11.09.95AGENDA
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
Meeting November 9, 1995
City Hall
City Commission Conference Room
300 N. Park Avenue
Sanford, Florida
4:30 P.M.
I. Call to Order and Roll Call
II. Excused /Unexcused Absences
III. Welcome New Members - Catheryn Welch
IV. Approval of Minutes
October 12, 1995
V. Applications for Certificate of Appropriateness
COMMERCIAL
a) 217 South Park Avenue (Sobik's Subs) - Signage &
Site Plan Review - Previously Tabled
b) 101 East First Street (First Union Bank) - ATM Lighting
c) 204 N. Park Avenue Suite 104 - Hanging Sign
d) 120 South Park Avenue - Planters and Landscaping
e) 105 East First Street (McCrory's) - Facade Renovation
VI. Applications for Certificate of Appropriateness
RESIDENTIAL
a) 308 East Fifth Street - Exterior Renovations -
Previously Tabled
b) 207 East Tenth Street - Exterior Renovations -
Previously Tabled
c) 506 Palmetto Avenue - Remodel Proposal
d) 609 Magnolia Avenue - Re -roof with 5V Crimp
e) 911 Palmetto Avenue - Block in Basement Window
Openings
f) 607 Oak Avenue - Replace Windows & Install 6'
Stockade Fence
g) 823 Park Avenue - Relocate Front Door and Window
to Original Location
h) 1116 Magnolia Avenue - Install Lattice Wall & Vines
VII. Acknowledgement of Minor Review Committee Actions
a) 500 South Oak Avenue - Rebuild Porch Overhang
b) 301 South Oak Avenue - Re -roof
c) 118 Sanford Avenue - Construct Stairs and Landing
d) 120 South Park Avenue - Revised Parking Plan
VIII. Meeting with Sanford Post Master - Mr. Tom Pierce
IX. Review Draft Amendments to Schedule S Regarding Mailboxes
and Newspaper Receptacles - Endorsement
X. HPB Review Schedule
XI. Code Enforcement Actions
XII. Newspaper Receptacle Update
XIII. Goldsboro District National Register Nomination Update
XIV. National Preservation Conference Report
XV. Other Business
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ADDENDUM TO HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD AGENDA
November 9, 1995
VI. Applications for Certificate of Appropriateness
RESIDENTIAL
i) 1104 South Magnolia Avenue - Install 6' Privacy Fence
MINUTES
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
CITY COMMISSION CONFERENCE ROOM
CITY HALL
NOVEMBER 9, 1995
4:30 P.M.
I. Call to Order and Roll Call:
The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Laura
Sollien at 4:40 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Paul Porter
Don Moore
Helen Stairs
Michael Skat
Laura Sollien
Margaret Frison
Jerry Mills
Kimberly Capucille
Cathryn Welch
Chris Cranias
II. MEMBERS ABSENT:
Buck Mullins
OTHERS PRESENT:
Tom Pierce, Sanford Post Master
Andrew VanGaale, Associate Planner
Jay Marder, Director of Planning and Development
Marion Anderson, Recording Secretary
III• Welcome New Members:
Laura Sollien welcomed Cathryn Welch to the Board.
IV. MINUTES:
Mr. Skat noted that he was opposed to the motion to
approve the installation of a pool and the screened
enclosure for 407 Magnolia Avenue, on October 12th. Mr.
Moore noted that the Walking Tour Brochure List and not
the Walking Tour Brochures, is out of date. With the
noted changes, Mr. Skat moved to approve the Minutes as
amended. Seconded by Mr. Moore. All in favor. Motion
carried.
V. Applications for Certificates of Appropriateness:
COMMERCIAL:
a) 217 South Park Avenue ( Sobik' s Subs) - Signage & Site
Plan Review - Previously Tabled:
Barkley Smith was present representing Sobik's Subs. Mr.
Skat moved to approve contingent upon the sign complying
with the Codes (18" high) and that Staff review the
existing signage; and if Fina is maxed out on signage,
then they will have to make room. Seconded by Mrs.
Welch. Mr. Smith explained that the sign material,
Accrasteel, is not a steel but a polymer, basically the
same material that the Fina signs are made of. Mr. Skat
amended his motion that the sign be 18 11 x3' with Staff to
review the total signage, and if the total signage is
exceeded, then the sign doesn't go up. Seconded by Mrs.
Welch. Mr. Moore opposed to the motion. All others in
favor. Motion carried.
b) 101 East First Street (First Union Bank) - ATM
Lighting: No representative. Mr. Porter moved for
approval. Seconded by Mr. Cranias. All in favor.
