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ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION
City of Sanford
February 13, 1969
City Commission Room, City Hall
8:00 P.M.
Present Clifford W. McKibbin,
John Daniels, Jr.
Jefferson R. Davis
Arthur H. Harris
Phillip H. Logan
John Y. Mercer
City Manager W. E.
Building Official
Building Inspector
Absent Donald G. Bishop,
Robert E. Karns
C.F. Brooke Smith,
Jr. - Chairman
Knowles
Linvel J. Risner
Kermit Wallstedt
Jr.
M . D.
The meeting was called to order by the Chairman.
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The Building Official stated that he might have a problem
with the Sign Ordinance relating to a clarification of the
150 square feet requirement but requested that any action be
deferred until further study could be made on the matter.
Discussion was next given to the possibility of allowing
Used Car Lots in the C -1, Neighborhood Commercial zoning under
certain restrictions or as a conditional use. The Chairman
stated that he and the City Attorney had not as yet been able
to get together on the matter. The Chairman referred to
provisions in Article 11, C -1, Neighborhood Commercial District,
bb amended to Section 1 - 30(a)'to provide an additional use
as Used Car Lots notwithstanding Paragraph 36 and providing
that in such connection all provisions of the Zoning Ordinance
be complied with and the specials with regard to the provision
of the Zoning Ordinance, Article 15, Part G, Paragraph 3, and
the provisions of the Sanford Electrical Code, Paragraph 18 -B
of Paragraph 730. He stated that, apparantly in the Electrical
Code there is a minimum height that strings of lights can be used
and felt that this might be the problem in used car lots is that
the lights, even though they are 60 watt or 100 watt, they still
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make a lot of light in particular to a residence or residences
abutting a neighborhood commercial area. (Reference is made, -
that the particular area in question or Onder discussion is
that property owned by Howard McNulty on French Avenue inter-
secting with Sarita and Osceola Drive consisting of six lots with
two of the lots in an R -lA residential zone. Reference is also
made to Minutes dated December 19, 1968, wherein a lengthy
discussion was given on the above.) (Proposed use of the property
was that of Bill Hemphill Motors wherein used car operations are
allowed only in C -2, General Commercial Districts).
under the Zoning Ordinance
It was pointed out that property in the residential
zoning could be utilized for off- street parking as an accessory
use to the commercial use under conditions of the proper screening
with shrubbery or fencing for the protection of the abutting
residential property owner from the bright lights. Some
members felt that the propery owner should seek the commercial
uses allowed in the C -1 zoning and place same on the property
as opposed to amending the zoning ordinance for use of a used
car lot operation. The Building Official pointed out that
if used car lots were to operate under certain restrictions
and allowed in the C -1 districts, it would solve some of the
existing problems and also facilitate a number of persons who
recently seek the C -1 zones for operating used car lots.
Mr. Logan questioned this particular situation as being
a matter for the Board of Adjustment and was informed that a
variance is based on hardship and further that the variance use
cannot change the aspect of the existing zoning. Mr. Logan
stated that he did'not condone amending the ordinance to facilitate
one problem. Mr. Harris pointed out that there are other used
car lots that are non - conforming in the immediate area and cited
as an example the Jim Lash Motors on 17 -92 (French Avenue) and
Hiawatha Avenue with outside used car storage.
The Building Official commented that eventually most used
car lots end up as a junk yard for old cars. He related that
a solution to used car lots in C -1 areas is that the cars be
placed under a roof which would be considered a structure though
it may not be completely enclosed. This would give thos that are
legitimate and want to actually operate a business a basis to do so.
The Chairman questioned what is the basis for the enclosure other
than not seeing anything that would be objectionable. It was the
consensus of opinion that an investiment in the property eliminates
the "fly -by- night" operations. At this point, service stations
were questioned regarding outside storage wherein they have car
and U Haul trailers for rent. The Building Official stated
that this is an accessory use to the primary use being that of
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a service station.
A discussion was then held on the possible rezoning from
C -1 (Neighborhood Commercial) to C -2 (General Commercial) an area
from 25th Street south to 26th Street on French Avenue; around
the corner of Park Drive; and, further discussed the same rezoning
for an area north of 25th Street; namely, French Avenue north
to 24th Street; east on 24th Street to Laurel; the west side of
Laurel; and then south on Laurel to 25th Street.
After discussion, Mr. Logan moved to extend the C -2 zoning
and rezone from C -1 to C -2 that area between 25th and 27th Streets
on French Avenue. Seconded by Mr. Mercer.
