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01.03.02City of Sanford Planning and Zoning Commission AGENDA Thursday, JANUARY 3, 2002 City Commission Chambers, City Hall, Sanford, Florida Regularly Scheduled Meeting 7:00 P.M. 1. Hold a Public Hearing to consider a conditional Use request by JP Pets for property located at 210 -212 Sanford Avenue in a SC-3, special Commercial Zoning District for wholesale and storage of non - venomous reptiles. Tax Parcel lumber: 2 -1 -- AG -oo1 -0110 Property Owners: Frederick Cohen, Trustee and Fayge S. Cohen, Trustee Representative: Steven H. coover - Hutchison, Mamele & eoover, P.A. 2A. Hold a Public Hearing to consider a conditional Use request for the proposed Live oak center subdivision located at 3780 Orlando Drive to allow open drainage cuts below the seasonal high water table within a secondary wellfield protection zone. Tax Parcel Numbers: 11-20-30-300-018G-0000, 11-20-30-300-018G-0000 11 -2 0- 0- 300 -01 8G -0000 Property Owners: BILL Investments and JW Doyle - VBR, Inc. Representative: Roger strcul a, P.E. - Upham, Inc. 213. Consider the Preliminary subdivision Plan for the Live oak Center, a proposed 5 lot commercial subdivision located at 3780 Orlando Drive. Tax Parcel lumbers. 11-20-30-300-018G-0000 11-20-30-300-018G-0000 11 -20- 0-300-018 G -0000 Property owners: BML Investments and J.W. Doyle - V S , Inc. Representative: Roger Strcula, P.E. - Upham, Inc. 3. consider the site Plan for 525 Fulton street, a 1,920 square foot office building relocated from W. 1 street. Tax Parcel Number: 2 -1 - - AG- 0108 -0040 Property owners: Cecil A II and Margaret Tucker Representative: Greg Crawford, P.E. - Engineering Design Group, Inc. 4. Minutes 5. Any other business from floor or Commission Members 6. Reports from Staff. ADVICE TO THE PUBLIC. If a person decides to appeal a decision made with respect to any matter considered at the above meeting or hearing, he may rued a verbatim record of the proceedings including the testimony and evidence, whi ch record is not provided by the City of Sanford (FS 286.0105) Persons with d isabi I 11ties needing assistance to partl cl pate in any of these proceedi ngs should contact the personnel office ADA coordinator at 330 -5626, 48 hrs in advance of the meeting. F:\ZONINGuA GENDA oo Nol -o3.o .wpd MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF JANUARY 3, 2002 7:00 PM. CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS CITY HALL, SALFORD, FLORIDA MEMBERS PRESENT: Michael Sl at Otto Garrett Carol Dennison Robert Carraway Rarni Yosefian Gary Lowell Andrew Iut Ross Robert Kevin Hipes MEMBER ABSENT: Bobby VonHerbulis - excused O THERS PRESENT: Russ Gibson, Land Development Manager Nick ale ich, Planner Mary Muse, recording Secretary Mr. Skat called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M. The first item on the Agenda was to hold a Public Hearing to consider a Conditional Use request by JP Pets for property located at 210-212 Sanford Avenue in a SC-3, Special Commercial Zoning District for wholesale and storage of non - venomous reptiles. Ir. Sat stated that Steve Cooper, representative for JP Pets, sent a letter requesting the conditional use to be tabled because of some additional items that are needed. Mr. Robert moved to table, as requested, until the next meeting. Mr. Rutz seconded. All in favor. Motion to table carried. The next item was to hold a Public Dearing to consider a Conditional Use request for the proposed Live Oak Center Subdivision located at 3780 Orlando Drive to allow open drainage cuts below the seasonal high water table within a secondary wellfield protection zone. MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF JANUARY 3, 2002 PAGE Roger Str ula, Upham Inc., started that he concurs with staff's recommendations. The wet detention system will comply with City and St. John's Natter Management. It will be the same type of system as lberts n's next door. It is a permanent wet detention area without water circulation. The area will be fenced and the landscaping will be consistent with lberts n's. Mr. Gibson stated that the Utility and City Engineers are okay with the request and felt there was no danger to the water system. Mr. Skat stated that he would like to see the detention areas dressed -up for those who travel along Live Oak Blvd. Also, he would like it to be consistent will all developments. There being no others to speak in favor of or in opposition, Mr. Hipes moved to approve with staff's recommendations. Mr. Robert seconded. All in favor. Motion carried. The next item was to consider the Preliminary Subdivision Plan for the Live Oak Center, a proposed 5 lot commercial subdivision located at 3780 Orlando