Motion carried.
c) 204 N. Park Avenue Suite 104 - Hanging Sign: Scott
J. Gilger was present for representation. He explained
that the size of the sign will be 3x2, have a rustic look
and would be doublesided, green with two gold stripes.
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The sign will be approximately 14' above the canopy. Mr.
Mills abstained from voting because he was not sure the
applicant could advertise architectural design services
without being licensed as a registered architect. Mr.
Mills stated that he would research this. Don Doer,
architect, stated that the problem with the State Board
of Architecture would be with the word "architectural".
Design services only would do it, but by using the word
"architectural" the applicant would be putting himself in
a category without a license. Mr. Cranias moved to
approve if the sign can proportionally fit within the
guidelines. seconded by Mrs. Stairs. Mr. Porter stated
that he has to cut the sign down to not more than 4-
square feet. Mr. Mills abstained. All others in favor.
Motion carried.
d) 120 South Park Avenue - Planters and Landscaping: No
representative. Mr. VanGaale passed around some pictures
and stated that they would be installing whiskey barrel
type planters. Mr. Mills moved to approve. Seconded by
Ms. Capucille. All in favor. Motion carried.
e) 105 East First Street (Mc.Crory's) - Facade
Renovation: Lisa Nason, 900 Magnolia Avenue, was present
for representation. She stated that the facade
renovation is for the entire McCrory's building. She
requested to reserve the right that the previous use has
been demonstrated as being used as. a balcony on second
floor. Mr. Mills stated that it is not a matter of
reserving a right, but it is a matter of discovering what
is there and coming back before this Board as to what is
to be done. Ms. Nason stated that she would keep the
application the way it is; to keep the canopy, in tact,
with an identical or coordinated awning. Mr. Mills moved
to approve. Seconded by Mr. Skat. All in favor. Motion
carried.
VI. Applications for Certificate of Appropriateness:
Residential:
a) 308 East Fifth Street - Exterior Renovations: -
Previously Tabled: No representative. Mr. VanGaale
stated that he did receive some follow -up information
from the State stating that this is a certified rehab
project. Mr. Skat moved for approval contingent upon
minor review of the colors. Seconded by Mr. Moore. All
in favor. Motion carried.
b) 207 East Tenth Street Exterior Renovations -
Previously Tabled: Because there was no representation
and due to the fact that it is hard to get a feel for
what the applicants are trying to accomplish, Mr. Skat
moved to table. Seconded by Mrs. Stairs. Mr. Mills
stated that he would make a valiant attempt, if his
schedule allows, to get with Mr. VanGaale and the owner
to try to understand what all they have done. He
requested that someone familiar with the house accompany
him. All in favor. Motion carried.
c) 506 Palmetto Avenue Remodel Proposal: Don Doer,
301B Park Ave., Winter Park, was present for
representation. He stated that he was requesting
approval of the submitted schematic design. He requested
approval to start doing some work on the covered porch,
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to take off the lean -to addition and remove the chimney
while the final drawings are being prepared. Mr. Mills
moved to approve the request with the condition that the
architect speak with a structural engineer about the
possibility of retaining the chimney from the attic space
up. Mr. Skat seconded. During discus.sion, as an
alternative, it was decided that the architect would look
into duplicating the chimney using the existing
materials. Mr. Mills restated his motion and moved to
approve as submitted with the condition that the chimney
will either be retained from the attic up or rebuilt
exactly as it exists, and adding a porch to the back
where the lean -to will be removed. All in favor. Motion
carried.
d) 609 Magnolia Avenue - Re -roof with 5V Crimp: No
representative. Mr. Skat moved to approve. Seconded by
Ms. Capucille. All in favor. Motion carried.
e) 911 Palmetto Avenue - Block in Basement window
Openings: No representative. Mr. Mills moved to
approve. Seconded by Mr. Moore. All in favor. Motion
carried.
f) 607 Oak Avenue - Replace Windows & Install 6'
Stockade Fence: Suzanna Dean Hill was present for
representation. She stated that she has not checked on
either the double -hung nor the casement windows.
Whatever she decides on will have small panes and would
not be aluminum. The stockade fence will be just inside
the existing chain link fence. Ms. Capucille moved to
approve replacing the jalousie windows with glass
windows, of applicant's choosing, as long as they are
wood frame and the fence to come to the front corner of
the house. Seconded by Mr. Mills. Brady Lasard, 1111
Magnolia, stated that it is important that the Board and
citizens understand the restraints on fences. All in
favor. Motion carried.
g) 823 Park Avenue - Relocate Front Door and Window to
Original Location: No representative. Mr. VanGaale
stated that the replacement door that was purchased by
the owners predates the home. The entrance will face
Park Avenue when completed. Mr. Skat moved to approve.
