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10.08.98AGENDA HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD Meeting October 8, 1998 Sanford City Hall City Commission Chambers 300 N. Park Avenue Sanford, FL 4:30 P.M. I. Call to Order and Roll Call II. Excused / Unexcused Absences III. Approval of Minutes - August 1998, September 1998 IV. Applications for Certificate of Appropriateness - Commercial a) 116 West 2' Street - Install 5 Storefront Doors b) 205 East 1" Street - Move Neon Sign to Exterior of Building V. Applications for Certificate of Appropriateness - Residential a) HWY 17 -92 and 2 " Street - Burger King Site Plan and Elevations VI. Acknowledgment of Minor Review / Staff Review Actions a) 1013 Oak Avenue - Paint Exterior b) 312 S. Oak Avenue - Repair Porch Railings and Lattice c) 316 S. Oak Avenue - Repair Front Steps d) 612 Elm Avenue - Repair Wood Trim, Soffit and Fascia e) 1013 Oak Avenue - Install Fence VII. 1998 /1999 Development Workshop Series (information attached) VIII. Other Business ADVICE TO THE PUBLIC: If a person decides to appeal a decision made with respect to any matter considered at the above meeting or hearing, he/she may need a verbatim record of the proceedings, including the testimony and evidence, which record is not provided by the City of Sanford (FS 286.0105). Persons with disabilities needing assistance to participate in any of these proceedings should contact the Personnel Office ADA Coordinator at 330 -5626 48 hours in advance of the meeting. ADDENDUM HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD Meeting October 8, 1998 Sanford City Hall City Commission Chambers 300 N. Park Avenue 4:30 P.M. IV. Application for Certificate of Appropriateness - Commercial c) 105 East 1" Street - Exterior Modification V. Application for Certificate of Appropriateness - Residential b) 510 Palmetto Avenue - Replace metal windows with wood windows ADVICE TO THE PUBLIC: If a person decides to appeal a decision made with respect to any matter considered at the above meeting or hearing, he /she may need a verbatim record of the proceedings, including the testimony and evidence, which record is not provided by the City of Sanford (FS 186.0105). Persons with disabilities needing assistance to participate in any of these hearings should contact the Personnel Office ADA Coordinator at 330 -5626 48 hours in advance of the meeting. f 4 , 1 MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING OF October 8, 1998 4:30 P.M. CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS CITY HALL, SANFORD -, FLORIDA MEMBERS PRESENT: Eline Ransom Laura Sollien Scott Singeisen Kimberly. Kmett Fred Rogers Julia Goeb Barbara Farrell Don Moore MEMBERS ABSENT: Jerry Gross- excused Walt Padgett Sica Nacu OTHERS PRESENT: Andrew Van Gaale,- Staff Liaison Marion Anderson, Recording Secretary Bob Kuhn. Rami Yosefian Ellen Schirmer Lon Howell Claire Delano Roy Zimmer Mr. S ngeisen.- called the meeting to order at 4:30- P.M. Ms. Farrell moved to approve the Minutes of August 13 as circulated. Seconded by Mr. Rodgers.. All in favor. Motion carried. Regarding the September 10' Minutes.,- on Page 3, second paragraph, it states that Mr. Singeisen stated that he went to the Historical Society and requested that this be tabled, and it should read that Mr. Singeisen stated that he went to the City Commission Meeting and requested that this be tabled. With this change, Ms. Kmett moved to approve. Seconded by Ms. Goeb. All in favor. Motion carried. Applications for Certificates of Appropriateness - Commercial: 116 West 2 11 d Street - install 5- storefront doors. Bob Kuhn, Diamond Glass, 305 Palmetto Avenue, stated that he has been hired by Rami Yosefian to make some changes to the building on 2nd Street. He will remove some plate glass windows and insert 5 storefront doors The wood window sills will remain. Mr. Kuhn stated that he will be taking out the large picture windows, cut them in half.and insert a 3070 glass. He will be installing the doors in five locations. Each door will be for a separate store. The appearance will be-black-faced with the.extrusion being clear anodize. Ms_ Sollien.moved to approve.. Seconded by Mr... Rogers. All.in favor. Motion carried. 205 East la° Street.