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11.16.00lCity ofSanf 'od Planning and Zoning ' 2n2rms on Rev Scheduled Ieetix 7:00 P.M. Thursday, Nov er 16, 2000 City Coffunission Chambers, City Mall, Sanford, Florida AGENDA 1. Hold a Public Hearing to consider a request to Rezone property located at 950 vihien Road from AG, Agriculture to S -'l , Single Fatally Dwelling Residential. ntial. TABBED ON NP EM E R 2 1 2000 Tax Parcel lumber: 33-19- -AE-0A Property Owner: Ed V. Turner, Jr. Representative: Craig f ouhier 2. Hold a Public Fearing to consider a request to Rezone property located at loo E. Lake Mary Blvd. from MR-3, Multiple Family Dwelling Residential, to that of GO -2, General Commercial. Tax Parcel Number: 12-20-30-300-012Q-0000 Property Owner: Huntington Properties Investments, Inc. Representative: Ron Howse, P.E. 3. Hold a Public Hearing to consider a request for a conditional Use for property located at 200 Persimmon Avenue within a GC 2, General Commercial Zoning District, for the purpose of parking dump trucks. Tax Parcel Number: 26-19-30-300-004D/E-0000 Property Owner: Levi A. & Carol A. Coombs Representative: entative: Roland R. Jernigan 4. Hold a Public Dearing to consider a request for a eondMonai Use for property located at 910 Desoto Drive within a SR -1, Single Family Dwelling Residential Zoning District, for the purpose of a duplex. Tao Parcelurnber: 01-20-30-504-2300-0090 Propert Anne E. Stanih Representative: entative: L.eo C. [nelson, Jr. 5. Hold a Public Hearing to consider a request for a eonditlonai Use for property located at boo W, Airport Blvd. within a GC-2, General Commercial mercial Zoning District, for the purpose of multiple family dwelling. Tax Parcel Number 0 - - 0- 1 A00 -0000 Property Owner: ZOM Companies Representative: Madden Engineering, Inc. 6. Any other business from floor or Commission Members 7. Reports from Staff. ADWE TO THE PUBLIC. If a person decides to appeal a d cielon made with respect to any (natter cons#d d at the above mee#h or hearing, he may need a verbaft record of the proceedings including the stimoW and evidence, which record is not pr vMed by the city of Sanford (FS 286.0105} Persom with OwbINUm needing aasin once to participate In any of ti a proceWhW should coact the persons # affkm ADA coOMInator at 330-56269 48 bra In advance of the me ing. MENUTE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEET ING F NOVEMBER 1, 2000 FM. CITY C OMMISSION CHAMBERS CY17Y HALL, SANFORD, FLORIDA MEMBERS PRESENT: R oss Robert Kel vin Hipes Andrew Kut Carol D ermis on Otto Garrett Janes V alerino MEMBERS ABS E NT: Bobby vonHerbulis-e Nfichael Skat-exc Ta* nothy Hudson QjURS I!RESENT: Jay Marder, Director of Engineering and P la�nir�g Russ Gibson, Land Development Manager Marion Anderson, Recording Secretary Mr. valerino called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M. The first item on the Agenda was to hold a Public Taring to consider a request to Rezone property located at 950 vihlen Toad from AG, Agriculture, to S - I. Single Family Dwelling esidentiaL Tabled on November 2, 2000. Mr. Robert made a motion to remove from the table. Seconded by fir. Kutz. All in favor. Motion carried. Ted Buckley, Florida Land Design, Inc., 222 Wesnne Drive, Alt Springs, was present. He Mated that following the first meeting, they had an opportunity to meet with the Homeowner Association's representatives. He presented a revised site plan to the Director of Engineering and p ' and has proposed to include within a development order that all properties abutting Idyllwilde Subdivision be a rrr im uxn of 10,000 square feet. They are wing to agree that Yx ix'u'n square foot ages f the houses t be constructed would be 1500 square feet. They have n problem with the concept of severing vehicular access to Dogwood give. MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF NOVEMBER 16, 2000 PA. GE 2 The lots that front onto Dogwood would have a frontage of 85 wear feet. M[r+ Buckley stated that they agree to include within the Development Order that any areas that abut Idyllwilde Subdivision that a 6 ' high white vinyl fence be constructed by the bu ilder prior to C.O. during the construction of hoes. He stated that they are down to 70 lots in this subdivision which is slightly less than 2 1 /2 dwelling units per gross acre. Ms. Dennison questioned the width of the road that leads to Lots 40 41, 42 and 43. Mr. Buckley stated that this would be a standard o' platted right-of-way up to Lot 40 where it would then reduce down to a o' right - - way. They would be required to put the white vinyl fence along the southern side of Lot 40 and as a fimction of doing this, they would also provide a barricade with landscaping at the terminus of this right Ms. Dennison stated that another