Seconded by Mr. Porter. All in favor. Motion carried.
h) 1116 Magnolia Avenue - Install Lattice Wall & Vines:
Mr. Skat stated that he would like to install a lattice
wall on the north side of the property to shield the
chain link fence and normal maintenance because the gate
has been damaged. Mr. Skat agreed that if at any time
the fence is removed, the lattice wall would be removed
also. Mr. Cranias moved to approve.. Seconded by Mrs.
Stairs. Mr. Skat abstained. All others in favor.
Motion carried.
ADDENDUM: 1104 Magnolia Avenue.: Mr. VanGaale stated
that this item was sent to Code Enforcement last month
because conditions of a previous C of A were not met.
The applicants are scheduled to go before Code
Enforcement on December 12th. He stated that he was
hoping to resolve this matter and avoid Code Enforcement
action by coming up with a solution.
The applicants are proposing to paint the fence: a deep
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rose color and are proposing to paint the house Pine
Grove Green. The proposed fence will be behind the chain
link fence. Ms. Capucille moved to deny the request for
a 6' fence on the front, because the height is over the
Code; the fence can be up to 54 11 , it can be wood and can
be block on the bottom; and the 6' chain link fence will
have to be lowered in the front. Mrs. Welch seconded.
Don Moore opposed. All others in favor. Motion carried.
The paint color for the fencing was not included in the
motion and was not approved.
Mr. Cranias stated that due to the growing audience that
this Board entertains at each meeting, the residential
applications are becoming more intense and there are
quite a few more being reviewed. He suggested that the
Board be turned into 1) a business district and 2) a
residential district. He requested that the Board
members consider this. Mr. VanGaale stated that it would
be easier to meet twice a month. Mrs. Sollien requested .
that this be placed on the next agenda.
VII. Acknowledgement of Minor Review Committee Actions:: Mr.
Skat moved to approve the Minor Review Committee Actions.
Seconded by Mr. Porter. All in favor. Motion carried.
VIII. Meeting with Sanford Post Master - Mr. Tom Piercer Toby
Troutman, 900 S. Palmetto, asked if the residents of the
Historic District had to change their mail boxes to
curbside mailboxes. Mr. Pierce stated "no ", they do not.
He stated that once the mail boxes are converted, the
Post Office takes the position that they can't be taken
back to the house. Mr. Pierce stated that he would speak
with the mail carriers, that could be identified, that
has indicated that residents' mail would be held or their
mail will not be delivered because they did not have a
curbside receptacle. Mr. Pierce stated that the Post
Office has decided not to buy anymore mail boxes for the
Historic District. He agreed to listen to citizens, on
a case by case basis, who have installed curbside mail
receptacles due to indication of Postal Employees.
IX. Review Draft Amendments to Schedule: S Regarding Mailboxes
and Newspaper Receptacles - Rnrinr sement: Mr. Skat moved
to approve the language in the Amendments to Schedule S.
Seconded by Ms. Capucille. Mr. Porter stated that he did
not think it was necessary, it looks like the language
that is in there covers it, that it may tend to limit
other things. Mr. Porter stated that it should read
"examples include but are not limited to ". Mr. Skat
withdrew his motion. Mr. Porter moved to change the
language to read "examples include but are not limited
to ". Seconded by Ms. Capucille. All in favor. Motion
carried.
X. HPB Review Schedule: Mr. VanGaale stated that it is a
schedule to inform applicants when materials need to be
submitted.
XI. Code Enforcement Actions: Two issues were sent to Code
Enforcement: 914 Park Avenue and 1104 S. Magnolia Avenue.
Mr. Angle of 914 Park Avenue is schedule to appear before
the Code Enforcement Board on December 12th. 1104 S.
Magnolia Avenue has. been issued a new C of A and does not
have to appear before Code Enforcement.
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XII. Newspaper Receptacle Update: Mr. VanGaale stated that
the City Manager is working with the City Attorney
regarding this issue. Mrs. Stairs is to get with Main
Street to see if they have any input relative to the
placement of newspaper receptacles.
XIII. Goldsboro District National Register Nomination Update:.
Mr. VanGaale stated that he has very diligently been
working on redoing the Goldsboro Historic District Map.
He has also contacted the Division of State Department of
Historic Resources and two gentlemen will be here on the
14th and 15th to physically walk through the Goldsboro
District to take slides, rework the nomination and
hopefully get it recognized or registered as a historic
district. Mr. VanGaale stated that he would try to get
them to walk through Georgetown also.
