09.02.93A G E N D A
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
Meeting September 2, 1993
City Hall
City Commission Conference Room
300 N. Park Avenue
Sanford, Florida
4:30 P.M.
I. Call to-order and Roll Call
II. Excused /Unexcused Absences
III. Approval of Minutes
August 5, 1993
IV. Board Appointments
V. Conditional Use Request in Historic District
VI. Discussion Regarding Year End Budget Options
VII. Update on Mainstreet Program
Hal Welch & Chris Cranias
VIII. Other Business
(a) Code Enforcement All members are
encouraged to turn in potential code
violations in writing to Penny Turner at
the close of the meeting.
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M I N U T E S
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING
September 2, 1993
4:30 P.M.
City Commission Conference Room
City Hall, Sanford,
Members Present:
Monte Olinger, Chairman
Kay Bartholomew
Altermese Bentley
Cal Conklin
Jerry Mills
Kevin Stubbs
011ie Williams
Members Absent:.
Chris Cranias .
Elizabeth Simons
Laura Straehla'
Hal Welch -
Others in Attendance:
Penny Turner, Secretary
The Meeting was called to order by the Chairman, Monte Olinger, at
4:40 P.M.
The Board recognized Ms. Simons' absence as excused.
Jerry Mills moved. to approve the Minutes of August 5, 1993.
Seconded by 011ie Williams and carried by unanimous vote..:
Discussion was held regarding the terms of Jerry Mills, Monte
Olinger and Hal Welch expiring October 28, 1993. The consensus of
the Board was to re- appoint Jerry Mills, Monte Olinger and Hal
Welch to serve another term. It requested that the... Secretary
contact Hal Welch to determine if he will serve another term.-
The Board reviewed the Conditional Use Application to
remove /demolish the building at 422 Palmetto Avenue. The Board
discussed removing a contributing structure in the Residential
Historic District for a parking lot. Mr. Mills made the following
points for preserving the structure:
1) There is evidence from another church in town that if
they expand capability for parking it will destroy the
integrity of the historic building materials, as evident
between 5th & 6th Street and Park & Oak Avenue where all
but one is gone plus the Cultural Arts Building.
2) The Southwest corner of the block in question is the
Northwest corner of 5th Street and Magnolia Avenue.
There are no empty spots along that block, there are all
historical homes, in spite of the size or value or
present appearance it is a complete block.
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3) From "A Chronology of the Development of the City of
Sanford, with major emphasis on early. growth.." 1975,
page 6. The date is 1878 -in October, James Ingraham, in
order to raise property values and ultimately.make more
money for H.S. Sanford, sold lots on the block between -
fourth and Fifth Streets and Magnolia and Palmetto.
Avenues for an extremely low $40.00 per lot, inf ldencing
the increased construction of residences there, thus
raising property values on the surrounding blocks.
Jerry Mills moved to recommend denial to demolish the house based
on the three'previous points. Seconded by Kevin Stubbs and under
discussion Mr. Stubbs stated another point is that the Board is set
up to promote,.preserve the historic character of these areas, he
felt that the Board could not give support taking down a.historic
structure that has some contributing factor to :that area and
replace it with a parking -lot . (the maximum of gaining 8 parking
spaces) that has none.
Mr. Mills gave an example of how a house can be redone. A house to
the North of that present parking lot was in dismal shape in 1965.
and now looks almost brand new. He stated even if'the structure is
small' and unornamented it is one of the historic stock of
buildings. A precedent may be set to. take advantage in the future
to continue to expand and demolish , more -historic structures.
Mr. Conklin expressed concern that one of the charges in the
Board's Ordinance has to do with cultural well being and economic
development. He explained one issue is that there is a church that
is a credit to the community and needs sufficient parking as
opposed to preserving the historic structure.
Mr. Mills restated the motion that the Board is proposing a J ~
negative recommendation for the request to remove and demolish the
house for a parking lot. The motion was carried by the vote as
follows:
Kay Bartholomew Aye
Altermese Bentley Aye
Cal Conklin Nay
Jerry Mills Aye
Monte Olinger Aye
Kevin. Stubbs Aye
011ie Williams Aye
The Board expressed their appreciation of having major church
congregations downtown and the Board in no way wants the above
motion to be regarded as something that diminishes the desire to
have churches downtown. The churches downtown are great historic
structures and are really good to have downtown but there is a
concern about expanding into a residential district and taking away
the historic building stock.
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Discussion was held regarding the Historic Preservation's FY 92/93
Year End Budget Options. Mr. Marder explained. that $1,300 will be
carried over for Brenda.Elliots.' Georgetown/ Goldsboro Community
Survey Contract. It was requested that Ms Elliot submit a report
on the status of the contract completion for the October 7, 1993,
Meeting. Mr. Marder recommended that $2;000 of the budget be
carried over for the Waterfront program.
Jerry Mills moved to approve the carry, over of $2,000 for the
Waterfront Program from the Historic Preservation's FY 92/93
Budget. Seconded by Mrs. Bartholomew and carried by unanimous
vote.
Mrs. Bartholomew informed .the Board that Sanford was awarded by the
State the designation. as a Florida Main Street City. The Secretary
of State is scheduled to arrive in Sanford to present 'the
certificate to officially designate Sanford -a Main-Ztreet City.
Mrs. Bartholomew announced that there will be a Florida Main Street
Basic Training Workshop by the National Main Street Center October
7 & 8, 1993. Mrs. Bartholomew stated she will be attending the
workshop and is requesting an excused absence from the October 7th
meeting. She recommended that other members attend the workshop if
possible.
Jerry Mills made a motion to adjourn the Meeting. Seconded by
Altermese Bentley and carried by unanimous vote.
There being no further business before the Board,the meeting was
adjourned at 5:35 P.M.
Respectfully submitted by: Penny L.-Turner