07.15.99City of Sanford Planning and Zoning Commission
Regularly Scheduled Meeting
7:00 P.M.
Thursday, July 15, 1999
Citv Commission Chambers, Citv Hall, Sanford,, Florida
AGENDA
Hold a Public Hearing to consider a request for a Conditional Use for property located at 1301
Crescent Street in a S -1, Single - Family Residential Zoning District for the purpose of
establishing a Two - Family Dwelling (duplex).
Tax Parcel No: 31-19-31-503-0000-0010
Property Owner: Carlos E. 'alai
Representative: Carlos E. Falaci
2.A. Consider the Preliminary Subdivision Plan for Boulevard Plaza, a commercial subdivision located
at 3786 Orlando Drive (northwest corner of W. Lake Mary Boulevard and US 17-92) in a GC-2,
General Commercial Zoning District.
Tax Parcel Numbers: 11-20-30-300-023A-0000 11 -2 - - I T- 0000 -0230
Property Owners: Sandefur and Associates Ellen E. Thomas
Representatives: Ronald Henson H, P.E. - Design Service Group, Inc./ James W. Bart P
23. Consider the Site Flan for the proposed Boulevard Plaza (Albertson - 's Shopping Center) on Lot
5, Boulevard Plaza located at 3786 Orlando Drive.
2.C. Consider the Site Plan for a proposed Burger King drive -in restaurant on Lot 1, Boulevard Plaza
located at 3788 Orlando Drive.
2.I. Consider the Site Flan for a proposed Ekerd drug store on Lot 2, Boulevard Plaza located at 3798
Orlando Drive.
2.E. Consider the Site flan for a proposed Albertson"s Express gasoline service station on Lot 4,
Boulevard Plaza located at 312 W. Lake Mary Boulevard.
3. Consider the Site Flan for Logan Heights, a proposed 360 unit apartment community located at
700 E. Lake Mary Boulevard in a MR-3, Multiple Family Residential Zoning District.
Parcel Numbers: 12 -2 - - - 12E 12P 12Q 12T 1 A -0000
Property Owner: Huntington Properties & Investments, Inc.
Representative: Kristen Packard and Patrick Monaghan - Vestcor.
4. Minutes.
5. Any other business from floor or Commission Members.
6. Reports from Staff.
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7:00 P.M.
CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS
CITY HALL. SANFORD, FLORIDA.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Carol Dennison
Otto Garrett
James valerino
Kevin Hipes
Ross Robert
Timothy Hudson
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Andrew Kutz - excused
Michael Skat- excused
Hobby VonHerbulis- excused
OTHERS PRESENT:
Jay Marder, Director of Engineering and Planning
Russ Gibson, Land Development Coordinator
Robert Walter, City Engineer
Eileen McDowell, Land Development Inspector
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 7 :00 P.M.
The first item on the Agenda was to hold a Public Hearing to
consider a request for a Conditional Use for property located at
1301 Crescent Street in a SR - 1, Single Family dwelling
Residential. Zoning District for the purpose of establishing a two
family dwelling (duplex). owner /representative: Carlos E.
Palacio.
Carlos Palacio, P.O. Box 677181, Orlando, was present. He stated
that he bought the property in October of 1998 as a duplex.
There was a complaint made to the City that a duplex was
operating in an SR -1 Zone. He contacted the City and had to
apply for a Conditional Use. Mr. Palacio stated that the house
has been there for 7 gears as a duplex. Century 21 sold it to
him as a duplex.
Mr. Marder stated that Staff was recommending denial because the
enclosure that was permitted was never inspected. Windows were
installed with no inspection. There has been add -ons and add -ons
to the structure without permits or inspections. It appears that
it was modified without permits.
Mr. Palacio did not know the square footage of each unit. He
stated that each unit has a separate kitchen, bathroom, and each
has a driveway. There are separate access points. one side has
three bedrooms and the other has two bedrooms. There is only one
power meter. He noted that he has done some painting and some
minor repairs and cleaning. Mr. Palacio stated that the property
was in pretty good condition when he purchased it.
William Fenton, 1800 Washington Avenue, was present and in
opposition to the request. He stated that he is concerned with
the upkeep of lawns, etc. There is an air conditioning unit that
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leaves water on the roadway. The add -ons to the structure were
well before Mr. Palacio bought it. Mr. Fenton stated that he
knows the east side of the structure is not up to code.
David Vinson, 1200 Crescent Street, was present and in
opposition. He stated that he is against a multiple dwelling
unit at this location. one bedroom of the structure is totally
aluminum which includes the roof. It is below grade and built
almost on a curb. The structure is a mosquito hatchery and
cannot possibly meet any types of codes. This will bring the
neighboring property value down.
John Fuller, 1204 Crescent St., was present and in opposition to
the duplex. He noted some of the same concerns as Mr. Vinson and
Mr. Fenton.
Mr. Palacio stated that he is here to comply with City Codes and
to find a solution to his problems. He noted that he does not
live in the neighborhood and wanted everyone happy.