XIV. National Preservation Conference Report: Mr. VanGaale
reported that much of the conference was geared towards
a taking issue and legal property rights. He visited
Grapevine, Texas and found their marketing package very
impressive. Grapevine closes off their Mainstreet every
year for a Grapevine Festival. The charge is $3.00 and
all monies go back into the Downtown Historic Trust Fund.
He picked up some information on African American
Heritage groups with certain organizations that could be
promising for some of our areas. He stated that he has
some information on Section 106, which is the National
Federal Review for whenever a federal entity works on
historic property that is national register listed, they
also have to adhere. to local standards.
r There being no further business, the meeting adjourned. at
7:20 P.M.
FORM 8B MEMORANDUM OF VOTING CONFLICT FOR
COUNTY, MUNICIPAL, AND OT HER LOCAL PUBLIC OFFICERS
LAST NA E -FIRST NA IE- MIDDLE NAME
MAILING AD RESS
341 N. Maitland Ave Ste 130 MaITLAND FL
CITY COUNTY
DATE ON WHICH VOTE OCCURRED
11/9/95
NAME OF BOARD, COUNCIL, COMMISSION, AUTHORITY, OR COMMITTEE
Historic Preserv Board
IHE BOARD, COUNCIL, COMMISSION, AUTHORITY, OR COMMITTEE ON
WHICH 1 SERVE IS A UNIT OF:
X C'I I Y .: COUNTY ' ' OTHER LOCAL AGENCY
NAME OF POLITICAL SUBDIVISION:
City of Sanford
MY POSITION IS:
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WHO MUST FILE FORM 86
This form is for use by any person serving at the county, city, or other local level of government on an appointed or elected board,
council, commission, authority, or committee. It applies equally to members of advisory and non - advisory bodies who are presented
with a voting conflict of interest under Section 112.3143, Florida Statutes. The requirements of this law are mandatory; although
the use of this particular form is not required by law, you are encouraged to use it in making the disclosure required by law.
Your responsibilities under the law when faced with a measure in which you have a conflict of interest will vary greatly depending
on whether you hold an elective or appointive position. For this reason, please pay close attention to the instructions on this form
before completing the reverse side and filing the form.
INSTRUCTIONS FOR COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 112.3143, FLORIDA STATUTES
ELECTED OFFICERS:
A person holding elective county, municipal, or other local public office MUST ABSTAIN from voting on a measure which inures
to his special private gain. Each local officer also is prohibited from knowingly voting on a measure which inures to the special
gain of a principal (other than a government agency) by whop) he is retained.
In either case, you should disclose the conflict:
PRIOR TO THE VOTE BEING TAKEN by publicly stating to the assembly the nature of your interest in the measure on
which you are abstaining from voting; and
WITHIN 15 DAYS AFTER THE VOTE OCCURS by completing and filing this form with the person responsible for recording
the minutes of the meeting, who should incorporate the form in the minutes.
APPOINTED OFFICERS:
A person holding appointive county, municipal, or other local public office MUST ABSTAIN from voting on a measure which.
inures to his special private gain. Each local officer also is prohibited from knowingly voting on a measure which inures to the
special gain of a principal (other than a government agency) by whom he is retained.
A person holding an appointive local office otherwise may participate in a matter in which he has a conflict of interest, but must
disclose the nature of the conflict before making any attempt to influence the decision by oral or written communication, whether
made by the officer or at his direction.
IF YOU INTEND TO MAKE ANY ATTEMPT TO INFLUENCE THE DECISION PRIOR TO THE MEETING AT WHICH
THE VOTE WILL BE TAKEN:
• You should complete and file this form (before making any attempt to influence the decision) with the person responsible for
recording the minutes of the meeting, who will incorporate the form in the minutes.
• A copy of the form should be provided immediately to the other members of the agency.
• The form should be read publicly at the meeting prior to consideration of the matter in which you have a conflict of interest
IF YOU MAKE NO ATTEMPT TO INFLUENCE THE DECISION EXCEPT BY DISCUSSION AT THE MEETING:
• You should disclose orally the nature of' your conflict in the measure before participating.
• You should complete the form and file it within 15 days after the vote occurs with the person responsible for recording the minutes
of the meeting, who should incorporate the form in the minutes.
DISCLOSURE OF LOCAL OFFICER'S INTEREST
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(a) A measure came or will come before my agency which (check one)
inured to my special private gain; or
inured to the special gain of
, by whom I am retained
(b) The measure before my agency and the nature of my interest in the measure is as follows:
Mr. Mills abstained from voting because he was not sure the applicant could
advertise architectural design services without being licensed as a registered
architect.
