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City Commission, Sanford, Florida Work Sossion
May 20 19 96
The City Commission of the City of Sanford, Florida met in Work Session Monday, May
20, 1996, at 4:30 o'cloCk P.M. in the City Manager's Conference Room, City Hall, 300 North
Park Avenue, Sanford, Florida.
Present: Acting Mayor-Commissioner Whitey Eckstein
Commissioner Robert B. Thomas, Jr.
Commissioner Lon K. Howell
Commissioner Kerry D. Lyons
City Manager William A. Simmons
Deputy City Clerk Linda L. Brace
Absent: Mayor-Commissioner Bettye D. Smith
City Attorney William L. Colbert
City Clerk Janet R. Douqherty
The Chairman called the meeting to order.
Drainage in Goldengate Circle.
Fannie Bookman requested the Commission's help in correcting the drainage problem
in the Goldengate Circle area.
The City Manager reported that on June 3, 1996, Staff will attempt to re-establish
the swale inverts that will cause the drainage to move out to Bell Avenue, that two driveways
will need to be regraded, and that some additional off-site corrections may be necessary.
Video and Brochure to promote Sanford.
Margaret Beard distributed a brochure and Welcome to Sanford Showcase information;
showed one amateur video with emphasis on tourism, and two commercial demo tapes by FTC and
Avid as an example of the professional quality needed to promote Sanford; reported that her
concept is tourism, however, other areas of interest might include education, economic
development,, and residential, and requested the City's endorsement and financial support for
a promotional videotape of Sanford.
The City Manager suggested that Ms. Beard speak with the Chamber of Commerce Board
of Directors for input relative whether the City, the Airport, the Chamber of Commerce or
others, as appropriate, should take the lead in this endeavor.
After discussion, the Commission concurred with the concept, and requested thatMs.
Beard provide a written proposal, including cost factors, and locations/areas of interest to
be included/excluded, with Staff to provide revenue sources, for City Commission review and
discussion at a future Work Session.
Presentation byCamp Dresser & McKee Inc., of Seminole County Part 2 NPDES Stormwater Permit
ADplication.
Scott McClelland, Camp Dresser & McKee Inc., reported that the permit is a 2 1/2
year permitting process, that the purpose of the permit, which will probably be issued in
1997 or 1998, is to eliminate illicit connections, and control pollution to the maximum
extent practicable.
On recommendation of the City Manager, the consensus of the Commission was to
authorize execution of the NPDES Stormwater Permit Part II Application, for delivery to the
Department of Environmental Protection Agency by June 13, 1996.
Request from Better Living for Seniors for matching funds for a FloridaFix grant,
After discussion, and on recommendation of the City Manager, the Commission
concurred to deny the request for waiver of building permit fees, but to continue its
comprehensive support of community development through the Community Development Department.
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Upgrades to the City. Hall telephone system.
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The City Manager revieWed the proposed upgrades to City Hall's current telephone
system, as described in memorandum dated May 20, 1996, from Finance Director, including
joining the State of Florida's ESSEX system, which would provide substantial savings; voice
mail and off-site lines, that the cost for said upgrades is $60,000.00. Further, Carolyn
Small recommends procuring the necessary hardware directly from BellSouth, the current
provider, rather than a different vendor, which would require an RFP; however, if the City
Commission is interested in pursuing an RFP, a consultant should be hired to write the bid
specifications.
(Commissioner Thomas briefly left the meeting, then returned.)
Further, Staff believes that the upgrades are necessary, and that funding would
come from General Fund Reserves.
(Commissioner Howell briefly left the meeting, then returned.)
After discussion, the Commission concurred that Staff provide information why the
City should proceed with the upgrading of the telephone system now, from general fund
reserves, versus budgeting it in FY 96/97, from operating budgets, for further discussion at
the next Work Session.
City personnel re-classifications and re-grades.
The City Manger reviewed personnel considerations, including requests for re-
classification and additional positions, as described in his memorandum dated May 3, 1996,
and provided recommendations regarding same. Further, relative the requests for re-
classification of some Secretary III's to Executive Secretary's, it would be best for all
department heads' secretarial positions to be the same, and the salary survey shows a
negative deviation of 12% to 14% for an Executive Secretary.
