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HomeMy WebLinkAbout07.21.66ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES Thursday, July 21, 1966 - 7 :30 PM City Commission Room, City Hall (Joint Meeting with City Commission at 8 PM) Present: Clifford W. McKibbin, Jr., Chairman Donald Bishop, Jr. Arthur Harris Robert E. Karns A. W. Lee, Jr. Phillip Logan C. F. Brooke Smith Mason H. Wharton City Manager Knowles The Chairman called the meeting to order. The first item of business was a discussion held regarding a request for a variance to the Sign Ordinance by William Hemphill pertaining to erecting an additional sign at his used car lot on West First Street. Such sign to be 4 feet in.�.height and 24 feet long; made of plywood; to be placed approximately 40 feet back from West First Street; and to be a single face sign. It was noted that Mr. Hemphill owned all the property within the block of his present establishment on the south side of West First Street and the placement of the sign on the used car lot 40' back from the highway on the west side of the building would not present a problem or hazard to traffic. Thereupon, Mr. Harris moved that the variance as requested for the,..=sgn erection be granted. Seconded by Mr. Karns and carried. Due to the resignation of William Bush from the Zoning and Planning Commission, Mr. Harris moved that a recommendation be made to the City Commission to appoint Jefferson R. Davis to fill the vacancy. Motion seconded by Mr. Logan and carried. With the arrival of the City Commission, the Zoning and Planning Commission adjourned to a joint meeting with this body at 8 P.M. r i ILI cz . � e !A r� ^J 0 r �,. fF Z & P Minutes 7/21/66 -2- Mayor A. L. Wilson opened with a call for a discussion of the proposed amendments to the sign regulations. Commissioner Higginbotham said he wanted just a general law to fit a business and its location with each sign to be taken up individually. Mayor Wilson stated that the City Commission had re- quested the Zoning and Planning Commission to prepare pro- posed recommendations, which they had; and the purpose of the meeting was to discuss these regulations as submitted to them and thereby come to a meeting of the minds. Commissioner Raborn mentioned that he felt that the City had to liberalize the regulations. Commissioner Baker stated that he disagreed with both Commissioners' line of thought. He then mentioned that he is familiar with signs in other communities and that the attractive communities have less signs and probably good sign ordinances. Further stating, he liked a strict sign ordinance and favored the City's existing sign ordinance, but with more enforcement towards it. Commissioner Higginbotham mentioned that the majority of the present problems was in "price" signs and if they could get rid of them, it would get rid of the clutter; and that the trouble is and will be that of adopting an ordinance that will actually stand up, plus being compatible to both sides. Mr. Harris stated that the Commission should let them know what they as the City Commission want in a sign ordinance and the Zoning and Planning will then proceed to draw it up with the City Commission then as the final enforcement of the law. Th4�Qity Attorney rendered information as to what is presently recognized by the courts in zoning in the State of Florida. They do not recognize a law for control pertaining to asthetics. A further opinion was rendered in that, when the proper ordinance is agreed upon and adopted, it should be enforced and no variances granted whereby this has created some of the problems in the past with variances being granted by the Zoning and Planning Commission and /or by the1City Com- mission�. Z & P Commission Minutes / 7/21/66 3 Mayor Wilson then called for the group to go through the proposed regulations point by point. Under the proposed regulations, the following changer were recommended: Section B: (1) Change the wording to mean flasher confusing the traveling public that appear like traffic control devices. (2) OK (3) Eliminate entirely (4) &(5) A2bw one sign if inside the block and two signs in at a corner location with the signs to be set back a distance of the height of the sign plus 5 feet. Section D: (1) Use replacement cost (2) Change the 5 -year period to 10 years. (3) Include the amber and the new flashing blue lights Sections E and Section F: Okay Section G: (1) Eliminate the last sentence of the second para- graph and add that larger signs shall be by approval of the City Commission. Change the 100 square foot requirement to 150 sq. feet. Added size to be 1.5 square feet for each 1 -foot of property frontage. Section H: (1) OK (2) Change the 100 sq. foot requirement to 150 sq. feet. Section I: (1) OK (2) Change the requirement of 100 sq. feet to 150 square feet. Section J: Okay Section K: Rates should reflect a proportionate increase for the larger 150 sq. foot signs. There being no further business, the meeting adjourned. CFiairman Secretary