10.12.95AGENDA
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
Meeting October 12, 1995
City Hall
City Commission Conference Room
300 N. Park Avenue
Sanford, Florida
4:30 P.M.
I. Call to Order and Roll Call
Il. Excused /Unexcused Absences
Ill. Welcome New Members
Cathryn Welch and Kimberly Capucille
IV. Approval of Minutes
September 7, 1995
V. Applications for Certificate of Appropriateness
COMMERCIAL
a) 200 West First Street (Sun Bank) - Signage
- See HPB Liaison for Site Plan
VI. Applications for Certificate of Appropriateness
RESIDENTIAL
a) 207 East Tenth Street - Exterior Modifications
b) 407 South Magnolia Avenue - Install Pool and Screened
Enclosure
c) 506 Palmetto Avenue - Remove Chimney
d) 719 South Myrtle Avenue - Re -open Front Porch
e) 705 Magnolia Avenue - Repair Stucco to Match Existing
f) 1118 Palmetto Avenue - Install Brick Driveway
VII. Acknowledgement of Minor Review Committee Actions
a) 209 East Fourth Street - Rebuild Porch
b) 120 South Park Avenue - Parking Site Plan
c) 601 Magnolia Avenue - Remove Boards on Windows
d) 102 East First Street - Re -Roof
VIII. Discussion Regarding 914 Park Avenue (yellow house - see letter)
IX. Discussion Regarding Newspaper -type Stands in Downtown (see memo)
X. Discussion Regarding 1104 Magnolia - Compliance with C of A
XI. Distribution List for Walking Tour Brochures
XII. Discussion Regarding Mail Boxes in Old Sanford Residential District
XIII. Other Business `
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ADDENDUM
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
Meeting October 12, 1995
City Hall
City Commission Conference Room
300 N. Park Avenue
Sanford, Florida
4:30 P.M.
V. Applications for Certificate of Appropriateness
COMMERCIAL
b);217 South Park Avenue - Signage and Site Plan Review
Sobik's Subs
RESIDENTIAL
f) 308 East Fifth Street - Exterior Rehabilitation
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CITY HALL
CITY COMMISSION CONFERENCE ROOM
OCTOBER 12, 1995
4:30 P.M.
I. Call to Order and Roll Call:
The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Laura Sollien
at 4:30 P.M.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Paul Porter
Don Moore
Helen Stairs
Michael Skat
Laura Sollien
Margaret Frison
011ie Williams
Jerry Mills
Kimberly Capucille
II. MEMBERS ABSENT:
Chris Cranias - Excused
Buck Mullins
OTHERS PRESENT:
Jay Marder, Director of Planning and Development
Marion Anderson, Recording Secretary
III. Welcome New Members:
Laura Sollien welcomed Kimberly Capucille and Cathryn Welch
to the Board.
IV. Approval of Minutes:
Helen Stairs moved to approve the Minutes of September 7,
1995 as circulated. Seconded by 011ie Williams. All in
favor. Motion carried.
V. Applications for Certificate of Appropriateness:
Commercial:
a) 200 West First Street (Sun Bank) - Signage:
After considerable discussion, Michael Skat moved to table
this item in order that Staff may explain to the applicants
what the Board's concerns are. Laura Sollien stated that if
the application was resubmitted with an explanation for each
individual sign, it would be better, and she seconded the
motion. Helen Stairs was in opposition to the motion. All
others in favor. Motion carried.
VI. Applications for Certificate of Appropriateness:
Residential:
a) 207 East Tenth Street - Exterior Modifications:
Mark Hutchison, attorney for the applicants, was present for
representation. Jerry Mills moved to table because the
Certificate of Appropriateness was not complete, and the
applicant had legal counsel present whereas the Board did
not. The Board requested that Mr. Hutchison advise them if
he would be present at next month's meeting. All in favor.
Motion carried.
b) 407 South Magnolia Avenue - Install Pool and Screened
Enclosure:
Don Moore moved to approve. Helen Stairs seconded. All in
favor. Motion carried.
c) 506 Palmetto Avenue - Remove Chimney:
Michael Skat moved to deny because of the architectural
integrity that the chimney has for the house and that the
chimney should remain for future owners. Seconded by Jerry
Mills. Helen Stairs and Don Moore in opposition to the
motion. All others in favor. Motion carried.
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d) 719 South Myrtle Avenue - Reopen Front Porch:
Mr. Mills moved for approval with the condition that once
demolition is complete, the owners must submit a sketch to
Staff for minor review approval. Seconded by Paul Porter.
All in favor. Motion carried.
e) 705 Magnolia Avenue - Repair Stucco to Match Existing:
Jerry Mills moved to approve with the condition that the
sub - contractor be aware of the rock - stucco methods and
repairs are completed that match.
f) 1118 Palmetto Avenue - Install Brick Driveway:
Michael Skat moved to approve provided that the driveway is
straight. Seconded by Helen Stairs. All in favor. Motion
carried.
VII. Acknowledgement. of Minor Review Committee Actions:
a) 209 East Fourth Street - Rebuild. Porch:
b) 120 South Park Avenue - Parking Site Plan:
c) 601 Magnolia Avenue: - Remove Boards on Windows:
d) 102 East First Street - Re -roof:
The Board unanimously acknowledged the Minor Review
Committee Actions.
