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The City Commission of the City of Sanford, Florida, and the School Board of Seminole County met in
Joint Work Session on Monday, September 14, 1998, at 3:30 o'clock P.M. in the City Commission Chambers, City Hall,
300 North Park Avenue, Sanford, Florida.
Present for City Commission:
Mayor-Commissioner Larry A. Dale
Commissioner Whitey Eckstein
Commissioner Brady Lessard
Commissioner Kerry D. Lyons
Commissioner Velma H. Williams
City Manager Tony VanDerworp
City Clerk Janet R. Dougherty
Absent:
City Attomey William L. Colbert
Present for the School Board of Seminole County:
Barbara Kuhn, Chairman
Larry Furlong, Vice Chairman
Jeannie Morris
Sandy Robinson
Bob Goff
Paul Hagerty, Superintendent
Tony Ackerson
Diane Kramer
Scott Stegall
Gretchen Schapker
Mayor Dale called the meeting to order.
Swimmine Pool Project.
Mayor Dale thanked the School Board for attending the meeting. He reported the Staff has been working
on a proposal for the swimming pool and has prepared some information regarding the project.
Scott Stegall, Director of Capital Outlay with Seminole County Schools, presented a brief overview of the
operational costs of the pool facilities at Lyman High School and Lake Brantley High School. Lake Brantley's pool is
closer in size and capabilities to what the City of Sanford is proposing. The annual expenditures for 1997 for the Lyman
High School pool facility were $45,822.31, and for the Lake Brantley High School pool facility were $122,951.47.
Diane Kramer reported that at Lake Brantley the City of Altamonte is in charge of the operation of the pool
and the Booster Club acts as a third party agent. The revenue is about $55,000.00.
Mayor Dale reported the City has put together a $942,500.00 cost estimate to build the pool without the
bulkhead. The School Board had provided an estimate of about $1,836,500.00, the bathhouse being $750,000.00. The
bathhouse in the City's estimate is approximately $175,000.00. The School Board's estimate included two removable
bulkheads at $255,000.00. There was considerable discussion about whether two bulkheads were needed for competition,
and it was reported that one bulkhead would be sufficient, but it could put the pool at.a disadvantage'when competing for
rental revenues. The perceived consensus of all Board and Commission members was to install one bulkhead now, and
plan to install a second one some time in the future. They agreed that for a Class A pool two bulkheads would be
preferable. Also not included in the City's estimate is competition equipment, which is about $28,000.00 in the School
Board's estimate.
Commissioner Eckstein reported the purpose of a pool, especially at the school, is to teach all children how
to swim and give them the opportunity to learn from qualified instructors.
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The School Board provided an Inter-local Agreement Framework for Staff from both entities to work on
and draw up an Inter-local Agreement agreeable to all parties.
Commissioner Williams asked if students would get credit for swimming classes, and how much money the
School Board would receive for students taking those classes. The School Board reported students would get credit for
swimming classes, and there would be no money involved because it would be included in the Physical Education
program, or be handled just like any academic subject.
Scott Stegall reported he has done research to pinpoint any down-side to the pool, and he has not found any,
except for privately owned pools in regard to maintenance.
Paul Hagerty reported that when designing the pool there are architectural considerations that would save
on utility costs, such as placement, wind breaks, special materials, etc. Also, he will look into grants or special funding
available to help with the construction of the pool.
Hamilton Elementary Bus Entrance.
Mike Kirby, Recreation Director for the City of Sanford, reported the road into Hamilton Elementary
School needs to be straightened to allow for expansion of the ball fields at Chase Park. The School Board reported it had
discussed this issue and agreed it could be done.
New entrance into Seminole Hil~h School and Millennium Middle School complex
Mayor Dale reported at one time there had been discussion of a new entrance off of Airport Boulevard into
the school complex. Diane Kramer reported that the School Board is working on the Live Oak Boulevard extension, and
they have a contract to purchase the land under the easement that would give them legal fight to use it. There is still
another easement that they need to research. Ms. Kramer pointed out on a map where the new road would come into the
complex, where the tennis courts and ball fields are located, and where the pool would be located. The plans include some
rearrangement of parking, dumpsters, etc. that are now at the school.
Larry Furlong reported the next step in the pool project is for the two Staffs to put together a proposed Inter-
local agreement for consideration by all three parties.
There being no further business, the Mayor announced the Commission would take a break and reconvene
in the City Manager's Conference Room.
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