City Manager Simmons also reviewed and discussed the FY 96/97 Salary Survey Data,
as described in memorandum dated April 23, 1996, from Personnel Director, and recommended
that those positions with a negative salary deviation of 3% remain at the same pay rate;
between 3% and 5.99% receive a one (1) step regrade (3%), and a two (2) step regrade (6%) for
positions with a negative salary deviation of 6% and above, with continuation of the current
merit pay system. Further, the cost for all regrades is $325,000.00, with the exception of
police officers, which is a separate bargaining unit, and will be handled accordingly.
The Commission discussed the merit pay system, the written performance evaluation
for determining the merit increase of 3% vs 6%, and the possibility of a 2% to 3% across-the-
board COLA, with no regrades.
Board appointments/re-apDointments. The Commission did not discuss,.
Regular Agenda Items and other items. No discussion.
City Manager's Re~ort. No report given.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned. _
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The City Commission of the City' of Sanford, Florida met in Regular Meeting on
Monday, May 20, 1996 at 7:00 o'clock P.M. in the C±ty Commission Room, City Hall, 300 North
Park Avenue, Sanford, Florida.
Present:
Absent:
Commissioner Whitey Eckstein, Acting Mayor
Commissioner Robert B. Thomas, Jr.
Commissioner Lon K. Howell
Commissioner Kerry D. Lyons
Assistant City Attorney Clayton D. Simmons
City Manager William A. Simmons
Deputy City Clerk Linda L. Brace
Mayor-Commissioner Bettye D. Smith
City Attorney William L. Colbert
City Clerk Janet R. Dougherty
The Chairman called the meeting to order.
Public Hearing to consider second reading and adoption of Ordinance No. 3297, as advertised
in the Sanford Herald May 9, 1996.
Ordinance No. 3297, entitled:
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SANFORD, FLORIDA,
.AMENDING ORDINANCE NO. 3230, AND ITS AMENDMENTS,
AND ADOPTING AN AMENDED CLASSIFICATION AND PAY PLAN
EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY TO AUTHORIZE THE
RECLASSIFICATION OF FOUR (4) ',BUILDING INSPECTOR"
POSITIONS TO FOUR (4) "CODE COMPLIANCE INSPECTOR"
POSITIONS IN THE BUILDING/CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION
OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT AND TO
AUTHORIZE THE RECLASSIFICATION AND REGRADE OF ONE
(1) "CIVIL ENGINEER I" POSITION TO ONE (1)
"PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER" POSITION IN THE ENGINEERING
& PLANNING DEPARTMENT; PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY,
CONFLICTS, AND EFFECTIVE DATE.
introduced and placed on first reading at meeting of May 13, 1996, was next placed on second
reading. After being read by title, the Chairman .announced that the Conm~ission would hear
from those persons present to speak in favor of, or in opposition to, the adoption of
Ordinance No. 3297. No one appeared.
Commissioner Lyons moved on second reading and adoption of said Ordinance No. 3297.
Seconded by Commissioner Thomas and carried by the vote of the Commission as follows:
Commissioner Eckstein Aye
Commissioner Thomas Aye
Commissioner Howell Aye
Commissioner Lyons .Aye
Hearing to consider an appeal of a denial by the Historic Preservation Board re: 1011 Oak
Avenue.
City Manager Simmons reported that the information the Commission received in the
agenda package included the appeal request from Sica Nacu, photographs and the excerpt from
the Historic Preservation Board minutes of April !1, 1996. He reported that the section
regarding this appeal is Section V(b) which provides the record of information from the
Historic Preservation Board. He further stated that there is not a full verbatim transcript
as we do not provide those, but a tape of the meeting is available. Commissioner Lyons
stated that he would like to continue with the hearing based on information received.
Commissioner Howell stated that the only persons allowed to speak would be Ms. Nacu and
someone from the Historic Preservation Board, unless they had spoken at the Historic
Preservation Board meeting. Assistant City Attorney Simmons advised the Commission that this
is an appeal, and the Commission is limited to re%iewing the record that was presented and
can not consider anything outside that record. There is no new testimony or evidence that
should come before the Commission. The Chairman requested discussion and whether the
Commission had sufficient time to look at the record and make a decision based on the
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information received. Commissioner Howell stated that if Ms. Nacu had pictures of the
railings that may have been on this type of home before, to present the pictures to the
Historic Preservation Board with documentation showing where they got the idea of the railing
and any documentation regarding the porch. Commissioner Howell moved that the appeal be
referred back to the Historic Preservation Board for re-consideration and further discussion.
