10.08.98AGENDA
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
Meeting October 8, 1998
Sanford City Hall
City Commission Chambers
300 N. Park Avenue
Sanford, FL
4:30 P.M.
I. Call to Order and Roll Call
II. Excused / Unexcused Absences
III. Approval of Minutes - August 1998, September 1998
IV. Applications for Certificate of Appropriateness - Commercial
a) 116 West 2' Street - Install 5 Storefront Doors
b) 205 East 1" Street - Move Neon Sign to Exterior of Building
V. Applications for Certificate of Appropriateness - Residential
a) HWY 17 -92 and 2 " Street - Burger King Site Plan and Elevations
VI. Acknowledgment of Minor Review / Staff Review Actions
a) 1013 Oak Avenue - Paint Exterior
b) 312 S. Oak Avenue - Repair Porch Railings and Lattice
c) 316 S. Oak Avenue - Repair Front Steps
d) 612 Elm Avenue - Repair Wood Trim, Soffit and Fascia
e) 1013 Oak Avenue - Install Fence
VII. 1998 /1999 Development Workshop Series (information attached)
VIII. Other Business
ADVICE TO THE PUBLIC: If a person decides to appeal a decision made with respect to
any matter considered at the above meeting or hearing, he/she may need a verbatim record
of the proceedings, including the testimony and evidence, which record is not provided by
the City of Sanford (FS 286.0105).
Persons with disabilities needing assistance to participate in any of these proceedings
should contact the Personnel Office ADA Coordinator at 330 -5626 48 hours in advance of
the meeting.
ADDENDUM
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
Meeting October 8, 1998
Sanford City Hall
City Commission Chambers
300 N. Park Avenue
4:30 P.M.
IV. Application for Certificate of Appropriateness - Commercial
c) 105 East 1" Street - Exterior Modification
V. Application for Certificate of Appropriateness - Residential
b) 510 Palmetto Avenue - Replace metal windows with wood windows
ADVICE TO THE PUBLIC: If a person decides to appeal a decision made with respect to
any matter considered at the above meeting or hearing, he /she may need a verbatim record
of the proceedings, including the testimony and evidence, which record is not provided by
the City of Sanford (FS 186.0105).
Persons with disabilities needing assistance to participate in any of these hearings should
contact the Personnel Office ADA Coordinator at 330 -5626 48 hours in advance of the
meeting.
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HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
MEETING OF October 8, 1998
4:30 P.M.
CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS
CITY HALL, SANFORD -, FLORIDA
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Eline Ransom
Laura Sollien
Scott Singeisen
Kimberly. Kmett
Fred Rogers
Julia Goeb
Barbara Farrell
Don Moore
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Jerry Gross- excused
Walt Padgett
Sica Nacu
OTHERS PRESENT:
Andrew Van Gaale,- Staff Liaison
Marion Anderson, Recording Secretary
Bob Kuhn.
Rami Yosefian
Ellen Schirmer
Lon Howell
Claire Delano
Roy Zimmer
Mr. S ngeisen.- called the meeting to order at 4:30- P.M.
Ms. Farrell moved to approve the Minutes of August 13 as
circulated. Seconded by Mr. Rodgers.. All in favor. Motion
carried.
Regarding the September 10' Minutes.,- on Page 3, second
paragraph, it states that Mr. Singeisen stated that he went to
the Historical Society and requested that this be tabled, and it
should read that Mr. Singeisen stated that he went to the City
Commission Meeting and requested that this be tabled. With this
change, Ms. Kmett moved to approve. Seconded by Ms. Goeb. All
in favor. Motion carried.
Applications for Certificates of Appropriateness - Commercial:
116 West 2 11 d Street - install 5- storefront doors. Bob Kuhn,
Diamond Glass, 305 Palmetto Avenue, stated that he has been hired
by Rami Yosefian to make some changes to the building on 2nd
Street. He will remove some plate glass windows and insert 5
storefront doors The wood window sills will remain. Mr. Kuhn
stated that he will be taking out the large picture windows, cut
them in half.and insert a 3070 glass. He will be installing the
doors in five locations. Each door will be for a separate store.
The appearance will be-black-faced with the.extrusion being clear
anodize.
Ms_ Sollien.moved to approve.. Seconded by Mr... Rogers. All.in
favor. Motion carried.
205 East la° Street.- move neon sign to exterior of building.
Ellen Schirmer, owner of Willow. Tree Cafe, 205 E. 1a° Street was
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present. She stated that the.light.is so bright that it attracts
bugs inside the restaurant. It is a health problem. She would
like to- place the sign on. the. building. above the awning.
Ms. Sollien moved to deny. Seconded by Ms. Goeb for discussion.