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Date Filed
NOTICE: UNDER PROVISIONS OF FLORIDA STATUTES §112.317 (1985), A FAILURE TO MAKE ANY REQUIRF
DISCLOSURE CONSTITUTES GROUNDS FOR AND MAY BE PUNISHED BY ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWIN
IMPEACHMENT, REMOVAL OR SUSPENSION FROM OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT, DEMOTION, REDUCTION
SALARY, REPRIMAND, OR A CIVIL PENALTY NOT TO EXCEED $5,000.
FORM 813 MEMORANDUM OF VOTING CONFLICT FOR
CO UNTY, MUNICIPAL, AND OTHER LOCAL PUBLIC OFFICERS
NA LAS LAM -FIRS] ME � N ME NAME OF BOARD, COUNCIL, COMMISSION, AUTHORITY, OR COMMITTEE
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1116 Magnolia Ave
X CI fY COUNTY ' 'OTHER LOCAL AGENCY
CITY C'OUN'TY NAME OF POLITICAL. SUBDIVISION:
Sanford Seminole
City of Sanford
DATE ON WHICH VOTE OCCURRED MY POSITION IS:
i,t ELECTIVE X APPOINTIVE
11/9/95
WHO MUST FILE FORM 86
This form is for use by any person serving at the county, city, or other local level of government on an appointed or elected board,
council, commission, authority, or committee. It applies equally to members of advisory and non - advisory bodies who are presented
with a voting conflict of interest under Section 112.3143, Florida Statutes. The requirements of this law are mandatory; although
the use of this particular form is not required by law, you are encouraged to use it in making the disclosure required by law.
Your responsibilities under the law when faced with a measure in which you have a conflict of interest will vary greatly
on whether you hold an elective or appointive position. For this reason, please pay close attention to the instructions on this form
before completing the reverse side and filing the form.
INSTRUCTIONS FOR COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 112.3143, FLORIDA STATUTES
ELECTED OFFICERS:
A person holding elective county, municipal, or other local public office MUST ABSTAIN from voting on a measure which inures
to his special private gain. Each local officer also is prohibited from knowingly voting on a measure which inures to the special
gain of a principal (other than a government agency) by whom he is retained.
In either case, you should disclose the conflict:
PRIOR TO THE VOTE BEING TAKEN by publicly stating to the assembly the nature of your interest in the measure on
which you are abstaining from voting; and
WITHIN 15 DAYS AFTER THE VOTE OCCURS by completing and filing this form with the person responsible for recording
the minutes of the meeting, who should incorporate the form in the minutes.
APPOINTED OFFICERS:
A person holding appointive county, municipal, or other local public office MUST ABSTAIN from voting on a measure which
inures to his special private gain. Each local officer also is prohibited from knowingly voting on a measure which inures to the
special gain of a principal (other than a government agency) by whom he is retained.
A person holding an appointive local office otherwise may participate in a matter in which he has a conflict of interest, but must
disclose the nature of the conflict before making any attempt to influence the decision by oral or written communication, whether
made by the officer or at his direction.
IF YOU INTEND TO MAKE ANY ATTEMPT TO INFLUENCE THE DECISION PRIOR TO THE MEETING AT WHICH
THE VOTE WILL BE TAKEN:
• You should complete and file this form (before making any attempt to influence the decision) with the person responsible fol
recording the minutes of the meeting, who will incorporate the form in the minutes.
• A copy of the form should be provided immediately to the other members of the agency.
• The form should be read publicly at the meeting prior to consideration Of the matter in which you have a conflict of interest
IF YOU MAKE NO ATTEMPT TO INFLUENCE THE DECISION EXCEPT BY DISCUSSION AT THE MEETING:
• You should disclose orally the nature of your conflict in the measure before participating.
• You should complete the form and file it within 15 days after the vote occurs with the person responsible for recording the minutes
of the meeting, who should incorporate the form in the minutes.
DISCLOSURE OF LOCAL OFFICER'S INTEREST
I, wl(cr44cz &CA—i , hereby disclose that on
(a) A measure came or will come before my agency which (check one)
inured to my special private gain; or
inured to the special gain of
11/9/95
(b) The measure before my agency and the nature of my interest in the measure is as follows:
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NOTICE: UNDER PROVISIONS OF FLORIDA STATUTES §112.317 (1985), A FAILURE TO MAKE ANY REQUIRI:
DISCLOSURE CONSTITUTES GROUNDS FOR AND MAY BE PUNISHED BY ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWIN
IMPEACHMENT, REMOVAL OR SUSPENSION FROM OFFICE OR EMPLOYMENT, DEMOTION, REDUCTION
SALARY, REPRIMAND, OR A CIVIL PENALTY NOT TO EXCEED $5,000.