Seconded by Commissioner Thomas and carried by the vote of the Commission as follows:
Commissioner Eckstein Aye
Commissioner Thomas Aye
Commissioner Howell Aye
Commissioner Lyons Nay
Request for Right-of-Way UseAgreement re: 207 Magnolia Avenue, On recommendation of the
City Manager, Commissioner Thomas moved to approve the Right-of-Way Use Agreement with First
Street Gallery for two (2) planters for trees to be placed on the sidewalk in front of 207
Magnolia Avenue. Seconded by Commissioner Howell and carried by the vote of the Commission
as follows:
Commissioner Eckstein Aye
Commissioner Thomas Aye
Commissioner Howell Aye
Commissioner Lyons Aye
First reading of Ordinance No. 3296. On motion of Commissioner Lyons, seconded by
Commissioner Howell and carried by the vote of the Commission as follows:
Commissioner Eckstein Aye
Commissioner Thomas Aye
Commissioner Howell Aye
Commissioner Lyons Aye
Ordinance No. 3296, entitled:
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF SANFORD, FLORIDA,
AMENDING CHAPTER 19, PLUMBING, SECTION 19-5, WATER
CONSERVATION OF THE SANFORD CITY CODE, BE DELETING
EXISTING SUBSECTIONS (a), (b), (c), (d) and (e) IN
THEIR ENTIRETY AND ADDING SUBSECTION (a) SHORT
TITLE; SUBSECTION (b) UNLAWFUL PLUMBING EQUIPMENT
IN NEW CONSTRUCTION; SUBSECTION (c) APPLICABILITY
OF SUBSECTION (b); AND SUBSECTION (d) ALLOWANCE OF
STANDARD FLUSH TOILETS IN CERTAIN CASES; PROVIDING
FOR CODIFICATION, SEVERABILITY, CONFLICTS AND
EFFECTIVE DATE.
was introduced and placed on first reading.
Acceptance of Closeout Audit of State RevolvingFund Loan CSI20586190. On recommendation of
the City Manager, Commissioner Howell moved to accept the audit. Seconded by Commissioner
Lyons and carried by the vote of the Commission as follows:
Commissioner Eckstein Aye
Commissioner Thomas Aye
Commissioner Howell Aye
Commissioner Lyons Aye
Board appointments/re-appointments.
Civil Service Board: The City Clerk reported that the term of William T. Royster
expires June 30, 1996, and that Mr. Royster has been contacted and is willing to
serve again, if re-appointed.
Commissioner Howell moved to re-appoint William Royster to the Civil Service Board.
Seconded by Commissioner Thomas and carried by the vote of the Commission as
follows:
Commissioner Eckstein Aye
Commissioner Thomas Aye
Commissioner Howell Aye
Commissioner Lyons Aye
Code Enforcement Board: The City Clerk reported that the terms of Lisa Nason and
Andrew Kutz expire on June 30, 1996. The Commission concurred to discuss this item
at the next meeting.
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Nuisance Abatement Board: The City Clerk reported that the Commission needs to
appoint three (3) members, with initial terms staggered: 1 member appointed for a
2 year initial term; and 2 members appointed for 1 year initial terms.
Commissioner Howell moved to appoint Michael Goeb with Application/Volunteer for
Appointment to a City Board form to be presented at the next Commission meeting.
Commissioners Thomas and Lyons reported that they would prefer that the application
be submitted first before appointing to this Board. Commissioner Howell withdrew
the motion. The Commission concurred to discuss this item at the next meeting.
Planning and Zoning Commission: The City Clerk reported that the terms of James R.
Valerino, Otto Garrett and Michael Skat expire on June 30, 1996.
Commissioner Howell moved to re-appoint James R. Valerino, Otto Garrett and Michael
Skat to the Planning and Zoning Commission. Seconded by Commissioner Thomas and
carried by the vote of the Commission as follows:
Commissioner Eckstein Aye
Commissioner Thomas Aye
Commissioner Howell Aye
Commissioner Lyons Aye
Waterfront Master Plan Steering Committee: The City Clerk reported that the terms
of Kay Bartholomew, Jack W. Wert, Linda A. Keeling, Gary Briggs, Chuck Volk and
Bill Barwick expire June 28, 1996. Plus, there is one vacancy for a term to expire
June 28, 1996.