concern is the new goad and Dogwood Drive going beside Lot 9. She asked how can they meet the mm*imurn setbacks and meet the 1500 square feet. Nft. Buckley stated that man of the interior lots would have to be two -story in order to meet the rrnr�, requirements and meet the nrn xn standards for the price range that they are propo L ots and 39 are itn S- I AA lots with a minim of frontage and 10 ,,000 square feet o area. He stated that they have not identified any situation where there will be a need for setback variances. Mr. Buckley stated that they would like to go with a consistent type of fence and geed that while there are no code requirements to screen residential from agriculturally zoned properties, in order to meet the owners part way, they would like to screen a section of the subdivision from the nursery operation. Regarding the barricade and landscaped strip, there are a number of difF types of barricades that are called single crash barriers. They wiH refer to Staff as to what type i preferred. A l Greer, 309 Dogwood Drive, in opposition to the request, handed out two exhibits, A & % which expressed some of the concerns of the residents of Idyllwilde. He stated that they would like to e e any future use of the exit, the entrance or the barrier that is being proposed. They would like for Dots 40 and 41 to be reorganized s o that they would open directly into the applicant's neighborhood and would not face Dogwood Drive. He stated that they would Eke t see the whole cormnunity upgraded to SR-1 AA. He asked if Lot 32 is actually the 85' standard for SR- I AA lot size, I Ir. Green stated that they would like to have a fence around the project a they had discussed with the applicant. He questioned the longevity of the vinyl fence opposed to what they would like to have, a block wall. He requested that this development only have in through vlen Road. fix. Green stated that they are also concerned with the drainage behind Idyllwilde Lots 5, 6 and 7. MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING CONIlVIISSION MEETING OF NOVEMBER 16, 2000 PAGE 3 Bruce Grbbin, 114 Maplewood Drive, spoke in opposition. He stated that he is concerned with the drainage behind Lots 5 and 6 of Idyllwilde. At this point, it is very wet and there is mud there now. They do not want this subdivision putting more water on these lots. fir. Hipes questioned Staff as to deleting the emergency entrance and having the one entrance, 1Ir. Gibson stated that this was discussed at a Staff` meeting and it is acknowledged that there is some benefit to have certain connectivity between subdivisions, certainly with regard to infrastructure that will be needed in this case. It would be beneficial to consider a road and perhaps a r nim urn pedestrian connectivity. It is not necessary to have the crash barrier as far as emergency services. Ashby .Tones, 105 Maplewood Drive, was not able to attend the meeting but his written comments totally opposing this request were entered into the record. Dill Cray, 313 Northwood, stated that now that they understand that the emergency barricade is not required, they would appreciate the C onr ssio n eonsiderxng a c ul -de- sac at this point. Jim Briar, 113 Aberdeen, asked if there would be sanhary sewer, storm sewer and other connections to be interfaced into the existing City systems. He stated that they have had a lot of sanhary sewer problems in Section 4 and have had flooding. Gene Bor 202 Dogwood, noted that they have had water pressure problems and flooding. He asked why can't this be a completely enclosed subdivision with .gress egress on ViWen Road. He would like to see a brick wall from the house on the corner of Maplewood and Dogwood completely down to Elder Road past Lot 40. Annette Lo nnerse, 631 Ups, la road, stated that she would like to see a block or brick wall around the entire subdivision for security reasons. She would lire to see larger lots along the entire vest side of the property. Pat Donaldson, 209 Dogwood Drive, stated that his lot has a spur that goes all the way through the curare of Dogwood which would make the crash gate kTo ible. He is not happy having a retention pond next door to him. Nancy Peterson, 109 Larkood Drive, asked if anyone had considered the impact on the school and the traffic. It as getting more and more crowded. She stated that there is a lot of flooding around her house. when there is a lot of she has had back -ups in her house. She wouldn't mind seeing less homes and larger lots. NIINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COIVIIVIISSION MEETING OF NOVEMBER 16, 2000 PACGE 4 Ted Buckley stated that they can redesign the site plan to acconunodate a cul -de -sac at that proposed entrance. Regarding Lot 32, no matter how age in width it is m ade, there