Drive. Roger Str ula, Upham, Inc. stated that he has reviewed staff's recommendations and there are several items that he would like to make comments on. The property consists of 29.9 acres, which includes 2 outparcels along 17-92 on lots 1 & 2, Lw's on lot 3, retention pond on lot 4, and an outparcel on lot 5. There will be parking in the front. The Lowe's store will be 180,000- sq. ft., which includes the garden center. The garden center will be screened and the lumber area will have a covered drive thru area. The outparcels are large enough for restaurants. They will be exceeding the City's minimum setback requirements along the residential lots. There will be a -ft. wall between the store and the -ft. natural vegetation area behind the residential lots. Regarding comment #2 on staff's recommendations regarding the Fire Station being developed as part of an outparcel of this subdivision, there needs to be further clarification because this property is not included with what is under contract or under L we's domain for acquisition. Mr. Gibson stated that the Fire Station is surrounded by the proposed subdivision. The Fire Station site reeds to be part of the Master Plan so it can be developed individually. If left by itself, there will be tremendous challenges to develop the lot due to it being non-conforming and also it may become an unmaintained piece of property. Mr. S at was concerned about the additional cost to this developer. Mr. Str ula does not want to sacrifice property from L we's to make the lot where the Fire Station is conforming. Lwe's will want to control what is in front of their building. Mr. Gibson stated that staff would possibly be able to work with the owner regarding the setback for the building on the Fire Station property. The Fire Station property is -ft wide. MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF JANUARY 3, 2002 PAGE 3 Lion Huber, Windermere, FL, currently has the property under contract for the Lw's store. About four or fire months ago when they first contracted with this property, they were under the understanding the City was going to sell the Fire Station and made inquiries. At that time they were told the property was under contract through a verbal obligation that the City Commission had made to someone. That person also is the person they are dealing with for the Low's property. Subsequent, they have offered the Fire Station property, for quite a bit of money, for L w 's to buy. L w 's is working with staff to comply with the egress and ingress issues. Lw's needs to get started on this project. They should not be locked in with the Fire Station property. They also would like the board to consider a right -in /right -out between lots 1 and 2. Mr. Skat stated that he was concerned about a verbal contract for the Fire Station. The board needs to get L w 's going. Mr. Gibson stated than since the Fire Station property is non- conforming, Planning and Zoning would have to consider any request for the use of the property once the city leaves the building, While the Fire Station is active, Loge's can not interfere with the ability for it to function. Mr. Luber distributed a drawing to the board members regarding the consideration of the right - in /right- out between lots 1 and 2. It does not meet the city standards for a -mile per hour speed limit. They are 15 ft. under the requirement with a 230 -ft. right turn lane. Mr. Str ula stated that L w 's plans to start construction June of this year. Based on discussions with Staff, the Fire Station should be un- operational. dal -Mart will be installing the new traffic signal at their new entrance at RaceTrack and the flashing lights will be removed in front of the Fire Station. Mr. Gibson stated that he has been told the Fire Station would be gone. The next comment Mr. Str ula wanted to discuss was item #4 regarding discouraging pass thru traffic between Live Oak Blvd and US 17-92. In meeting with the Fire Chief and City Engineer, they have provided additional stop conditions on the drive lane to slow the traffic down. There is not much more than can do. Mr. Gibson stated that he spoke with Mr. VonH rbulis regarding this item and Mr. VonHerbulis stated that there is a possibility of utilizing the Al rtson's curb cut along Live Oak Blvd and utilizing the cross accessing between the properties. Mr. Str ula stated they tried that, but it can't be used for the truck traffic for receiving. The next comment Mr. Str ula wanted to discuss was item #5 regarding the buffer between the existing single family residential properties shall include a minimum -t. brick wall and additional landscaping of a minimum 10-ft. in height at installation. L w 's would like to