Jay Marder, Director of Planning and Development, reported that recommendations
will be submitted for the next meeting. He further reported that Kay Bartholomew,
Linda A. Keeling, Chuck Volk and Bill Barwick are willing to be re-appointed.
Commissioner Howell moved to re-appoint Kay Bartholomew, Linda A. Keeling, Chuck
Volk and Bill Barwick to the Waterfront Master Plan Steering Committee. Seconded
by Commissioner Thomas and carried by the vote of the Commission as follows:
Commissioner Eckstein Aye
Commissioner Thomas Aye
Commissioner Howell Aye
Commissioner Lyons Aye
Consent Agenda.
Request for payment of statement.
pay.
The City Manager recommended authorization to
(i)
From Muller, Mintz, et al for profeSsional services from
4/3/96 thru 4/11/96 ............................ $ 393.30
On motion of Commissioner Howell, seconded by Commissioner Thomas and carried by
vote of the Commission as follows:
Commissioner Eckstein Aye
Commissioner Thomas Aye
Commissioner Howell Aye
Commissioner Lyons Aye
the Commission approved payment of the statement.
Information regarding invoices paid during the period for previously apDroved lumD sum
contracts. Commissioner Howell moved to acknowledge the nine (9) invoices totalling
$19,203.43. Seconded by Commissioner Thomas and carried by vote of the Commission as
follows:
Commissioner Eckstein Aye
Commissioner Thomas Aye
Commissioner Howell Aye
Commissioner Lyons Aye
NPDES Stormwater Permit, as discussed at tonight's Work Session. On recommendation of the
City Manager, Commissioner Howell moved to authorize execution of the Seminole County NPDES
Stormwater Permit Part II Application. Seconded by Commissioner Lyons and carried by the
vote of the Commission as follows:
Commissioner Eckstein Aye
Commissioner Thomas Aye
Commissioner Howell Aye
Commissioner Lyons Aye
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for Hydraulic Analysis for 46A
Reclaimed Water Distribution Main. On recommendation of the City Manager, Commissioner
Howell moved to authorize execution of Amendment #46, to the original contract with Conklin,
Porter and Holmes dated December 7, 1983, for Hydraulic Analysis for 46A Reclaimed Water
Distribution Main in lump sum amount not to exceed $12.,452.00. Seconded by Commissioner
Thomas and carried by the vote of the Commission as follows:
Commissioner Eckstein Aye
Commissioner Thomas Aye
Commissioner Howell Aye
Commissioner Lyons Aye
Street sign replacements in the Historic District. Commissioner Howell inquired regarding
the removal/replacement of signs in the Historic District. He stated that the previous signs
had raised letters and an ornament on top. Further, he feels that if the City is going to
do something in the Historic District, the City should appear before the Historic
Preservation Board the same as the City did for the lights at the Cultural Arts Center.
Also, he felt the City should not go through the Historic District removing signs, and that
he had received several calls from residents regarding these signs. Commissioner Eckstein
reported he was opposed to the City being required to go before the Historic Preservation
Board to approve the City's signs; it sets a dangerous precedent; and this should be
discussed at a Work Session. Commissioner Howell stated the City would have final approval
as usual. He considered it a courtesy for the City to go before the Historic Preservation
Board the same as when the City requested that the Historic Preservation Board inspect the
log cabin before the City considered demolition of it. City Manager reported that part of
his concern is the City directed we go to aluminum reflective signs throughout the city to
comply with the Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices, which calls for reflective signs.
Further, our signs cost $20.00 Per intersection, the pressed steel sign costs approximately
$50.00 per intersection. As an alternative, we could use a stamped aluminum based sign,
which would meet the Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices requirement and still be
reflectorized at a cost of $75.00 per intersection. The City Manager suggested it would be
better to discuss this matter at a Work Session, rather than refer it to the Historic
Preservation Board. Commissioner Eckstein asked if there is any interest in seeking a
special assessment district to pay for signs. Staff has been directed to cease replacement
of said signs in the historic district.
Code Enforcement. Commissioner Lyons requested that code enforcement concerns be placed on
next agenda for discussion. He further stated that code enforcement is not handled equally
in all areas of the City; and we need to make sure enough money and time is spent equally in
Commissioner Howell reported that code enforcement in the City is
not enough follow-through and more people are needed in code
all areas of the City.
super poor; there is
enforcement.
