12.01.94A G E N D A
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
Meeting December 1, 1994
City Hall
City Commission Conference Room
300 N. Park Avenue
Sanford, Florida
4:30 P.M.
I. Call to Order and Roll Call
II. Excused /Unexcused Absences
III. Application for Certificate of Appropriateness
COMMERCIAL
a) 217 South Park Avenue - Signs, Capopy,
Building Graphics & Planters
b) 217 South Park Avenue - Fence
c) 230 North Park Avenue - Signs
d) 209 -B West First Street - Awning & Signs
e) 217 South Oak Avenue - Awning
RESIDENTIAL
a) 500 South Palmetto Avenue - window
b) 603 Oak Avenue - Doors
IV. Other Business
a) Code Enforcement - All members are encouraged
to turn in potential code violations in
writing to Penny Turner at the close of the
meeting.
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M I N U T E S
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING
December 1, 1994
4:30 P.M.
City Commission Conference Room
City Hall, Sanford, Florida
Members Present:
Cal Conklin
Chris Cranias
Margaret Frison
Jerry Mills
Michael Skat
Laura Sollien
Helen Stairs
Kevin Stubbs
011ie Williams
Monte Olinger
Members Absent:
Laura Straehla
Others in Attendance:
Russ Gibson, City Liaison
Penny Turner, Secretary
The Meeting was called to order by the Vice Chairman, Laura
Sollien, at 4:40 P.M. The Chairman was delayed.
The Board recognized Laura Straehla's as an excused absence.
Martin Rak, Vice President of Delco Oil, Inc., Fina Distributor for
the area, was present and submitted an Application for Certificate
to install signs, canopy, building graphics and planters at 217
South Park Avenue. Mr. Rak apologized to the Board for coming
before them after the fact. He stated that when this project was
started in July and he met with this Board he informed them he
would came back to discuss landscaping and signage. Since then he
has met with building officials, the Engineering Department, and
the Land Development Coordinator at the site a number of times.
After several of these meetings on site he got the impression that
they had the authority to do what they were telling them at that
time. He explained that he found out later that they still needed
to come before this Board for approval. Mr. Rak stated that one of
the concerns that came up was about the chain link fence with white
slates being against the regulations and that this Board requires
wood stockade fence. He explained the reason for the chain link
fence with the white slates is Fina's image as an oil company is
white clean bright image. Mr. Rak presented the Board with a
letter from the previous owner, Cumberland Farms that states there
was a chain link fence there before and also a letter from Fina
which talks about the image. Mr. Rak further explained that they
are limited as far as the graphics are concerned because of the
Fina's Registered Trademark.
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December 1, 1994
Page 2
The Board explained that they were aware and understood Fina's
trademarks but the chain link fence really doesn't have to do with
trademarks and is against the codes.
Discussion was held regarding the proposed signage and graphics on
the building not meeting the Sign Regulations. The Board is.not
opposed to the proposed planters. It was suggested that Mr. Rak
speak with Mr. Stubbs and Mr. Gibson throughout the month to
determine what alternatives are available for the signage and
graphics.
Jerry Mills moved to table items one and two on the Application for
Certification of Appropriateness for signs, canopy, building
graphics and planters for the property at 217 South Park Avenue
until the January 5, 1995, Meeting. This is not to prevent the
owner from opening; it is to have the owner discuss with Fina the
alternatives for signage, specifically the pole sign being to high,
the graphics on the side of the canopy and the building are too
large and a little too bold. Mr. Mills approved item 3 of the
application regarding the planters. Seconded by 011ie Williams and
motion was carried as follows:
Cal Conklin
Chris Cranias
Margaret Frison
Jerry Mills
Monte Olinger
Michael Skat
Aye
Aye
Aye
Aye
Nay
Aye
Laura
Sollien
Aye
Helen
Stairs
Aye
Kevin
Stubbs
Aye
011ie
Williams
Aye
Martin Rak, Vice President of Delco Oil, Inc., Fina Distributor for
the area, was present and submitted an Application for Certificate
to replace the existing chain link fence at 217 South Park Avenue.
