06.01.95A G E N D A
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
Meeting June 1, 1995
City Hall
City Commission Conference Room
300' N. Park Avenue
Sanford, Florida
4:30 P.M.
I. Call to Order and Roll Call
II. Excused /Unexcused Absences
III. Welcome New Member
IV. Approval of Minutes
March 2, 1995
V. Application for Certificate of Appropriateness
COMMERCIAL
a) 119 West Fifth Street - Lamp post
b) 118 South Sanford Avenue - Windows /Door
RESIDENTIAL
a) 800 Elm Avenue - Roof
b) 400 Palmetto Avenue - Fence,
c) 1110 Palmetto Avenue - Fence
d) 519 Park Avenue - Sign
VI. Acknowledgement of Minor Review Committee Actions:
Commercial
a) 116 South Palmetto Avenue - window sign
Residential
a) 117 West Tenth Street - Fence
b) 813 South Magnolia - Roof
c) 820 Myrtle Avenue - Ordinary Maintenance
d) 120 South Park Avenue - Remove Boarded Windows
& Paint Exterior
VII. Other Business
a) Code Enforcement - All members are encouraged
to turn in potential code violations in
writing to Penny Turner at the close of the
meeting.
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M I N U T E S
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING
June 1, 1995
4:30 P.M.
City Commission Conference Room
City Hall, Sanford, Florida
Members Present:
Laura Sollien, Chairman
Cal Conklin
Chris Cranias
Don Moore
Helen Stairs
011ie Williams.
Members Absent:
Margaret Frison
Jerry Mills
Buck Mullins
Others in Attendance:
Russ Gibson, City Liaison
Penny Turner, Secretary
Andrew Van Gaale
Michael Skat
Laura Straehla
The Meeting was called to order by the Chairman, Laura Sollien at
4:30 P.M..
The Board welcomed Andrew Van Gaale as the new City Liaison for the
Historic Preservation Board.
Chris Cranias moved to approve the Minutes of March 2, 1995.
Seconded by 011ie Williams and carried by unanimous vote.
Andrew Van Gaale, representing the City of Sanford submitted an —
Application for Certificate of Appropriateness to install lamp
posts at 119 West Fifth Street. He explained that initially the
City of Sanford Recreation Department purchased two lamps for
outside the Cultural Arts Building. These post were contemporary
in style, this Board made recommendations to change the light
fixtures to a more appropriate style and add decorative post base
and ladder rest. The Recreation Department ran into problems with
the funds to get the specific recommended light fixtures. They had
further problems with the dealer which sold the original lamp
posts. To send the posts back for a refund the dealer wanted to
charge a $400 restocking fee. The Recreation Department is
proposing to work with the posts that they have using a Cape Town
Lamp. He explained that the base for the post that the Board
recommended were actually the whole post the same company provides
wrap around bases which are slightly different. They are proposing
to use the wrap around base so they can utilize the existing poles.
They wish to eliminate the ladder rest on the post. Later rest
were initially used in the time when they used oil lamps which are
more appropriate for the Paul Revere style light fixtures. -The
fixture that the Board recommended is an enclosed fixture.
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Discussion was held regarding the illumination and placement. The
City is proposing to place the post 4' off the sidewalk and 7' from
the each end of the entrance sidewalk. As far as the illumination
it appears that they will use a yellow light high pressure sodium
high efficient Mercury Viper. Mr. Van Gaale was not clear on which
type of bulb is to be used. He indicated that Tom Farnsworth, with
the Recreation Department has the appropriate answers.
Chris Cranias moved to table the Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness , to install the lamp post at 119 West Fifth Street
until Mr. Farnsworth can be available to answer the questions.
Seconded and carried by unanimous vote.
Joe Duggar was present and submitted an Application for Certificate
of Appropriateness for the windows and doors at 118 South Sanford
Avenue. Mr. Duggar explained that he is proposing to build an
apartment as their permanent residence inside the existing
building. He wishes to convert a window to a door and add two
additional windows. He further requested that the existing garage
which is currently boarded up be opened up so that he has entrance
into the apartment. He is proposing to use vinyl clad double hung
aluminum windows.
Don Moore moved to approve the Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness for installation of a door, two vinyl clad double
hung aluminum windows and the reopening of the garage door at 118
South Sanford Avenue. The door is to be either metal or wood.
Seconded by Helen Stairs and carried by unanimous vote.
Helen Stairs made a motion to make recommendation to Planning and
Zoning Commission to allow a Conditional Use at 118 South Sanford
Avenue, this will allow for residential use. Seconded by Chris
Cranias and carried by unanimous vote.
