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11.12.98AGENDA HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD Meeting November 12, 1998 Sanford City Hall City Commission Chambers 300 N. Park Avenue Sanford, FL 4:30 p.m. I. Call to Order and Roll Call II. Excused/Unexcused Absences III. Approval of Minutes - October 1998 IV. Applications for Certificate of Appropriateness - Commercial a) 201 South Park Avenue - Install Satellite Dish on Roof V. Applications for Certificate of Appropriateness - Residential a) 510 Palmetto Avenue - (Previously Tabled) Replace Metal Windows with Wood Windows b) Hwy 17 &92 & 2 "d Street (Burger King) - Revised Elevations and Site Plan - (Plans will be available at meeting for review) c) 515 Myrtle Avenue - Install Driveway d) 1313 Park Avenue - Modify Garage Exterior, Expand Driveway and Parking Area, Install Sign VI. Acknowledgment of Minor Review / Staff Review Actions a) 1101 Oak Avenue - Paint Exterior b) 715 Myrtle Avenue - Paint Exterior c) 1217 Oak Avenue - Construct Ground Level Wood Deck in Rear d) 720 Park Avenue - Repair 5 Windows e) 110 West 2 "d Street - Relocate Fire Escape VH. Other Business ADVICE TO THE PUBLIC: If a person decides to appeal a decision made with respect to any matter considered at the above meeting or hearing, he /she may need a verbatim record of the proceedings, including the testimony and evidence, which record is not provided by the City of Sanford (FS 286.0105). Persons with disabilities needing assistance to participate in any of these proceedings should contact the Personnel Office ADA Coordinator at 330 -5626 48 hours in advance of the meeting. MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING OF NOVEMBER 12, 1998 4:30 P.M. CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS CITY HALL, SANFORD, FLORIDA MEMBERS PRESENT: Scott Singeisen Kimberly Kmett Fred Rogers Julia Goeb Barbara Farrell Don Moore Walt Padgett Sica Nacu MEMBERS ABSENT: Jerry Gross - excused Laura Sollien- excused Eline Ransom - excused OTHERS PRESENT: Andrew Van Gaale, Staff Liaison Marion Anderson, Recording Secretary Bill Kirchhoff Brady Lessard Rick Bowles Gary Hardman Hamid Pakniat Barbara Umholtz Mr. Singeisen called the meeting to order at 4:30 P.M. Regarding the Minutes, Mr. Singeisen stated that he has a couple of questions regarding Page 2, first full paragraph, clarification as to Ms. Goeb seconding the motion, she also opposed it, and asked if this is allowed. Fourth and second paragraph from the bottom, it says Lon Howell and Clare Delano, if this could be noted as citizen participation, it not being very clear. The last paragraph states Roy Zimmer, etc. stated that he has someone that would like to move the house, and this came out of nowhere because there wasn't any discussion regarding a house up until that paragraph and theres nothing that says who asked about a house or which house. Second from the last full paragraph, it reads in opposition were Mr. Singeisen, Ms. Farrell, Ms. Ransom, he wasn't sure if it was in opposition to the motion and not Ms. Ransom's suggestion. It almost reads as though we're in opposition to Ms. Ransom's suggestion and not the motion itself. He didn't know if this was clear to everyone. (The Recording Secretary is not clear if changes are requested to the Minutes). Mr. Rogers moved to approve the Minutes. Seconded by Ms. Farrell. All in favor. Motion carried. First on the Agenda was an Application for a Certificate of Appropriateness - Commercial, 201 South Park Avenue - Install satellite dish on roof. Bill Kirchhoff, 2044 Hibiscus Court, stated that they needed the satellite dish for satellite communications to the home office in St. Louis. The roof is the best location. If it is down on the MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING OF NOVEMBER 12, 1998 PAGE 2 ground, its 'going to be very visible to people driving around in the Historic District. Mr. Kirchhoff stated that he would like to have the dish 6' (1.8 meters) installed on December 2 11 d. Mr. Kirchhoff stated that the roof has a parapit around it and it has a slope. The dish will .sit on the eastern side of the roof facing to the west. It will be visible but not standing high up in the air. It will be mounted on the roof with a rubber pad and concrete blocks. Ms. Nacu moved to approve. Seconded by Mr. Padgett. All in favor. Motion carried. The next item on the Agenda was a request for a Certificate of Appropriateness - residential- 510 Palmetto Avenue - replace metal windows with wood windows. Ms. Kmett moved to remove the item from the table. Seconded by Ms. Farrell. All in favor. Motion carried. Brady Lessard, 1109 Magnolia Avenue, stated.that he had met with Mr. Moore and Mr. Singeisen at the site and stated that he and Mr. Singeisen discussed what he needed to bring in and that amounted to a toned down version of what was originally applied for. Questions were related to the fixed windows. He stated that there won't be any fixed windows on the back as well ason the west and east sides of the house, which was on the original application. Ms. Goeb moved to approve as requested. Seconded by Ms. Kmett. All in favor. Motion carried. Next on the Agenda was a request for revised elevations and site plan - Hwy 17 &92 & 21 Street (Burger King). Rick Bowles stated that they had met with Mr. Rogers, Mr. Singeisen, and Mr. Van Gaale to discuss some ideas to give this building more of an appearance that would compliment the neighborhood. The roof will be metal and 8' in height and have gables on all four sides. There will be 3' of clap board siding above grade, continuously around the building and up in each of the gable areas. Below the clap board from 3' down to grade, there will be brick. The clap board will be white. Mr. Bowles stated that the storefront glazing system will have muttens dividing the glazed panels that are 2 The dumpster coral will have the same features as the storefront. The sign will be 15' high with a planter down below. The fence next to the alley will be a 6' high picket fence with the same brick as store with piers 16' on center. Jasmine will be planted to compliment the fence. Gary Hardman, Burger King Construction Manager, stated that orange race track lettering will be