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09.21.00City of Sanford Planning and Zoning Commission Regularly Scheduled Meetine 7:00 P.M. Thursday, September 21, 2000 City Commission Chambers, City Hall, Sanford, Florida AGENDA 1 . Hold a Public Hearing to consider ar request for a Conditional use for property located at 2719 Orlando Drive in a GC -2, General Commercial Zoning District, for the purpose of a recycling collection station. Tax Parcel Number: 1-2 - - '1 - 0000 - C A Property Owner: Sadique Jaffer Representative: R. Casey McKnight 2 . Density Calculations. 3 . Minutes 4 . Any other business from floor or Commission Members 5 . Reports from Staff. ADVICE To THE PUBLIC. If a person decides to appeal a decision made with respect to any matter considered at the above meeting or h arm , h e i s need verbatim record f the �p r eedings including the testimony and eviden which rerd �s r rr�ded b the of Sanford (FS 286.x'1 p City Perso n with disabi nee In ass ! t participate in any f these proceedings s hould nta t the personnel office ADA Coordinator at 330 -562 hrs in advance of the meeting. MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING of SEPTEMBER 21, 2 7:00 P.M. CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS CITY HALL, SANF RD. FLORIDA MEMBERS PRESENT: Ross Robert Carol Dennison Kevin Hipes Bobby VonHerbulis Otto Garrett Andrew Kutz James Valerino M EMBERS ABSENT Michael }t - excused. Timothy Hudson OTHERS PRESENT: Tay M rder, Director of Engineering and Planning Antonia Gerli, Senior Planner Marion Anderson, Recording Secretary Mr. Vlerino called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M. The first item on the Agenda was to hold a Public Hearing to consider a request for at Conditional Use for property located at 2719 Orlando Drive in a GC-2, General Commercial Zoning District, for the purpose of a rec collection station. Casey McKnight, 1001 S. Alexander Road, Plant City, and Keith Henderson, buyer, were present. Ms. Gerli stated that the original Staff report was written prior to the Code Enforcement meeting of September 12 Since that was written, the applicant went to the Code Enforcement Board meeting and provided evidence that the former Land Development Manager had authorized this use. The Code Enforcement Board gave the applicant approval to continue the use until the Planning and Zoning Commission decides on this or until they appeal your decision. Although Staff feels it is an inappropriate use for the 17-92 Corridor, it does feel that the applicant has a justification to continue the use. Staff has conditions for the continued use: the trailers have to MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 21, 2 0ArNV meet all setbacks and buffer requirements, the access requirement, the sign requirements, the landscaping and parking requirements. In addition they would need to install irrigation in the front buffer of the parcel. She stated that staff has heard of information that the property owner has bought the shopping center next door, so Staff would like for him to install irrigation across the front of both of these properties and the City will landscape the right-of -way. Mr. Kutz asked the applicant if he has given any consideration to the enhancement of the appearance. Mr. McKnight stated that the site plan that he submitted with the Conditional Use shows at different layout along with some landscaping. The trailers are rotated every week, 5 to t ri 1 rs' per month. Mr. Kutz asked about an enclosure that the trailers could slide into. Mr. McKnight stated that on the site plan it shows that they will relocate back inside the fenced area, approximately 70 to t off of the road. The area that is presently being used will be used as at drive around . Mr. V nH rbulis stated that this is a major gateway into this community. This needs to be softened or push off of the road. Not only landscaped up around the trailers but do some landscaping at the sidewalk level. We need to make it more presentable than what it is today. Ashok Shony, owner of Pinrst shopping Center, stated that they are in negotiation with a gas station that would like to buy his property. Mr. Sh ny stated that this is absolutely an eyesore, it is like a junkyard. There are no bathrooms. People sleep in the back of the trailers. Broken bottles and cans are always on his property. People come to this location and sit all day and drink. Having a neighbor like this depreciates the value of his property. Mr. VonHerbulis asked Mr. Shony if he had considered putting in a privacy fence so that he or his tenants don { t see this junkyard. Mr. Shony asked how would this remove the eyesore and stated that even with the fence it could still be seen from 17-92. MINUTES PLANING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 21, 2000 DAV Mr. Kutz stated that this is a huge lot and it is a jungle. There is a chain link fence right on the corridor. The City wouldn't allow a building without toilet facilities and a new temporary building wouldn't be allowed at all. Mr. VonHerbulis stated that if someone is conducting business, they would need to have some type facilities. Mr. Marder stated that Staff will take a look at this. Mr~. McKnight passed around a survey that shows the way the property is proposed to be rearranged. It shows that it will not have any conflict with Mr. property. He stated that they will try to buffer their operation by moving 70 to 80 off of the road. Dollar -wise, they add a lot to the community. Mr. Robert stated that he is in favor and that Staff recommends that the applicant jump through quite a few hoops. They have indicated that they are not real happy to jump through and meet all of the setbacks and have big questions with the access, the landscaping, the buffering and the parking requirements. Mr. Robert stated that he has faith in the Staff working with the applicant to end up with a product that is quite a hit better than it is now. He made a motion for approval per all of Staff's write -ups, 1 through 4, and in addition require port - -lets, as in a temporary construction, be on-site, in addition to the other conditions of Staff. Seconded by Mr. V nHerbulis for discussion. Mr. Valerino stated that he can sympathize with