Ronnie Motts, representative for the Recreation Department, entered
the meeting to answer questions regarding the Application for
Certificate for the lamp posts at 119 West Fifth Street. The Board
requested that the bulb be the highest efficiency with the best
lighting possible.
Laura Sollien moved to approve the Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness using the suggested Cape Town lamps, with the wrap
around base, and drop the ladder rest. She requested that the
Recreation Department find a type of illumination with the highest
wattage, for the highest output of light possible for the fixture
that they have already purchased. She further approved the
proposed placement of the lamp posts. Seconded by Cal Conklin and
vote carried as follows:
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Laura Sollien
Aye
Don Moore
Aye
Cal Conklin
Aye
Helen Stairs
Nay
Chris Cranias
Aye
011ie Williams
Aye
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John Scheurting submitted an Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness to change the shingles to corrugated tin on a
portion of the kitchen roof at 800 Elm Avenue. Mr. Van Gaale
presented a sample of the material. The Board explained that the
sample is a 5V Crimp not corrugated tin.
Cal Conklin moved to approve the Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness to change the shingles to the 5 V Crimped tin on a
portion of the kitchen roof at 800 Elm Avenue. Seconded by Laura
Sollien and carried by unanimous vote.
Peter and Eva Nagy submitted an Application for Appropriateness to
install a 6' to 8' board on board fence at 400 Palmetto Avenue.
Applicants were not present.
Laura Sollien moved to approve the Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness to install a 6' board on board on the north side,
east side and on the south side only up to where the north /south
fence meets it. The 20' piece that the applicant is proposing to
put on north side at the front of the house at 400 Palmetto Avenue
is to be 54" high. Seconded by Cal Conklin and carried by
unanimous vote.
John Gonzalez submitted an Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness for a fence at 1110 Palmetto Avenue. He has
requested that this application be withdrawn.
Cindy McGinnis, with Schweizer, Inc. was present and submitted an
Application for Certificate of Appropriateness to re -use previous
back lighted sign board with removable letters in a new brick and
stucco surrounding wall to match new brick on sanctuary building.
The proposed sign will be located facing Park Avenue at the First
Baptist Church of Sanford at 519 South Park Avenue.
Discussion was held regarding the sign being back lighted. The
Board explained that the Sign Regulations, Schedule S, Section 5.0
(C) (6) states signs shall not be internally illuminated. Ms.
Sollien indicated that usually when you are in a Historic District
a sign for a church is usually a wood sign that has front lighting.
Ms. McGinnis explained that when the sign was taken down it was
disassembled and if there is a desire to not have back lighting all
of the guts have been pulled out of the sign they can leave the
lighting out and they can still be able to change the letters. So
there is a possibility to front light the sign opposed to using the
existing back lighting in the sign. Mr. Cranias stated that they
are using a pre- existing sign and he is not opposed to them
salvaging what they have. He suggested not using the back lighting
and use front lighting.
Chris Cranias moved to approve the pre- existing sign with the
condition that they omit the back lighting and go to a front flood
lighting. He based his motion on the Sign Regulations listed in
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Schedule S, Section 5.0(C)(6) signs shall not be internally
illuminated. Discussion was held regarding the sign being a pre-
existing sign, the sign was brought down and therefore needs to
conform to the new codes. Seconded by Laura Sollien and motion was
carried as follows:
Laura Sollien
Aye
Don Moore
Nay
Cal Conklin
Aye
Helen Stairs
Nay
Chris Cranias
Aye
011ie Williams
Aye.
Darla Johnson submitted an Application for Certificate of
Appropriateness to replace the natural plank on plank on the porch
at 1104 Magnolia Avenue. The Board considered this ordinary
maintenance and does not require action from this Board.
The Board acknowledged the Minor Review Actions for the following
Certificates of Appropriateness:
Commercial
a) 116 South Palmetto Avenue - Window Sign
Residential
a) 117 West Tenth Street - Fence
b) 813 South Magnolia Avenue - Roof
c) 820 Myrtle Avenue - Ordinary Maintenance
d) 120 South Park Avenue - Remove Boarded Windows and Paint
Exterior
Ms. Sollien provided the Board with a questionnaire she received
from Kay Bartholomew regarding Florida's Statewide Comprehensive
Historic Preservation Plan. She recommended that all the members
complete the questionnaire.
Ms. Sollien informed the Board that the City of Deland is forming
a Historic Preservation Board it is in its infancy stages. They
currently have two designated Commercial Districts, which they have
done a lot with through their Main Street Program. They are now
trying to do something with their Residential District. They are
asking for some guidance. They have requested an informal get
together to do idea exchanges.
There being no further business before the Board, the meeting was
adjourned at 6:12 P.M.
Respectfully Submitted: Penny Turner