01.06.94HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
Meeting January 6, 1994
City Hall
City Commission Conference Room
300 N. Park Avenue
Sanford, Florida
4:30 P.M.
I. Call to Order and Roll Call
II. Introduce New Member
III. Excused /Unexcused Absences
IV. Approval of Minutes
a) December 2, 1993
b) December 13, 1993
V. Application for Certificate of Appropriateness
801 South Park - Painting House
VI. Discussion Regarding Schedule for Meetings
(dates, times & interim meeting)
VII. Update on Georgetown /Goldsboro Community Survey
Brenda Elliott
V- on the Waterfront Master Plan
Jerry Mills
IX. Update on the old Sanford Regulations
X. Authorization to Proceed with Reprinting the
Historic Downtown Walking Tour Brochure
XI. other Business
a) Code Enforcement - All members are
encouraged to turn in potential code
violations in writing to Penny Turner at
the close of the meeting.
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M I N U T E S
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING
January 6, 1994
4:30 P.M.
City Commission Conference Room
City Hall, Sanford, Florida
Members Present:
Kevin Stubbs, Chairman
Aitermese Bentley
Elizabeth Simons
Laura Sollien
Helen Stairs
Laura Straehla
011ie Williams
Members Absent:
Cal Conklin
Chris Cranias
Jerry Mills
Monte Olinger
Others in Attendance:
Jay Marder, City Liaison
Penny Turner, Secretary
The Meeting was called to order by the Chairman, Kevin Stubbs, at
4:40 P.M.
The Board welcomed Laura Sollien, as a new member to the Historic
Preservation Board.
The Board recognized Cal Conklin's, Jerry Mills', and Monte
Olinger's absences as excused.
Laura Straehla moved to approve the Minutes of December 3, 1993 and
the Minutes of December 13, 1993. Seconded by Helen Stairs and
carried by unanimous vote.
Rose Edgecomb, was present and submitted an Application for
Certificate of Appropriateness to attach signs to the building at
112 South Park Avenue.
Helen Stairs stated she represents the property and will have to
abstain from the vote.
Laura Straehla moved to approve the Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness to attach signs to the building at 112 South Park
Avenues. The following was approved:
1) Paint or sew a sign onto the awning, using white letters
in the Galena Letter Style. (Our Mother's Closet)
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2) Attach a 16" X 8 wood sign to the rear of the building
and a 48" X 12" wood sign under the awning perpendicular
to the structure, using white with black letters in the
Galena Letter Style.
3) Signs are to be professionally made.
Motion was seconded by Kevin Stubbs and carried as follows:
Kevin Stubbs
Aye
Helen
Stairs
abstain
Altermese Bentley
Aye
Laura
Straehla
Aye
Elizabeth Simons
Aye
011ie
Williams
Aye
Laura Sollien
Aye
Brenda Elliott was present and
reported on
the Georgetown/ Goldsboro
Community Survey. She
has delivered to
the City of
Sanford the
following:
1} Site files and photographs, for Georgetown, which are
from the original Seminole County Black Community Survey
done by Yeilding & Provost. The City paid to procure
these documents from the Orange County Historical
Society.
2) Site files for Goldsboro and 5 new site files Georgetown.
3) 4 bond copies of the report - (3 copies to go to the
State and 1 copy for the City's records).
4) 2 National Register Nominations - the Georgetown
Nomination and the Goldsboro Nomination.
Ms. Elliott reported that the Georgetown Nomination was based on
the original Seminole County Black Community Survey done by
Yeilding and Provost. At that time the original survey was done
she was a staff person with the Orange County Historical Society
and did the historical research for the survey, but did not do the
architectural assessment, the field site files, nor the final site
files, which were done by the contractor. Yeilding & Provost was
contracted by the Orange County Historical Society to conduct the
Architectural Survey for 500 structures in the Seminole County
Black Community. The first survey was based on architectural
integrity under the State's old criteria for determining structures
to be contributing or non- contributing in a district. The criteria
changed in January of 1992 from architectural integrity to a
structure 50 years or older determines whether it is contributing
or non - contributing. Ms. Elliott explained that there needs to be
a 60% or more concentration to define a district. In Georgetown
the structures and concentration is there but were never
documented. Ms. Elliott stated she was hired to survey the
unsurveyed portion of Goldsboro and to do a National Register
Nomination for Georgetown and Goldsboro. She was not engaged to
resurvey Georgetown. She did resurveyed Goldsboro and picked up an
additional 32 structures to give enough structures to make a solid
survey. She picked up 5 important structures for the Georgetown
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Survey to give the nomination the balance it needed. Those
structures are the �Upiter Lodge, Evergreen Masonic Lodge and 3
churches. She indicated that she spent months trying to resolve
the district problem and after obtaining the contractors
administrative files she discovered that during the first survey
several structures were eliminated in order to stay within the
scope of their contract.