Mr. Robert moved to deny to establish a duplex because of
setbacks and because there weren't any final inspections nor
proof of square footage. Mr. Hipes seconded. All in favor.
Motion carried.
The next item on the Agenda was to consider the Preliminary
Subdivision Plan for Boulevard Plaza, a commercial subdivision
located at 3785 Orlando Drive (northwest corner of W. Lake Mary
Blvd. and US 17 -92) in a GC -2, General Commercial Zoning
District. owner: Sandefur and Associates /Ellen E. Thomas.
Representative: Ronald Henson, II, P.E., Design Service Group,
Inc.
Ron Henson of Design Services Group, 362A S. Grant Street,
Longwood, was present representing Sandefur Properties and also
Albertson's. The property is at the corner of 17 -92 and Lake
Mary Blvd. Sandefur Properties owns roughly 14 acres and
Albertson's own roughly 3 acres. Albertson's retail will occupy
the large lot. Burger King, Eckerds and Albertson's Express will
occupy 3 of the other lots. Each lot will not have their own
driveways. A traffic circulation plan will be provided. A
commercial association will take care of the common areas.
Individual site plans will be submitted. A 15' utility services
easement along all frontages, and corner clips on 17 -92, Lake
Mary Blvd. and Live Oak will be provided. They are working with
Seminole County regarding the access along Lake Mary Blvd. A
traffic signal will be installed at the corner of Live oak Blvd.
and Lake Mary Blvd. Mr. Henson stated that there are a few items
to be resolved on each plan and that they are working on this
now. A traffic study was done originally and the access was
modified. They are providing a right turn lane on 17 -92 and will
not allow exits near this driveway. All lots will share the
benefit of an access drive.
Mr. Hipes moved to approve per staff's comments. Seconded by Mr.
Robert. All in favor. Motion carried.
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The next item was the consideration of the Site Plan for the
proposed Boulevard Plaza (Albertson's Shopping Center) on Lot 5
Boulevard Plaza, located at 3785 Orlando Drive.
Ron Henson represented this request also. He noted that they are
in agreement with Staff's comments.
Mr. Robert moved for approval per staff's recommendations.
Seconded by Mr. Hipes and Mr. Garrett. All in favor. Motion
carried.
The next item on the Agenda was the consideration of the site
plan for a proposed Burger Ring drive -in restaurant on Lot 1
Boulevard Plaza, located at 3788 Orlando Drive.
Ron Henson was the representative for this request.
Mr. Robert moved for approval per staff's recommendations.
Seconded by Mr. Hipes. All in favor, motion carried.
The next item was the consideration of the site plan for a
proposed Eckerd drug store on Lot 2, Boulevard Plaza, located at
3798 Orlando Drive.
Ron Henson was present.
Mr. Garrett moved for approval. Seconded by Ms. Dennison. All
in favor, motion carried.
The next item was the consideration of the site plan for
Albertson's Express gasoline service station on Lot 4, Boulevard
Plaza, located at 312 W. Lake Mary Boulevard.
Ron Henson was present.
Mr. Robert moved for approval per staff's recommendations.
Seconded by Mr. Hudson. All in favor, motion carried.
The next item was the consideration of the site plan for Logan
Heights, a proposed 360 unit apartment community located at 700
E. Lake Mary Blvd., in a MR -3, Multiple Family Residential Zoning
District. owner: Huntington Properties & Investments, Inc.
Representative: Kristen Packard and Patrick Monaghan - Vestcor.
VERBATIM:
Jim Hattaway: My name is Jim Hattaway with Holland and Knight in
Orlando, our address is 200 S. orange Ave. What we'd like
to do tonight is kind of present an entire package to you
through approach. Following myself will be Jim McNeil,
sitting right there, who is also an attorney with Holland
and Knight and will discuss some of the legal and planning
issues involved in this particular project and to give you
kind of a heads up on some things we would like to talk
about. Especially, we disagree with some of the
recommendations of staff, but Mr. McNeil will discuss that
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in greater detail. Following that Ms. Packard, who is the
Vice President of housing development for Vestcor, which is
a Florida corporation. As you can see the setup here will
provide a multi media demonstration of the kinds of projects
that Vestcor has built before and show you the flare and
attitude that Vestcor has when they build and develop.
Also, present in the audience, but not scheduled to speak,
tonight is Patrick Martin [Monoghan], who is one of
Vestcor's project design managers and Jeffrey Garrett,
Developmental Coordinator. We brought them along so that,
should you have questions or comments that are beyond the
three of us, they will be able to answer any questions you
may have. And, what we'd like to do, if I can respectfully
ask you Mr. Chairman, is perhaps we can hold off questions
and comments until all three of us have spoken. Perhaps,
you can see the whole picture and of course, we will answer
any questions or comments that the Board might have. Having
said that, I'd like to yield to Mr. McNeil.