Street signs removal/replacement in the Historic District. The City Manager requested and
received clarification of Commissioner Eckstein's request regarding street signs in the
historic district to be placed on a Work Session agenda for discussion regarding special
assessment district and hold up on installing new ones. In response to Commissioner Howell's
inquiry, Public Works Director Jerry Herman reported that the aluminum caps from the top of
the old signs are in the scrap pile as they do not function with the new sign.
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Amendment %45, with Conklin, Porter and Holmes re: U~8_ate of the Westerly Sewer Study. On
recommendation of the City Manager, Commissioner Howell moved to approve Amendment #45 for
engineering services in connection with an Update of the Westerly Sewer Study in the amount
Seconded by Commissioner Thomas and carried by the vote of the commission as
Commissioner Eckstein Aye
Commissioner Thomas Aye
Commissioner Howell Aye
Commissioner Lyons Aye
Conservation Easement re: Seminole Community College. The City Manager reported that in
1995, the City Commission authorized granting of a conservation easement to the St. Johns
River Water Management District for Seminole Community College for wetlands mitigation for
road construction from Lake Mary Boulevard down to the college which will be the locus of a
new City reclaimed water pipeline and potable water pipeline. Mr. Vavreck, Vice President
of Administration, has advised the City by letter that the St. Johns River Water Management
District is requesting approximately 16 acres more.
On recommendation of the City Manager, Commissioner Lyons moved to execute and
deliver to the college an additional conservation easement not to exceed 16 acres, located
at Site 10 immediately west of the 32 acres previously granted, with the understanding that
the college will provide all the engineering and surveying necessary to mark the corners of
the new parcel as required by the St. Johns River Water Management District, and will provide
legal descriptions. Seconded by Commissioner Howell and carried by the vote of the
Commission as follows:
Commissioner Eckstein Aye
Commissioner Thomas Aye
Commissioner Howell Aye
Commissioner Lyons Aye
Legislative Issue. The City Manager reported receipt of a legislative order from the Florida
League of Cities requesting the adoption of a Resolution asking Governor Chiles to veto House
Bill No. 557 which provides for presumptions regarding the accuracy in the property
appraisers' appraisals. This is an unfunded mandate that will increase ad valorem revenues
between 70 to 160 million with an annualized loss of between 208 to 480 million dollars
across the state. The purpose is to ask the governor to veto this to allow time for studying
and refining With possible adoption next year. After being read by title, Commissioner
Howell moved to adopt Resolution No. 1732, entitled:
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF SANFORD, FLORIDA,
SUPPORTING THE VETO OF HB 557 "PRESUMPTION OF
CORRECTNESS" ("BURDEN OF PROOF").
Seconded by Commissioner Thomas and carried by the vote of the Commission as follows:
Commissioner Eckstein Aye
Commissioner Thomas Aye
Commissioner Howell Aye
Commissioner Lyons Aye
Recreation Bus Contract. On recommendation of the City Manager, Commissioner Howell moved
to award a contract to Zaffran Bus Company in the amount of $2,730.00, which includes
insurance and bus driver, for bus usage during the 1996 Summer Programs. Seconded by
commissioner Thomas and carried by the vote of the Commission as follows:
Commissioner Eckstein Aye
Commissioner Thomas Aye
Commissioner Howell Aye
Commissioner Lyons Aye
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Sica Nacu, 1011 Park Avenue, appeared and stated that she is disappointed in the
way the Commission handled her appeal, that she carefully prepared for this hearing, and that
Sending her back to the Historic Preservation Board is sending her back to a group of
volunteer people who are very shallow in their expertise. Ms. Nacu further reported that she
was treated unfairly by the Historic Preservation Board; she was not allowed to talk at the
hearing other than stating her name and address; her neighbors were present, which presented
a conflict of interest; and Mr. Paul Porter, an engineer and the only board member she feels
is qualified, was not opposed to her request. She stated that the Historic Preservation
Board is not doing a good job because the Board discourages anyone from wanting to improve
their property in the historic district. Ms. Nacu stated she will not go back to the
Historic Preservation Board, and requested permission to readdress the City Commission on
this matter.