At this point, Laura Sollien thanked Cal Conklin and 011ie
Williams, and presented her with a Certificate, for their time
and dedication to the Historic Preservation Board. Mr. Conklin's
certificate is to be mailed at a later date.
VIII. Discussion Regarding 914 Park Avenue (Yellow house):
Michael Skat moved to send this item to Code Enforcement
because the owners refuse to apply for a. Certificate of
Appropriateness. Seconded by Kimberly Capucille. All in
favor. Motion carried.
IX. Discussion Regarding Newspaper -type Stands in Downtown:
Michael Skat moved to recommend that the Engineering and
Planning Department review the existing policy regarding
newspaper stands, and if they can be removed, remove them so
this item won't come before this Board again. Jay Marder to
research City Policy and determine what the next step should
be. Seconded by Helen Stairs. All in favor. Motion
carried.
X. Discussion Regarding 11.04 Magnolia - Compliance with C of A:
Leigh Skat, 1116 Magnolia Avenue, was present and in
opposition. She stated that the condition of the fence is
not the picture that should be portrayed. The fence comes
within inches of the sidewalk and there are dead animals
along the fence. Toby Troutman., 900 S. Palmetto Avenue, was
present and in opposition to this request. She stated that
the dogs jump against the fence, and are very frightening.
Charles Rowe, Director of Community Development, stated that
a violation went out today because of the number of dogs.
He noted that the owners have had a series of code
violations which have been responded to, i.e, high grass and
parking on right -of -way. Mr. Rowe asked if the owners would
have to submit a Certificate of Appropriateness or remove
the fence in order to be in compliance. It was unanimously
decided that the owners did not comply within the 6 -month
period necessary, therefore the owners must resubmit a
Certificate of Appropriateness. Michael Skat moved to turn
it over to Code Enforcement with the violation being that
the old Certificate of Appropriateness has expired. A new
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Certificate of Appropriateness is needed and if the owners
don't comply, Code Enforcement to start fine. Seconded by
Helen Stairs. All in favor. Motion carried.
Margaret Frison stated that Andrew VanGaale had made a statement
that Goldsboro has not been designated as a historic area. She
stated that some of the people in the neighborhood had talked
with her about historic recognition for Goldsboro. She asked
what needed to be done to get State recognition for Goldsboro as
a historic area. Mr. Marder stated that the City has been in
contact with the State, recently, and this Board did the study
and would recommend to the City Commission to establish this area
as historic. First, the City has to get the State Division of
Historical Resources to agree that we have a district.
XI. Distribution List for Walking Tour Brochures:
Helen Stairs noted that the Walking Tour Brochures are out
of date. Laura Sollien requested that it be placed on the
next Agenda and that everyone.review and suggest changes.
Mr. Mills volunteered to deliver to the first 8, up to the
Zoo, on the list; Mrs. Stairs to take the next 8, up to
Seminole National Bank; Mr. Porter to take the next 8, up to
the Depot; Mr. Skat to take the next 7, to the Post Office;
Ms. Sollien took the next 5, from the Post Office down; and
Ms. Capucille volunteered to take the rest, from the Herald
to Main Street.
XII. Discussion Regarding Mail Boxes in Old Sanford Residential
District:
Helen Stairs moved to approve inserting the wording for
mailboxes into the Codes for Certificates of
Appropriateness. Seconded by Mr. Skat. Mr. Marder stated
that Staff would draft up the wording, specifically, to
address mailboxes. He stated that the Sanford Post Master
has committed to addressing this Committee at its next
meeting.
Mrs. Sollien requested that Staff contact, Charleston,
Savannah, any historic district, to find out what keeps the
Post Office out of their district. Ms. Sollien stated that
if the Post Master will be on the agenda for next month,
then the Chairperson for the Sanford Historic Trust should
be notified as well, so that its members will be able to
attend.
XIII. Other Business:
Laura Sollien stated that she had faxed Andrew VanGaale
earlier today regarding letting new residents know what the
codes are for the district. She suggested that someone call
the Property Appraiser's office 10 -days in advance to obtain
a 25 page,print -out of all real estate transactions that
have transpired within the last two months to six weeks.
Determination should be made whether the address is in the
Historic District or not. The form letter that could be
used was done by Kevin Stubbs. Then a letter should be
processed. She feels that the Board has a legal
responsibility to let the new owners know the codes. She
stated that maybe the Board needs to look at the budget and
hire someone to do some of the things the Board needs.
Charles Rowe suggested that the Board contact Kevin Kelly
because he can target areas by computer.
011ie Williams asked what was the status of the address
correction for the Hopper Plaque.
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Addendum:
601 Magnolia Avenue - Porch, Bathroom, Window and Front Door
Repairs:
Kimberly Capucille moved to approve on condition that Minor
Review approve the 2- windows on Item #4 (replacing two
jalousie windows with custom made wood windows to match
others in house, one - over -one). Seconded by Jerry Mills.
All in favor. Motion carried.
The next two items on the Addendum was continued because the
applications were submitted late and due to the lateness of the
hour.
Commercial:
217 South Park Avenue - Signage and Site Plan Review:
Barkley Smith, representative, requested that it be entered
into the record that the application was not submitted late.
He stated that he was told by Staff that he needed to have
his application in.by the close of October 5, 1995.
Residential:
308 East Fifth Street - Exterior Rehabilitation:
Jay Marder stated that this has been reviewed by the
Division of Historic Resources.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 7:00
P.M.