would AM be one house on that lot abutting the Idyllwilde Subdivision. when the fence is erected, Lot 32 will not be visible from any part of Idyllwilde Subdivision. He stated that almost the entire property is down hill from the Idyllwilde Subdivision. The retention area will be the recipient of some of the subsurface drainage. The down hill construction will probably go a long way to dr out some of the lots in Idyllwilde. Mr. Buckley stated that they have looked at the unities in the area. There is a problem with the sewer. The lift station will exit out by way of a force main that will go out to vihln and connect with the City's force main on Upsala. As far as the water is concerned, they will actually be doing Idyllwdde a favor by connecting water lines. It will provide a redundancy of the water supply because the water will be brought in from a different point and connect back to the Idyllwilde system. l &. Buckley stated that Lots 37, 38 and 39 will be 85 wide lots. There 's presently a substandard douse on Lot 37. The retention ponds will be dry ponds. He stated that they are willing to go the faU extent of the western side of the property with the white vinyl fence which will include Lots 32 tbru 11. Ms. Dennison stated that she is concerned about Lot 32. The size of it would require a two -story Home. It would look directly down on the neighbors with s pools. This doesn't make good neighbors either especially as close to the lot line as it would have to be. She asked if they would have to haul in fill. Mr. Buckley stated that they are under a mandate by the developer to try to make the site balance. The building pads would be elevated above the roadway per code requirements, but the roadway elevations are intended to remain thoroughly close to existing grade. Mr. Robert moved to recommend a pproval to the City Commission of the request to rezone the Turner Wilkes property subject to the fohowin : Development Order that Staffs recommends, an a pproved Prel kninary Subdivision Ilan and all other submissions that have to cone with it, and that all development will be in accordance with the approved Subdivision Improvement Fly, and also at the Developer's representation verbally, here tonight at P and Zoning, to be a part of it, especially concerning the 8 5' lots for Lots 3' , 3 8, and 3 9 and that a full width vinyl fence across the entire west side be a part of it, and a deed restriction that Lot 32 be improved only with a one -story home, and that Florida Land and Design November 1 letter so submitted tonight be part of the reconmwn&tion and in addition, the letter to Jay l ar er, and also the fence along the west property line be installed at the time of the development C.O. as opposed to the homes C.O. seconded by Mr. Hipes for discussion. �&. Hipes questioned the cul-de-sac. Mr. Robert MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF NOVEMBER 1b, 2040 P_ AGE 5 amended his motion to yes to the cul-de-sac at Lot 40 and no through access and no crash barrier be included. Mr. Hipes asked if the house for Lot 32 can be reduced to one -story and still maintain 1500 square feet. fir. Robert stated that he would like to leave it as it is. I &. Hipes seconded the amended notion* fix. Garrett asked if something could be done about lr. onaldson's trouble with retention, to get it further away from his lot. lair. Robert stated that he felt that, when the Developer explained that it will be dry retention and that the homeowner had explained that his house is on the Front 200' and since that does pop -off within a 72 hour period mandated to the same creek behind his house, it wasn't a problem. He stated that this would be looked at at the time of site plan. All in favor. Lotion carried. The next item on the Agenda was to hold a Public Hearing to consider a request to Rezone property located at 700 E. Lake Mary Blvd. from MR-3, Multiple Family Dwelling Residential, to that of GC -2, General Commercial. Ron Dowse, 1100 N. Thin Street, Kissinnrnee, was present. Nk. Hipes moved for approval per Staff's comnients. Seconded by Mr. Kut . All in favor. Motion carried. Next on the Agenda was a Public Nearing to consider a request for a Condition Use for property located at 200 Persimmon Avenue within a GC-2, General Commercial Zoning District, for the purpose of pang dump trucks. Ron Jernigan, 215 E. F" Street, Sanford, was present. He stated that he has worked with Staff, received a copy of the rewmmendations, and prepared to meet them. This wM be a three year lease. Trucks will go out in the moming and back in during the evening. 