Commissioner Eckstein inquired if the Commission was violating any due process as
far as this potential hearing is concerned. Assistant City Attorney Simmons reported he
thinks so, as this issue has been remanded to the Historic Preservation Board to create a
more detailed record, and to discuss further or have members of the Board speak would be in
violation.
Kimberly Capucille, 810 South Myrtle Avenue, a member of Code Enforcement Board and
the Historic Preservation Board, appeared to address Commissioner Lyons' concerns regarding
code enforcement. She stated that this Board handles hundreds of complaints; no one area is
getting more attention than any other; code enforcement is only handled by one (1) person
with very little clerical support; and recommendations are made based on information
received.
Commissioner Lyons stated he is an ardent supporter of code enforcement; that he
has been trying to find out why we are having problems with code enforcement; and that he has
pushed for code enforcement to have the equipment and personnel' required to handle code
issues. He further stated he would like to find out where monies are being spent and if
there's a problem, we need to find solutions.
Kimberly Capucille stated it is very difficult for code enforcement to operate
effectively as it is now, and that it needs more money and more people. Commissioner Howell
stated that code enforcement probably needs its own department.
Kimberly Capucille then addressed concerns regarding the Historic Preservation
Board. Ms. Capucille stated that the Board is not punitive and that it listens to people;
there are many on the Board who have experience and are knowledgeable; and that it is
important for the City Commission to support the Board and its decisions, since the Board was
appointed by the City.
Steven Myers, 1707 Oak Avenue, appeared to comment regarding two (2) issues, code
enforcement and street signs in the historic district. He stated that he supports the motion
of creating another position for a code enforcement officer as he has lived in Sanford for
approximately 6 years and still has many problems in his area.
Commissioner Howell asked the City Manager the status of the code enforcement
officer the Commission approved. The City Manager reported the additional position is
currently in the process for review and-approval, and the City did not have a position
description for a code enforcement officer as the previous contractual/temporary person did
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permanent position requires Civil Service Board review and approval of the new position
description and this is being done. Further there is one (1) code enforcement officer
operating now, the other has not been hired.
Steven Myers then addressed his concerns regarding street signs in the historic
district; and reported if the historic district is to be an asset, it needs to be protected
and maintained. Mr. Myers stated that the old street signs are being replaced only because
of the new program of updating which is not recognized as being one of the detrimental things
that affect the neighborhood's appearance. If it was not due to the updating program, there
would be no cost entailed in replacing the signs. He further stated that appearance-wise the
old signs have nothing wrong with them as far as being very rusty or neglected; so, versus
spending extra money on "old style signs" to replace existing signs which are still in good
condition, or spending less money to update them when they are still in good condition, the
City should not continue to replace signs, and should return the old signs to their previous
locations. There would then be no cost involved.
In response to Commissioner Lyons' inquiry, Public Works Director Jerry Herman
reported that the signs are being replaced because of the program of providing identification
numbers.
The City Manager reported that the signs were replaced to comply with the Manual
on Uniform Traffic Control Devices previously approved by the City Commission. He stated the
manual requires the use of reflective signs, which provide the best visibility at night from
a vehicle; payment for signs to be decided by the Commission; and if the Commission chooses
to not conform to this requirement, that can be considered. Commissioner Eckstein requested
this item be referred to a Work Session for further discussion.
Julia Goeb, 117 West 10th Street, appeared to address the issue of street signs.
Ms. Goeb stated that with a lot of issues concerning the historic district, the residents
find out after the fact and are always fussing with the City regarding these kinds of issues.
She suggested the City let the special interest groups in the historic district know of these
issues, so that these groups can have some input, and possibly contribute funds towards these
types of things, and work closer together with the City. She requested that the City hold
off on changes to the signs until the Historic Trust can discuss it. Also, as a member of
the Historic Preservation Board, she stated the Board consists of very concerned and
qualified people; that one man's denial is setting a precedent regarding the attitude of the
Board; and the integrity of the historic district is the most important thing at this point.
The Board tries to do a good job representing the City of Sanford, and needs the Commission's
support in order for the historic homes to maintain their historic integrity.
Sica Nacu appeared to address the flooding problem in the historic district. She
stated that she has made a major investment in restoring the property where the Tea Room is
located; whenever it rains, it floods, and it is impossible for customers to get out of the
car and into the Tea Room. Ms. Nacu stated that floOding and the drainage system should be
the first issues to be considered by the City.
There being no further business%
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