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ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION
City of Sanford
June 19, 1969
City Commission Room, City Hall
8:00 P.M.
Present Clifford W. McKibbin, Jr., Chairman
Donald G. Bishop, Jr.
Jefferson R. Davis
Arthur H. Harris
Robert E. Karns
Garnett White
City Planner Gerald Dake
City Manager W. E. Knowles
Building Official Linvel J. Risner
Building Inspector Kermit Wallstedt
Absent B. C. (Cal) Conklin
John Daniels, Jr.
Phillip H. Logan
The Chairman called the meeting to order.
Garnett White was welcomed as a new member to the Board.
After discussion and on recommendation of the City
Planner, the Chairman was instructed to write a letter to
Jeno F. Paulucci, Sanford industrialist and owner of large
holdings of downtown commercial property, to request his
meeting with the Board members relative to utilization
plans of the property and other ideas that might be in-
corporated or coordinated in the updating of the Compre-
hensive City Plan.
The City Planner then made a presentation of work being
brought up to date on City Planning in the form of a land
use pattern map with a color code of existing properties
and their present use with the map approximately two - thirds
complete. The map indicated growth coming from the lake-
front, southward and continuing on this pattern and to the
west, with the potential indicated in the Lake Mary area.
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Discussion led to various vacant property platted as a sub-
division and remaining undeveloped and the need to tie these
areas in with the adjacent developments. Particular attention
was given to that area known as the Demetree property, San
Lanta, 3rd Section, in the area of Celery Avenue and east of
Locust Avenue. The discussion also touched on various
streets as to widths, setbacks and traffic.
The Planner next submitted a proposed Capital Improvement
Program outlay for the City for a total cost of $7,213,000.00
and in order of priority as follows:
Street paving (in minority
areas)
Secondary Sewer Treatment
Security Complex
Drainage
Fire Station
Zoo Relocation
City Hall
Library
group or sub - standard
Plant
A
A
B
B
B
C
C
C
Estimated credits from the program $ 5,000,000
Total Urban Renewal Program (a gain of 15,000,000
federal dollars
Each improvement project was discussed on an individual basis
relative to cost and need. Mr. Dake pointed out that with
increasing costs and high percentage rates, these projects
could be considered under federal funds of Urban Renewal
improvements with the government paying three - quarters of
the cost and the City paying one - quarter with the City's
payment being made in the form of credits from improve-
ments such as physical man -hours from sidewalk paving, sewage
work, and so forth.
The Planner then explained to the Board the new legislative
state -wide Urban Renewal Bill which was just passed in the last
legislative session and which requires a vote of public
referendum. This means that Florida now has the power to
undertake urban renewal programs within its cities, counties,
and consolidated government areas. He suggested that con-
sideration be given to starting on a program of presentation
to the public regarding urban renewal and how it works, and
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ultimately a recommendation from the Board to the City Com-
- mission on how to undertake urban renewal; or if it should
be undertaken; how it should be funded; how it will tie in;
and proper scheduling.
The Chairman pointed out the possibility of the City
entering into a lease under state law such as the U.S. Post
Office for buildings such as city hall, library, and fire station
with the factor being that they become obsolete or worn out
wherein an obsolete building for one purpose could be used for
another purpose such as private use.
The City Manager commented on this possibility in that
he pointed out as an example - a library facility could be
classified almost as a "warehouse" for the storing of books;
the city hall being an office building and lending itself to
other uses vs. a sewer plant being of general use but of a
particular design. Also brought out was the zoo relocation
and the need for answers to some crucial questions on this
improvement as to where are we going to put it. If inside
the city limits, where is there 15 to 20 acres on a heavily
travelled street. If outside the city limits, will the county
help operate it. Mr. Dake stated that Sanford is known for
its zoo and that the city has a tool that has not been capitalized
on.
The City Manager pointed out for consideration the fact
that municipal government is rapidly changing and this points
to the concept of metro and consolidation and now going on
in Central Florida is the thinking of acting as a "region"
rather than as independent units. For example - a library
is the best adapted to a regional concept. One central large
library is as much use to the general public as nothing at all.
The more modern thinking is that you take your facilities to
population points where people have access of it, and this
means that rather than one large building with 150 square
feet in it, you may have 5 or 6 structures with 15 or 20,000
square feet in each one. It is a system of libraries rather
than "a" library. Speaking of the security comples, thought
should be given to a central facility to house things as a
special adaptation meaning such as a courtroom plus a labaratory
therein eliminating five cities with five narcotics laboratories
with five men part trained where you could have one central
narcotics training lab with a trained technician in it to serve
say five municipalities and the county. This could apply to
dark room equipment, polygraph, and so forth where you would
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have "a" specialist. In this manner you are speaking of con-
venience and saving taxpayers' money. The Manager suggested
the Board consider is there a more efficient way of planning
the government of the City of Sanford for a period of 20 -40
years.
A discussion and explanation period then followed relating
to the Metro system of government and the system of Consolidation
wherein the Planner outlined and gave examples on the two
different systems by referring to Jacksonville now under the
Consolidation type and Miami under Metro type. A suggestion
was made regarding a possible meeting and /or Workshop Session
between the City and County planning boards to explore the
feasibility of the consolidation concept of government. No
® official recommendation was made on this matter.
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The Planner outlined the following for the Board to
consider:
0 1. A questionnaire to be sent to each member regarding land
use, population, housing conditions, and general develop -
LLJ ment problems which will require the study and comments
LO of each member and if the Board finds it in order, it
W can then be sent to the newspaper(s) for publication
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2. The need to get started on citizens contact or education
Q� in the form of a public forum or speaking engagements.
0 This could be scheduled shortly after the questionnaire goes
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3. Spend some time on the Capital Improvement Program.
Need for recommendation to the City Commission and
studies on same.
4. Consideration of the Urban Renewal law and what we want.
(Citizens education is needed in this phase.)
5. Need to get started on the S & P.
6. Joint planning meeting between City board and County board
for stimulating some thought.
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The Planner pointed out that Capital Improvement Programs
and Urban Renewal tie in very closely.
It was requested that the Planner add his personal thoughts
and ideas to the Capital Improvement Program and submit it at
the next meeting. The Planner requested that the Board give
this program serious thought.
On motion of Mr. Harris, seconded by Mr. Karns and carried,
the Board agreed to cooperate with the City Planner on the
aforementioned suggestions.
The Planner recommended that they have further discussions
and study on Urban Renewal. Also, the Planner stated that
he would assemble all information available on this subject
for the members.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned to
July 10, 1969, at 7 :30 P.M.
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