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HomeMy WebLinkAbout12.29.60 SpecialZ X ii.; U) CL Cd 0 M ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION Special Meeting December 29, 1960 8:00 PM City Commission Room - City Hall Members present were Messers. McKibbin, Lee, Talley, Karns, Morgan, Harris, Bush, and Kirtley. (Mr. Kirtley.arriving late in the evening; therefore, did not voice any opinions or take vote in any action). Also present were: City Manager Knowles; Building Official Yelvington; Mr. George W. Simons, Jr., Planning Consultant of Jacksonville; Mr. Martin Gainer, Acting Manager of the Planning Division of the Florida Development Commission, . Tallahassee; City Commissioners Brown, Baker, Wilson, Crappsand City Com- missioner�Elect Tom 1&Donald; Finance Director Tamm, Wally Dietrichs local realtor; Jerry Dake, former resident city planner i� Sanford; and local newspaper reporters, Marion Harman and Larry'Vershel. Meeting was called to order by Chairman McKibbin. a.', U) Li n 0 U M A request for rezoning from that of R -1 to a C -1 was represented by Mr. Clarence Wynn, owner of the property, for. an area bounded on the north by 25th Place; on the east by Grandview Avenue South; on the south by 26th St. and on the west by:Scnford Avenue. Legal being: -- All of Block 2, Palm Terrace and also Lot IA, Seminole Heights. The request was accompanied by a signed petition from abutting property owners. This area is approximately k block south of Angel's Eat PP y Shack and on the east side of Sanford Ave. Mr. Wynn owns Lots 1 thtu 18, Block 2, Palm Terrace. Mr. Wynn stated that he was op rating a dealership from this point known as the the Mr. Art Harris called to /Board's attention that the plan of the City Planner showed this area for future residential use. "Colorad& Coach ", which is a living unit that fits on any pick up truck.I The operation at this location would be similar to a car lot. i Mr. Brown, City Commissioner and County Zoning Director, stated thlat the County had recently rezoned to commercial south of 26th Street, on both sides of Sanford Avenue for a block and one -half bn the west side and one block on the east side. Mr. Karns questioned the fact if this rezoning presented an im®ediate problem to Mr. Wynn. i - Z&P Minutes 12/29/60 2 Moved by the above area from an R -i to Mr. Morgan, seconded by Mr. Bush and carried that, be recommended to the City Commission for rezoning that of C-1 and a public hearing so set. The meeting having been set up for the sole purpose of discussing and airing in the open with the City Planner and the Acting Manager of the Planning Dept. of the Florida Development Commission the action of the Board in their minutes of December 1, 1960, regarding the City Plan now 9 months overdue with less than one -half of it presented and the lack of constructive leadership in the review of the Zoning Ordinance, the Chairman opened the floor to discussion. Chairman McRibbin explained that he felt responsible in some way for this plan and had helped to get it underway, plus a responsibility for the signing of the contract and the payments of taxpayeir`s money for the Comprehensive Plan. Mr. Gainer suggested that possibly instead of going back over the seasons as to why the plan was not .finished, it would be better to outline the actual work and what is to be expected in the future, or consider the future and what the City will have to look forward to. Mr. Simons told the Board that the "actual writing" of the reports is the biggest delay so far. He stated that writers are hard to find and he needs writers who can understand planning. He reviewdjd for the Board the outline of Mr. Dake's work here in Sanford; Mr. Dake meeting with the Board when feasible; and, his meeting with the Board at different time. He also stated that besides the No..2 Tentative Zoning Ord. and Volume I, he has completed the Major Street Plan; Central. Business District Plan and the Land Use Map, with 2 sections left to complete. Mr. Simons told the Board that during the month of January he would produce the "completed" plan. He mentioned that all map work was completed. In regards to the $5,500 that the City has paid, Mr. Simons stated that he, himself, had $6,000 invested in the Sanford plan, but had not received "one red cent" from the State; he has not billed the State for any monies, and would not until he is finished with the plan. He felt that in certain sections of the program that he is making good progress and further that, never had he in