Due to historic reasons the boundaries for Goldsboro were reduced
based on the original incorporated boundaries. It was an
incorporated City in 1891. It was the second incorporated Black
City in Florida and the third in the nation. Bill Thurston, the
National Register Nomination Chief, is aware of the district
situation and feels confident that the Goldsboro Nomination can be
pushed through based on its historical significance.
Discussion was held regarding the field site files for the 71
structures that were eliminated from the first Georgetown Survey.
Ms. Elliott informed the Board that she believes that Donna
Logston, who did the actual field survey work for Yeilding &
Provost, still has the files with her in Kentucky. The Orange
County Historical Society has possession of the negatives and
photographs for these structures. The Board discussed contacting
Sara Vansardell, Executive Director of the Orange County Historical
Society to pursue obtaining the field survey work from Ms. Logston.
Mr. Marder asked Ms. Elliott what the. cost would be document the
structures in the Georgetown area. She stated it could probably be
done for approximately $1000. That cost is based on $15 a record
and the City purchasing the film and processes it.
Ms. Elliott stated that the City making ST James A.M.E. Church a
Landmark was more important and more significant than being on the
National Register Listing of Historic Places. The City can expand
the boundaries as a Landmark District in excess of the National,
Register District.
Ms. Elliott stated that the Nominations for Goldsboro and
Georgetown are ready to be sent to the State. Mrs. Turner has been
Provided with all of the instructions to forward the nominations to
the State. Ms. Elliott will still go to Tallahassee and represent
the City by doing a slide show and a sales pitch for both
districts. She stated that any or all of the Board can attend to
provide support.
Mr. Stubbs stated that the Board appreciated all of her efforts and
thoroughness in doing this project.
011ie Williams made a motion to accept the report as presented and
approved following through with sending the Nominations to
Tallahassee. Seconded by Laura Sollien and carried by unanimous
vote.
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Mr. Stubbs informed the Board that the Architectural Regulations
for the Residential Historic District unanimously passed the second
reading on December 27, 1993. This Board will now start to review
Applications for Certificate of Appropriateness related to the
structures in the Residential Historic District.
Hal Welch submitted an Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness to paint the house at 801 South Park Avenue.
The Board reviewed both options of paint choices submitted by Mr.
Welch. Discussion was held regarding a list of approved colors.
It was suggested that any color from any major paint manufactures
historic color line be acceptable. Mr. Stubbs stated he will
obtain the colors pallets for Mrs. Turner.
Laura Straehla moved to approve both color options on the
Application for Certificate of Appropriateness to paint the house
at 801 South Park Avenue and allow the applicant to choose which
combination to use. Seconded by Altermese Bentley and carried by
unanimous vote.
Discussion was held regarding changing the meeting time and /or date
due to conflict of work schedules for some of the members.
Laura Straehla made a motion to change the regular meeting time
from 4:30 P.M. to 5:00 P.M., it will remain on the first Thursday
of the month and to add an interim meeting which will be held the
third Thursday of the month at 5:00 P.M., only when needed.
Seconded by Kevin Stubbs and carried by unanimous vote.
Jay Marder updated the Board on the City of Sanford Waterfront
Master Plan. A sketch study was prepared by Andersen & Associates
and the City of Sanford Department of Engineering and Planning for
a joint project for the City of Sanford Waterfront Master Plan and
Sanford Main Street, Inc. The study was developed as somewhat as
a stepping stone plan. The intent and purpose besides identifying
the most likely and proper market to bring to the Downtown Sanford
Waterfront the goal of the planning effort is how to use realistic
market expectations to bring more activities and people into
Sanford to provide a well rounded activity base to serve both the
Waterfront and the Downtown. The existing Courthouse parking lot
and its future use is the key to the visual appearance and market
fabric of the Downtown Sanford Waterfront. The next implementation
steps that must be taken is mechanisms in terms of financing needs
to be looked into such as establishing a redevelopment area and tax
increment financing.
Discussion was held regarding the Sign Project for the Waterfront,
the Main Street and continuing in the Residential District. This
will give continuity in signage which is based on the welcome sign.
The bid for the Waterfront signage came in high. The Sanford
Waterfront Master Plan Steering Committee is looking into other
alternatives for mounting the signs.
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Mr. Marder apprised the Board that the Sanford Waterfront Master
Plan Steering Committee is looking into to getting the University
of Florida to do an Architectural School Studio Project based on
concepts linking the Waterfront to the downtown. Mr. .Stubbs
recommended promoting it to the University as a joint project
between the Planning Department and Architecture Department.
Discussion was held regarding the Walking Tour Brochures. Mrs.
Turner will compile a packet with corrections and submit for the
Board's approval.
Mrs. Straehla informed the Board that the Main Street Design
Committee would like to schedule a combination meeting with the
Board to go over the Main Street Guidelines.
There being no further business before the Board, the Meeting was
adjourned at 5:30 P.M.
Respectfully Submitted: Penny L. Turner