- move neon sign to exterior of building. Ellen Schirmer, owner of Willow. Tree Cafe, 205 E. 1a° Street was MINUTES HISTORIC. PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING OF OCTOBER 8, 1998 PAGE 2 present. She stated that the.light.is so bright that it attracts bugs inside the restaurant. It is a health problem. She would like to- place the sign on. the. building. above the awning. Ms. Sollien moved to deny. Seconded by Ms. Goeb for discussion. Mr.. Rogers asked.the applicant if she had lo.o.ked.into plexi -glass covers. Ms. Schirmer stated that she has a plexi -glass cover but the bugs still get. in. Anything that is put underneath the awning in her patio can't be seen from the street. The place looks closed.even.during the day. Opposed to the motion was Mr. Rogers and Ms. Goeb. Motion carried. Applications. for Certificates of.Appropriatenes -s - Residential: Hwy. 17 -92 and 2 Street - Burger King Site Plan and Elevations. Rick..Bowles., Architect., 5.30 Geneva Place, Orlando.; Gary Hardman, Construction Manager for Burger King Corporation, 1500 Bevel Road, Daytona Beach; Alan..Corwick, 138.0 N.. Crooked Lake Drive; and Mark Holder, Holder Engineering, 577 Wekiva Landing Drive, Apopka, were present. Mr. Bowles stated that he has tried to meet the criteria of Schedule S, Historic Preservation. They are planning on using grey and white brick-on .all ..elevations. There ..will.be -some wood trim. Mr_ Rogers stated.that.he has.seen.Burger Kings-in-other historic districts throughout the country that are of red bricks and low signage that had more user friendly materials than what is being described here. He stated that in Schedule S there are no back- lit. signs_. The concrete. wall.. as.. shown will. have to be- wood fencing, the colors of the building don't match, the sign is not of his.torical.design.... Mr.. Rog.ers.stated -that he.. has . two pages of notes that don't fit Schedule S. He stated that he didn't believe. Schedule. S. was-read when drawing this-design.. Mr. Van Gaale stated that the Land Development Regulations requires that a wall. b.e. used. as. separation.. for. residential. and commercial and that a stucco wall could be stipulated. Ms.. Farrell stated that it needs to be softened and asked if clap board could be used instead of the diagonal wood. Lon Howell.,. 110.9. Park. Avenue., sugges.ted.that . the.lo.t behind the convenience store across the street be used for retention. Mr. Bowles stated that.he. wanted .to_ expedite and eliminate the need of going through this again. He stated that everyone on the Board has a different opinion of what...this facility should look like. He asked for an example of a facility in the Historic District_. now that_ he. could pattern_ their. facility. Clair Delano, 801 -807 Magnolia Avenue, stated that in New Orleans,, restaurants. and.hotels. ar.e.accepted.anywhere..you go. She stated that if the Board wants to make the Historic District better,._it.would el the pest control., the.glass company and the automobile transmission shop. Roy Z immer , 40.4. Aloha Driv.e,. Winter .Park, . owner_, stated that he has someone that would like to move the house. The other houses were .. moved. and one was torn down. because it was. too high. and it MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING OF OCTOBER 8, 1998 -PAGE 3 would have been too expensive to move. The-houses that were moved have been renovated. Mr.. Rogers moved to approve the concept of the Burger King without the retention area as drawn and to have a committee of three bf. this .Board .woxk.with.Burger King to make .a compatible design and present it back to the Board. Seconded by Ms. Ransom. All in- favor. Motion. carried. Addendum to the Agenda: 10-5 East lab Street - Exterior Modification. Bart Rush, 105 E. ta Street, was present. He requested to eliminate existing materials. The area as it exists. now.is- comprised. of two sets of double doors with the exterior glass facade at street level. He requested to. eliminate -the first layer of entrances. for aesthetic value in creating a walk up courtyard area that will be tiled, and allow the public to readily recognize the business that exists on the property so as not having to look in two layers of exterior entrances to -find out what exist beyond the second entrance. The doors will be taken out and stored upstairs. Ms.. Sollien.moved.to approve. Seconded by Ms.. Kme.tt -and Ms. Farrell. All in favor. Motion carried. 510 Palmetto Avenue..- replace metal windows with.wood windows. No representation. Mr. Van Gaale stated that the applicant wants to have three windows in.the.rear, spaced evenly, instead of four. Ms. Sollien moved to table until the applicant can come in. Seconded by Mr_ Rogers.. , Ms.- Ransom-stated that.the Board should approve it on the condition that there are no stationary windows. In- opposition. were Mr. S_ingeisen, Ms.. Farrell, and Ms... Ransom. Mr. Moore abstained. All others in favor. Motion carried. Acknowledgment. of.. Minor. , Review /Staff.. Review Actions: 1013 Oak Avenue - paint exterior; 312 S. Oak Avenue - repair porch railings and lattice; 316 S.. Oak Avenue - repair front steps; 612 Elm Avenue - repair wood trim, soffit and fascia; and 1013 Oak.Avenue - install fence. Mr. Moore. moved. to approve. Seconded by Ms. Goeb. All in favor. Motion carried. There. being. no further business, the meeting_ adjourned at 6.:00 P.M.