use CMU, not brick. It would be stucco and painted to match the building or be split - faced. The board concurred with the change. Also, the 10-ft. minimum height for landscaping, does staff MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF JANUARY 3, 2002 PAGE 4 mean trees or hedges? Mr. Gibson stated that it could be a type of myrtle hedge. Mr. Str ula stated that the 2 -ft, natural conservation area can not be touched per St. John's Water Management. The wall is offset 2 -ft. from the -ft. natural area. The next comment Mr. Str ula wanted to discuss were items #6 and #7 regarding cross access between all proposed lots including fire station and subdivision shall have no more than two access points to STS 17 -92 subject to FIT approvals. Mr. Strula stated there are two cross access points, which are at the RaceTrack end and at the lbrtsn's end, with the additional right-in/right-out between lots 1 and 2. Mr. Gibson stated that there will be no more than two access points to this property. If the developer wants the right -in /right -out access between lots 1 and 2, they will have to request this to be tabled for review or they can apply and came back at a later time as a revision to the overall subdivision plan. Mr. Str ula stated that they do not want to table, they want to continue. Mr. Lowell questioned the 150 -sq. ft. sign along Live Oak Blvd. He thought it was a big sign for that scale of a road on the back of a project compared to what would be along 1 -92 on an appropriate scale. Also, between lots 1 and 2, maybe the signage could be combined together instead of each having a sign. Mr. Gibson stated that even though there is no problem with sharing si there was a previous subdivision that was approved which allowed each parcel to have their own signage. Mr. Strula stated than the signage near the 1aTrak is 15C-sq. ft., which is the main sign. The sign on Live Oak Blvd could be changed to a smaller sign of 100 sq. ft. Even though they are not within the Lake Mary Corridor, they will adhere to it. Mr. Lowell moved to approve the project per staff recommendations except the references to the Fire Station be eliminated (item #2 only), the masonry brick wall be allowed to have split face or masonry to match the building, and the sign on Live Oak Blvd. be a 10C-sq. ft. maximum. Mr. Robert seconded. All in favor. Motion carried. Mr. Gibson stated that there would be further mitigation on the Fire Station through the process. The next item was to consider the Site Ilan for 525 Fulton Street, a 1,920 square foot office building relocated from W. Vt Street. Greg Crawford, Engineering & Design Group, Inc. stated that he concurs with staff recommendations. Mr. Gibson stated that the applicant, Mr. Youngblood, entered into a development agreement with the City Commission to alloy the building to be relocated to this location prior to Planning and Zoning considering the site plan. MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF JANUARY 3, 2002 PAGE 5 Mr. Robert moved to -approve per staff's recommendations. fir. Y s fian seconded. All in favor. Motion carried. Mr. fia-n moved to approve the Minutes. Ms. Dennison seconded. All in favor. Motion carried. Mr. Lowell stated that the wall pack lights on the Tuffy's store on W. 1' Street need to be shielded because they are shinning onto SR 46. Mr. Balevich stated that he is currently working with the contractor regarding additional landscaping to shield the doors. He will get with the contractor regarding shielding the lights. Mr. Robert moved to nominate Mike Skat as Chairman. Mr. Hips seconded. Nominations closed. All in favor. M ti n carried. Mr. Skat questioned the C A Mr. Gibson stated that he will coordinate with the Economic Development Coordinator and obtain reports for the board. Mr. Gibson stated that Staff is proposing to implement a procedural notification to the alternate members on an alphabetical rotation basis if they are needed at the meeting. Mr. Skat stated that it will be important to call the members on Monday in order to n rtify the alternate so they will have time to g' through the packet. Mr. Carraway stated that he would like to hear from Howard Jeffries, Parks Department. Mr. Gibson stated that Mr. Jeffries did attend one of the meetings. It may be possible to have Howard Jeffries or Mike Kirby present, if needed. Mr. Skat stated that when there is a controversial issue on the agenda, maybe a particular board (such as HP B, Waterfront Redevelopment) should be notified if they have any issues or concerns they may want to send a representative to speak on behalf of their board. There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 8:30 P.M. iTichael Skat, Chairman