Mr. Rak is requesting that the existing chain link fence be
replaced with a new chain link fence with white slates to improve
security and beautify the property. He provided the Board with a
letter from the previous owner Cumberland Farms that there was
previously a fence on the north side of the property. Mr. Rak
stated he had not seen the original fence.
Harvey Butler, Advance Canvas, was present and expressed his
concern regarding the chain link fence at 217 Soutlz Park Avenue.
He owns the business on the corner of Third Street and Magnolia
Avenue and the fence is in his back yard. He stated that he felt
that the fence is obtrusive, it blocks view from the back of his
shop, but more importantly he feels it becomes a safety problem
whereas Police Officers in the area cannot properly patrol.
Chris Cranias made a motion to deny the Application for Certificate
of Appropriateness erect a chain link fence at 217 South Park
Avenue. Seconded by Monte Olinger and after further discussion Cal
Conklin called for the question. Motion was carried unanimously.
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December 1, 1994
Mr. Rak stated clarified with the Board that he was to speak with
Mr. Stubbs and Mr. Gibson regarding alternatives for the signage
and building graphics before the January 5, 1995 Meeting. He asked
if there was an appeal process for the Board's decision. The Board
explained that there was and he would need to appeal to the City
Commission.
Richard L. Mamele submitted an Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness to replace the reserved parking signs on the
building at 230 North Park Avenue. Applicant was not present.
Jerry Mills moved to approve the Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness to replace the reserved parking signs on the
building at 230 North Park Avenue. Seconded by Chris Cranias and
carried by unanimous vote.
Pazaria Smith, with Starlite Tutorial Academy & Learning Center,
was present and submitted an Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness to erect an awning and a window sign on the
building at 209B West First Street.
Kevin Stubbs moved to approve the Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness to erect an awning and a window sign on the
building at 209B West First Street. Seconded by 011ie Williams and
carried by unanimous vote.
Willie B. Sherman, Jr., D.D.S., submitted and Application for
Certificate of Appropriateness to install a back light awning
matching the color of the building at 217 South Oak Avenue.
Applicant was not present.
Kevin Stubbs moved to approve the Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness to attach the awning as submitted as long as the
width of the awning does not exceed the width of the building
facade, the bottom of the awning is lined up with the top of the
windows, the material is either cloth or vinyl. The back lighting
is not approved and the lettering styles must adhere to the pre -
approved lettering styles. Discussion was held regarding the
dimensions of the awning. Mr. Stubbs attached a recommendation to
his motion that the depth of the awning proportionally be 3ft
instead of 2f t. Seconded by Monte Olinger and carried by unanimous
vote.
Martha Wells submitted an Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness to replace a window with a stained glass windows at
500 South Palmetto Avenue. Applicant was not present. Mr. Gibson
informed the Board that when Ms. Wells submitted the application
she indicated she would be here with the actual stained glass
window. Mrs. Turner 'spoke with Ms. Wells and she is unable to
attend. Mrs. Turner informed the Board that Mrs. Wells stated that
the stained glass came from an old church and the reason she is
putting this window in is for security and leak reason.
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December 1, 1994
Jerry Mills moved to table the Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness to replace the window at 500 South Palmetto Avenue
until the applicant can provide further information and explain how
the window will be installed. Seconded by Kevin Stubbs and carried
by unanimous vote.
Kay Bartholomew' submitted an Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness to install french doors on the building at 603 Oak
Avenue. Mrs. Turner informed the Board that Ms. Bartholomew has
requested that the Board delay review of this application until
their January 5, 1995, Meeting. She as additional information as
well as more items for the Board to review.
Mr. Mills suggested that the Historic Preservation Board or the
Sanford Historic Trust begin developing a list of sub- contractors
to assist building owners.
There being no further business before the Board the Meeting was
adjourned.
Respectfully Submitted: Penny L. Turner