them but 5 years is too long for a temporary period to give them time to relocate. His preference would be to dive them 6 months, not make them do anything for the next 6 months, and when they core back in months, we will find out what they did to relocate and if they make no effort to relocate or to look for a place to relocate, them deny the request. Mr. Robert stated that he likes Mr. Valerino's way of thinking on this. He thought the 5 years were great to find a place to relocate, and what Mr. Valerino had said is much more reasonable and withdrew his motion. Mr. VonHerbulis stated that 6 months is a tough tieframe to find a piece of land that meets the zoning. He stated that he is not opposed to a month situation where they have to come back, tell us what they have done to try and find somewhere to relocate and readdress the issue at that point. Mr. Robert withdrew his motion. Mr. onHerbulis withdrew his second. MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 21, PAGE 4 Mr. Robert moved to recommend temporary approval for a maximum period of 6 months of conditional use with the following conditions that after 6 months, the applicant come back and explain their progress in finding a new site to relocate to that might be more acceptable and at that time, after 6 months, we will revisit all of Staff's items and that they do have 1 port-o- potty port- -potty for the use of not only the employees but for their customers. seconded by r. VonHerbulis for discussion. Mr. Garrett stated that he has at problem with the p rt- - potties because it will give the vagrants a place to sleep. Mr. V nH rbulis asked if they have to come back and apply for an additional conditional use application, and pay the fee. Mr. Valerino stated that this was not his intention. Mr. Mard r explained that the Commission could say that the applicant would need to return to the Planning and Zoning Commission in March of 2001 to provide progress, and that the progress would have to be satisfactory with the Planning and Zoning Commission in order to continue the use or relocate. Mr. Robert stated that this is what he wants, in March of 2001 to provide the Planning and Zoning Commission with the progress that would be satisfactory s that it might be continued. Mr. VnHsrbulis seconded. Mr. Kautz opposed. All others in favor. Motion carried. Next on the Agenda were density calculations. Mr. Mardsr explained t pia t the Chairman wanted to defer this but it is up to the Commission. Mr. Kutz stated that this is a tremendous instrument, tool, to study, to help us in moving forward. Staff has done a great job. The writs -up is good. Mr. VnHsrbulis moved to table the density calculations. Seconded by s . Dennison. All in favor. Mot ion carried. Mr. V nHsrbulis moved to approve the Minutes as circulated. Seconded by Mr. Robert. All in favor. Motion carried. Mr. Kutz stated that he had called the City of Savannah and asked how they clot their city so successful. He stated that that City did not use outside consultants, that they did the planning for Savannah with in -house personnel. In their success they have had some significant problems. Next year they are entering into MINUTE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING F SEPTEMBER 21, 2 'D nr-1 P C; master plan activity in order to resolve some parking problems, infrastructure and traffic problems. As part of their new overall master plan for their downtown area, a corridor plan will be accomplished whereby they will reassess all traffic in the community and establish a primary corridor. They said that had this been done as a part of the master plan they probably could have avoided this problem. They did tell Mr. Kutz about two other communities, Columbus, Ga., and Buford, S.C. that had been very successful that are also waterfront properties. He stated that he also heard about Macon, Ga. that was done about two years ago that is pretty successful. One of our Commissioners is very fond of D lr y Beach. Some communities are now beginning to hire consultants in order to be able to get development coordinated up front so they wind up with Savannah type character but eliminate the problems. Mr. Marder stated that Staff has been listening to concerns about the state of the City, in planning, etc. and that Staff has accomplished a lot in the last round of comprehensive planning. In 1993 the City started planning again. It got together a group of people who represented the historic areas, the downtown business/waterfront etc. They came up with a vision type plan which led to the formation of the Waterfront Master Plan Steering Committee. Several different efforts took place after this. A group of students did some really detailed planning of different alternatives, different waterfront type scenarios, phys i al models of buildings. This eventually led to a master plan. This plan was not intended to shover the use of every individual property. It was more intended to show that there could be realistic uses. An extensive report was also done by the students and it all came together and was put into a redevelopment plan that was adopted by the City. It shovers how things could work, how land uses could fit into the downtown, and how things could be used. Mr. Marder stated that a landscape consultant came in and did a plan for the lierwalk that is fairly detailed. We did the ivrwalk Plan, a visioning Plan, and Economic Restructurin Plan, etc. We pulled all of these plans together and Herbert- Halback did a concept, looking at focal points. They also did a MINUTE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING F SEPTEMBER 21, 'D A('!T' complete real estate Market analysis of the Sanford area and Seminole County. They looked at all of the opportunity sites that we have in the downtown area, all along the entire waterfront, that shows the different types of land uses, acreage, and parcels that could be used. There is a redevelopment plan for 1 -2, the Mall, the downtown area, plus there are two master plan redevelopment r j is going n in the Georgetown and Goldsboro areas. We are working with the County to do plains for Celery Avenue and the Silver Lake area. There being no further bus in s , the meeting adjourned at : 5PM . r. J s l rin , Nice Chairman