any contract had any specific deadline. Mr. Simons mentioned that before Federal funds were available and the bulk of the work was not as heavy then as it is today, he may have made the statement Z&P Minute s 3 12/29/60 that the Mork could be produced within a 365 -day period. In further statements to the Board, Mr. Simons said that good planners to work in his office are hard to find as they are in demand all over; and that he was late approximately 8 months with his Orlando program and that he had been late on all the 701 progr,ams . Mr. Harris stated that, in his opinion of the finished and submitted Volume I the City was not receiving what he thought they were going to receive; that he was under the impression.that the City was going to get something "tailored" for Sanford and that the copy the city received could have seen a mimeographed form that could have been copied from use elsewhere. Mr. Harris was not satisfied with the quality of the report. Also, that no where in the Volume I report is there any mention of a feasi- bility.of,9 to 1 over the costs for a Sanford - Titusville Canel. Mr. Simons stated that the majority of statistics is obtained from the Bureau of the Census and the Florida State Employment Offices. Mr. Harris felt that there was a definite clash of material between the report and what has been proven by and what the papers can do with this material in telling the people. In answer to several questions by Commissioner Baker, Mr. Gainer mentioned that the State Planning Department also was .experiencing the same technical problem of finding qualified planners; and that periodic checks were made by the Florida Development Commission with the Planner through calls, etc. Since the work is long overdue, Commissioner Crapps questioned the legality of the contract as to .. could the City break the contract pow and the fact if the City had received $5,500 worth of work to date. It was felt by the City C6mmissioners and the Zoning and Planning Members that they should not be expected to sit as a "board.oflexperts" to catch the different things in the report that might bring up a question as to its legality or a proven factor. Mr.'Dake spoke and stated that Mr. Simons had to let or release one employee, who could not do planning work, yet had a Master's Degree in this field. Also, that Volume I was intended to be brief. t &P Minutes. 12/29/60 4 Chalirma.n McKibbin stated that since the City Commission had promised a full-time planner to keep the plan in action and not just sit on the shelf and gather dust that, the Board wants something that can be used and applied. Mr., S,..mons mentioned that, under present-day conditions, the fee was not adequate and no soncultations are required under the contract with the Development Commission. Mr., Harris further stated that for what has been received, other than maps, the Board could have borrowed an Orlando Zoning Ordinance and copied it and gotten statistics from the Chamber of Commerce. Mr.� Simons further stated that he felt that he had gone beyond the agreement of the contract. Mr. Knowles stated t applies to the people of t plan fits the City and the However, the important and the community. at when making up any City Plan, 90% e community helping in order that the other 10% is technical application. main factor is ... The.plan must fit Mr Gainer felt that it might be well to establish a possible deadline and if work is not satisfactorily completed by this time, that the ''City Commission take "postive "action as they might suggest. Chairman McKibbin suggested that a possible solution could be obtained by Mr Simons and Mr. Gainer getting together and offer a deadline setup for consideration by the City Commission. In concluding the discussion, Mr. Gainer suggested the following: .. He, Mr. Gainer, and Mr. Simons meet together regardin a schedule to be presented to the City Commission at their meeting on January 4, 1961, stating postive completion date, with an extension of the Consultant's services to review it with the Planning Board and the City Commission and then final consulting with the Florida Development Commission for acceptance or revisions. ......... w r F� 1 L'" Ld a. Cb M O O co 0 x IM L 'I 10 m W Q') d LL] n 66 0 O O M Z &P Minut6s 5 12/29/6.0 The Board was in agreement with the recommendation presented by Mr. Gainer. Commissioner Wilson commended the Board on their extensive review work of the Tentative Zoning Ordinance. There being no further business, the meeting adjourned. Chairman Secretary