar for each member who would like to attend. Mr. Grieme questioned the stop signs at the Seminole Centre. At this time, there was no answer as to the signs whereabouts. The Minutes of the previous meeting were approved. MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION - February 20, 1986 - 7:00 P.M. Page 3 ------------------------------_--_-------------------------------------------------- - - - - -- The Minutes of the previous meeting were approved. There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned. Morris, Chairman