Mr.. Rogers asked.the applicant if she had lo.o.ked.into plexi -glass
covers. Ms. Schirmer stated that she has a plexi -glass cover but
the bugs still get. in. Anything that is put underneath the
awning in her patio can't be seen from the street. The place
looks closed.even.during the day. Opposed to the motion was Mr.
Rogers and Ms. Goeb. Motion carried.
Applications. for Certificates of.Appropriatenes -s - Residential:
Hwy. 17 -92 and 2 Street - Burger King Site Plan and Elevations.
Rick..Bowles., Architect., 5.30 Geneva Place, Orlando.; Gary Hardman,
Construction Manager for Burger King Corporation, 1500 Bevel
Road, Daytona Beach; Alan..Corwick, 138.0 N.. Crooked Lake Drive;
and Mark Holder, Holder Engineering, 577 Wekiva Landing Drive,
Apopka, were present.
Mr. Bowles stated that he has tried to meet the criteria of
Schedule S, Historic Preservation. They are planning on using
grey and white brick-on .all ..elevations. There ..will.be -some wood
trim.
Mr_ Rogers stated.that.he has.seen.Burger Kings-in-other historic
districts throughout the country that are of red bricks and low
signage that had more user friendly materials than what is being
described here. He stated that in Schedule S there are no back-
lit. signs_. The concrete. wall.. as.. shown will. have to be- wood
fencing, the colors of the building don't match, the sign is not
of his.torical.design.... Mr.. Rog.ers.stated -that he.. has . two pages of
notes that don't fit Schedule S. He stated that he didn't
believe. Schedule. S. was-read when drawing this-design.. Mr. Van
Gaale stated that the Land Development Regulations requires that
a wall. b.e. used. as. separation.. for. residential. and commercial and
that a stucco wall could be stipulated.
Ms.. Farrell stated that it needs to be softened and asked if clap
board could be used instead of the diagonal wood.
Lon Howell.,. 110.9. Park. Avenue., sugges.ted.that . the.lo.t behind the
convenience store across the street be used for retention.
Mr. Bowles stated that.he. wanted .to_ expedite and eliminate the
need of going through this again. He stated that everyone on the
Board has a different opinion of what...this facility should look
like. He asked for an example of a facility in the Historic
District_. now that_ he. could pattern_ their. facility.
Clair Delano, 801 -807 Magnolia Avenue, stated that in New
Orleans,, restaurants. and.hotels. ar.e.accepted.anywhere..you go. She
stated that if the Board wants to make the Historic District
better,._it.would el the pest control., the.glass company
and the automobile transmission shop.
Roy Z immer , 40.4. Aloha Driv.e,. Winter .Park, . owner_, stated that he
has someone that would like to move the house. The other houses
were .. moved. and one was torn down. because it was. too high. and it
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would have been too expensive to move. The-houses that were
moved have been renovated.
Mr.. Rogers moved to approve the concept of the Burger King
without the retention area as drawn and to have a committee of
three bf. this .Board .woxk.with.Burger King to make .a compatible
design and present it back to the Board. Seconded by Ms. Ransom.
All in- favor. Motion. carried.
Addendum to the Agenda:
10-5 East lab Street - Exterior Modification. Bart Rush, 105 E.
ta Street, was present. He requested to eliminate existing
materials. The area as it exists. now.is- comprised. of two sets of
double doors with the exterior glass facade at street level. He
requested to. eliminate -the first layer of entrances. for aesthetic
value in creating a walk up courtyard area that will be tiled,
and allow the public to readily recognize the business that
exists on the property so as not having to look in two layers of
exterior entrances to -find out what exist beyond the second
entrance. The doors will be taken out and stored upstairs.
Ms.. Sollien.moved.to approve. Seconded by Ms.. Kme.tt -and Ms.
Farrell. All in favor. Motion carried.
510 Palmetto Avenue..- replace metal windows with.wood windows. No
representation. Mr. Van Gaale stated that the applicant wants to
have three windows in.the.rear, spaced evenly, instead of four.
Ms. Sollien moved to table until the applicant can come in.
Seconded by Mr_ Rogers.. , Ms.- Ransom-stated that.the Board should
approve it on the condition that there are no stationary windows.
In- opposition. were Mr. S_ingeisen, Ms.. Farrell, and Ms... Ransom.
Mr. Moore abstained. All others in favor. Motion carried.
Acknowledgment. of.. Minor. , Review /Staff.. Review Actions:
1013 Oak Avenue - paint exterior; 312 S. Oak Avenue - repair
porch railings and lattice; 316 S.. Oak Avenue - repair front
steps; 612 Elm Avenue - repair wood trim, soffit and fascia; and
1013 Oak.Avenue - install fence. Mr. Moore. moved. to approve.
Seconded by Ms. Goeb. All in favor. Motion carried.
There. being. no further business, the meeting_ adjourned at 6.:00
P.M.