used for the wall signage. He will confer with Mr. Van Gaale at a later date regarding the lamp pole colors, preferably grey with black as option 2. The mullions will be changed to silver because the brown annondized mullions will be offensive. MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING OF NOVEMBER 12, 1998 PAGE 3 Ms. Nacu moved on approval as discussed and presented. Seconded by Ms. Kmett. All in favor. Motion carried. The next item on the Agenda was a request to install a driveway - 515 Myrtle Avenue. Hamid Pakniat, 2359 Beverly Street, Oviedo, was present for representation. He stated that he has the house up for sale and the potential owners are very interested in having a driveway. Mr. Pakniat stated that the driveway will go in right next to the house on the left side. He stated that the amount of money that it is for sale right now is about $40,000 more than what it was appraised for. He didn't think anyone would buy so he was thinking of moving here himself. He has some people who are really interested in buying the house. But, they are also extremely interested in the driveway. The driveway will be standard. He stated that he does have alley access but it is pretty dark and there is a boarding house here and its not really a safe alley. Mr. Pakniat stated the reason that he applied for the driveway is because he saw a house that the driveway was done and this was about two months ago. He figured that if one person could do it he could do it too. Mr. Padgett stated that if the Board is to even consider this, there needs to be a drawing that shows where it is going on site with measurements and the Board should not be discussing it until that drawing is submitted. Ms. Goeb stated to Mr. Pakniat that if he has a survey he could draw directly onto it. Mr. Singeisen stated that while a site plan is required for a complete application, this block along with the blocks to the north and south, have no curb cuts. He stated that the Board has granted variances for previous sites that are owner /occupied. Mr. Pakniat stated that this is not like a homestead, he owns the property. Mr. Singeisen stated that a primary residence is what the Board is looking for, this property is for sale at this time and that purchaser should come in for a driveway or carriage house. Mr. Pakniat stated that the purchase of the property is pretty much contingent upon this driveway. They are not going to buy it and apply for it later. The interested parties are saying that they would need a driveway. Mr. Pakniat stated that the reason he applied for this was that the house on Magnolia and the driveway that was poured a month ago is not on a side street. Ms. Farrell stated that this house is on a double lot and there are other curb cuts on that block. Mr. Padgett moved to deny. Seconded by Mr. Rogers. Mr. Padgett stated that he moved to deny because there are no curb cuts in the area, and because Schedule S guidelines indicate that the alley is to be used for egress to the property. Mr. Rogers stated that there is an $8 a month light from the power company that lights up the alley, and that there are no curb cuts within a two block radius, actually a three block radius if you go over to Elm. All in favor. Motion carried. Next on the Agenda was a Certificate of Appropriateness for 1313 MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING OF NOVEMBER 12, 1998 PAGE 4 Park Avenue - modify garage exterior, expand driveway and parking area, install sign. Barbara and Steve Umholtz, 1313 Park Avenue, were present. Mr. Umholtz stated that they are requesting to make modifications to the exterior surface of their building. They have a 10'x5'x2l" bay window that they would like to put in where there use to be a double wide garage door. The garage door was replaced with block and a window. They would like to take that framed wall completely out and install the bay window and a beveled glass door. Also, they would like to square up the concrete driveway so that there is more of a rectangular approach. Mr. Umholtz stated that they are also requesting to reestablish a sign where the sign for Park Avenue Catering use to be. Same spot, with a similar design. He intends to install lights that come down and shine on the sign. The bay window is double paned, white and made out of metal. The door is metal with stained glass. Ms. Nacu moved on approval to alter the facade of the garage with one door opening and install the bay window with the stipulation that the applicant bring in photographs of the windows and doors prior to construction and to enlarge the driveway to the dimension per plan and the sign according with the guidelines with the sign to be black and white. Seconded by Ms. Goeb. Mr. Van Gaale asked that the applicant check with the Engineering Department regarding the driveway. All in favor. Motion carried. Acknowledgment of Minor Review /Staff Review Actions: a) 1101 Oak Avenue - paint exterior; b) 715 Myrtle Avenue - paint exterior; c) 1217 Oak Avenue - construct ground level wood deck in rear; d) 720 Park Avenue - repair 5 windows; and e) 110 West 2 Street - relocate fire escape. Ms. Kmett moved on approval. Seconded by Ms. Goeb. All in favor. Motion carried. Under other business, Mr. Van Gaale reported that the Board cannot regulate or deny the use of satellite dishes. The Board can recommend that they be installed in the rear. Mr. Moore is to bring in a Walking Tour Brochure for review. Mr. Singeisen noted that a presentation should be made to the City Commission as to what the Board is doing, to high lite recent successes and present one obtainable year long goal. Mr. Singeisen noted that there is an absentee problem and requested that commitments be reconfirmed. Ms. Nacu stated that she has a problem with closing.her restaurant and noted that if the meeting time could be changed, it would help her. It was noted into the record that Mr. Gross has had several meetings out of State which has brought about his absenteeism and noted that he would like to continue as a Board member. Ms. Goeb moved to approve a time change for the meetings from 4:30 P.M. to-5:00 P.M. Seconded by Mr. Rogers. All in favor. Motion carried. There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 6:30 P.M.