After further discussion, the motion was withdrawn.
Discussion was then given to a prior public hearing held
for property in this immediate area and the /re Mon of the
abutting residents. Mr. Harris felt that, if at all possible,
it would be best to consider allowing used car operation in a C -1
zones under some type of control with possibly requirements of
construction of a 200 foot office building and restrooms which
would keep out the type operation that would park ten cars for
a week and then pull out and leave all the trash behind. It
was further discussed that the control include that the cars
be operable and have the current State Safety Inspection sticker
displayed.
The Building Official reiterated his recommendation as out-
lined at a prior meeting of December 19, 1968, regarding said
control and being as follows:
Used car lots be permitted in the C -1 zoning
providing the lot or group of contiguous lots
shall be used for the display and sale of used
automobiles and where no repair work is done
on the premises except for the necessary washing
and polishing of the cars displayed and sold on
the premises.
After consideration, Mr. Harris moved, seconded by Mr.
Logan and carried, that it be recommended to the City Com-
mission that the Zoning Ordinance be amended to include that
in the C -1, Neighborhood Commercial Zoned Districts, used
car lot operations be allowed as a conditional use with the
following restrictions:
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1. Provided that the lot or group of contiguous
lots shall be used for the display and sale of
used automobiles and where no repair work is
done on the premises except for the necessary
washing and polishing of the cars displayed and
sold on the premises.
2. All vehicles be in an operable condition. **
3. Vehicles be certified or bear a current -valid
State Motor Vehicle Safety sticker and current
license tag.
4. Lighting to be properly shaded or shielded
so that same will not create a nuisance-to
abutting property owners.
5. A minimum requirement of a 200 square foot building
be constructed on the premises.
operable would mean inflated tires and no dead
batteries.
and that said amendment to the Zoning Ordinance is recommended
without a public hearing by the Zoning and Planning Commission
due to the expediency of the matter.
The City Manager verified for the Board that Gerald L.
Dake of Gerald L. Dake and Associates, Planning Consultants,
Jacksonville, had been employed as the City's planning con-
sultant on a part -time basis for the planning, updating of
the present Comprehensive City Plan; prepare and assist in
the presentation of applications for federal programs; and
to meet with the Zoning and Planning Commission.
Consideration was next given to the zoning or rezoning
of certain areas recently annexed into the cvrp*xatDe City
limits, as follows:
a) 2800 Block, Palmetto Avenue - an area of 8 lots
between Sanford Avenue and Magnolia Avenue south
of 28th Place; legally described as Lots 17, 18,
22, 23, 24, 40, 41 and 42, Park'View, 2nd Addn.
Mr. Harris moved that it be recommended to the City
Commission that the above property be zoned that of R -1
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(Single Family Dwelling District). Seconded by Mr. Mercer
and carried.
b) Area of School Board property; site of Seminole
Seminole High School and Lakeview Junior High School
(including all of Lake Jennie and
c) Abutting property to the above and referred to
as the "Zeuli" property
On motion of Mr. Harris, seconded by Mr. Logan and carried,
it was recommended to the City Commission that the above property
be zoned as follows:
All property north of Santa Barbara Drive, east of
Georgia Avenie, west of Hartwell Avenue, and south
of Osceola Drive be zoned R -1 (Single Family Dwelling
District); legally described as Lots 1 thru 4, Vi Mar;
and Lots 1 thru 22 and 30 through 51, Block 36, Fourth
Sec., Dreamwold.
All property west of Georgia Avenue and south of
Santa Barbara Drive be zoned R -3 (Multiple Family
Dwelling) District; such property being School Board
property; and Zeuli property legally described as
Lots 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11, Vi Mar.
Note School Board property not legally described
herein due to its lengthy description in metes and
bounds.
d) That area known as "Industrial Park Area" lying
on the est side of Crppeville Avenue and south
of Jewett Lane XXXXXXXX
3ITKYWINK legally described as Blocks 71, 72
79 and that part of Block 78 lying northerly
of the Seaboard Coastline Railroad and that
portion of the RR /ROW adjacent thereto in M. M.
Smith's Subdivision.
On motion of Mr. Harris, seconded by Mr. Mercer and carried,
it was recommended to the City Commission that the above
property be zoned that of M -1 (Light Industrial) District,
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned.
o 1 1 - 1 1 t hf /'Chairman