'Mere will be no activity aver 2:0 p.m. on Saturdays and Sundays. Mr. Robert moved for approval per Staffs s re omm Tien&fions 1, 2, and 3. Seconded by Ms. Dennison. All in favor. Motion carried. The next item was a Public Hearing to consider a request for a Conditional Use for property located at 910 DeS oto give within a SR -1, Single Family Dwelling Residential Zoning District, for the purpose of a duplex. Leo Nelson, 951 Cross Cut way, Longwood, was present. Mr. Gibson explained that the footprint of the building area on these lots would not achieve the rninirr 700 square feet per unit that is required by the City. Staff is reconunending that all MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIQN MEETING OF NOVEMBER 16 200{} PAGE - 6 requirements to construct a two- family dwelling be achieved including the rn rum 700 square feet per unit of living area. This could be achieved with multi -level construction. Another concern in terms of the limited lot area would be to insure that the required off-street parking would be accommodated on each of the two lots. The requirer nt is to have two spaces per unit, four parking spaces per duplex. Susan ,la' al, 2622 El Portal Avenue, stated that this site is opposite her house. She asked how many stories and where wiU cars be parked. She doesn't think two -story buildings are very desirable for their neighborhood. She does not want to -story buildings. Two -story buildings ould have a negative impact on the neighborhood as well as adjacent property values. Mr. Nelson stated that the buildings would be one - story. Mr. Hipes rmved to approve subject to Staffs conmients and that the proposed is to be a one level residence. Seconded by Mr. Robert. All in favor. Motion carved. The next item to be considered was a Public Nearing for a Conditional Use for property located at boo W. Airport Blvd. in a GC-2, General Comnnercial Zoning District, for the purpose of multiple fondly deliing. Charlie Madden, Madden Engineering, was present. He stated that they do not have any problems with Staffs reconnendations. Mr. Gibson stated that Staff is not reconnnending ' wide parking spaces. Part of the request to rezone this included a request to reduce the parking standard. Because of the dynarnics of this site, and the configuration of the property, it was felt not necessary by Staff to grant the 9' parking width at this location. 1 r. Madden cormiwnted that this particular company is the third largest multi- family builder in the nation. what works for then is that this is not enough parking for them It is private property, the Cit in no way has to maintain these parking spaces, it is totally maintained by them He stated that they can meet the 10' parking spaces but because it is private property and it doesn't seem like an unreasonable request if the applicant desires to go to ', it would certainly work fine and would aflow them to have more pang spaces. The Developers have found that 9'parking space size is a very good size for them. Dick Boyer, Soo W. Airport Blvd, stated that he was neither for nor against the request, just an interested party. He asked the height that is being proposed, and the number of units, what bind of bu er will be between the two apartment buiWings and activities along the edge of the apartment between the proposed apartments and village Lakes Apartnwnts. Mr. Madden stated that the maximum height is 3 5. MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING C NINHSSIDI MEETING OP NOVEMBER 16, 2000 PAGE 1 Ir. Hipes moved to approve per Staffs Bo ts. Seconded by I Ir. Robert for discussion. Mr. Hipes stated that the applicant could have 1 o'x2o spaces and would have a project that has under parking. This wo uld be less efficient complex because of our rode. 1 &. Robert stated that he would be willing to go 9 l 'xW or something s imilar in this particular ease which would give them some additional spaces. I &. Kutz stated that the could vary a little. The applicant could diminish the total number of units and could put in a parking ratio that is greater than what is required and accom for the l 0'x20' which would give us the best of both worlds. llrlr. pes withdrew his motion and fir. Robert withdrew his second. fir. I-Iipes moved to approve to approve as is, with no substantial changes to the site plan. Seconded by Mr. Robert. AR in favor. Motion carried. 1 Ir. Marder stated that the Commnission needs to make some type of recommendation to the City Commission regarding absenteeism, specifically as it regards to Mr. Hudson. The City has written him a letter and tried to get in touch with him unsucce s dy. Mr. Valerino rec ri v ended that l &. Hudson be asked to resign and if he doesn't resign, because of his lack of attendance, then he should be removed. So moved by Mr. Hipes. Seconded by Mr. Robert and Ms. Dennison. A favor. Motion carried. There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 9:40 p.m. va, t a :�s Valerino , Vice Chairman