Jim McNeil: Good evening, how y'all doing. Its been two weeks
since we were before you all with the rezoning request, and
as we promised we are here tonight with the site plan. Um,
as you can see from the site plan and the topographic
survey, we are proposing a 360 unit multi family
development, um, off of Lake Mary Blvd. The project has
been a long evolution to get us where we are today. Um, to
point out a few things, so you can see, we've got
approximately 15 buildings on the site and, um, the main
entrance is off of Lake Mary Blvd. Here. If I could for a
second, let me draw your attention to the survey, this, the
survey that you also have in your pack, to give you an idea
about a little bit of the history of the property. As you
can see from the survey here, the area in yellow is
currently where the City has ingress and egress and utility
rights. The pink one is where the City's water line is
currently located and the green line, sort of difficult to
see, but basically runs within the easement area here, where
there is a sewer force main.
Ross Robert: Which way is north on that map? I'm lost.
Mr. McNeil: I'm sorry, north is this way.
Mr. Robert: That way O.R.
Mr. McNeil: Would it be helpful if I turn it this way.
Mr. Robert: Yes, north at the top.
Mr. McNeil: Um, so anyway, as you can see, we've got a little bit
of a utility problem here, historically, with these um,
these lines that cross the property. When we came before
the City, um, with the proposal to develop the site, we
talked about this context of rerouting the utility lines
that could take care of this problem. And, what we are
proposing today is to construct new water and sewer lines
roughly along, along this wetland area down here, there's a,
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through a, dedicated easement, to be fair with the City, and
along Lake Mary Blvd. within the right -of -way. We think
that that will take care of the problem at that point that
the line would be constructed and the remaining lines are
abandoned. This issue should be taken care of. In
conjunction with that, um, we have submitted a plan that
dedicates to the City, as fee simple, these roadway areas
that are shown on the survey here, to allow for current
access to the site and future access once the remaining
tracts in the area are developed, or, should the City desire
to pave to put in the road themselves. The, um, project
itself has had a little bit of a bumpy history if you will.
We started out with site plan whereby we were going to have
units over here in this piece and our project would
basically be more condensed in this area. Uri'►, during the
process we have learned that the folks at Wal -Mart who are
leasing some space adjacent to here, had an interest in
expanding their current building. And to try to accommodate
the City and accommodate that project, and not also entangle
ourselves and that whole permitting problem, we spoke with
our seller of the property and tried to work out an
arrangement that would be mutual beneficial for the City,
for Wal -Mart and currently for ourselves. So we came up
with a plan whereby; we would release our contractual rights
to this piece right here, at the rear of the Wal -Mart, and
basically shift our development up, and that's what you see
here today. Some of you may or may not know that the folks
at Wal -Mart [plan] to expand their current site, um, they
will need to build within the current retention pond that
they've got at the rear of the building. And they basically
need this land to push their project back. So we've tried
to accommodate that, in that regard. The problem with that,
has been for us, is its just shifted our development plan
into a, into a little different area than what we had
originally designed and spoken with the staff about.
Overall, um, I think the project, if you look at the
density, is well within what is permitted there, currently.
We talked about this at the last meeting. I think from a
density standpoint um, we're in really good shape there,
we're certainly not over building this area by any stretch
of imagination. Um, the um, the recommendation that staff
has put together we generally agree with and we were working
with staff very hard, um, to get the project where it is
today and I think we've all been successful in that regard.
The only one or two points, that we would have an issue
with, in their report, is the request that the developer,
um, do some additional, um, stabilization of the proposed
Rolling Hills Blvd., which is up in this area up here. Our
site plan currently shows that we will build Rolling Hills
Blvd. up to the entrance of our development which is
approximately in this area and which will you know
adequately provide ingress and egress to our site. We've
got a traffic study that supports that and so forth. Um,
one of the requests, if you will, in the staff report,
addresses, um, some additional stabilization and mitigation
beyond our site. We just feel that that's an additional
expense, to a significant nature, that is not something
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that, legally or equitably, that we should be responsible
for and we would request that, that additional requirement
not be placed upon the burden on us. Um, the other issue
that we'd like to focus on relates to the, um, proposed rear
access to this site. The one on the rear of the site plan.
Um, staff has recommended or requested that an additional
rear gate be provided allowing vehicular ingress and egress
onto Americana Blvd., which is in this area right here. Um,
in a few minutes when um, Kristen Packard is up here telling
you a little bit about her company and her development
experiences and some of the projects they've done throughout
the State of Florida, I think you'll see that from a
property management standpoint and from a safety standpoint,
having one point of vehicular ingress and egress is um, what
we would desire. Its been Vestcor's experience having one
main point of entrance and exit from the site is better from
a public safety standpoint as well as from a property
management standpoint. It makes things much more conducive
in having a successful operation. Um, the project overall,
I believe, is consistent with the City's Land Development
Code and the Comprehensive Plan. We've certainly been
working real hard with the City Staff and with the City
Manager and frankly the project in its current shape, I
think we've got a pretty good plan here today. Um, we've
tried to (tape fuzzy) as we've got to work with here and um,
we've certainly done, taken care of all the mitigation that
will be impacted by our development of this site. Um, as
evidence adds, that's pretty much an overview of the project
as a whole. I would like to have Kristen talk a little bit
about the folks at Vestcor and their development
experiences; and projects they have constructed; and what
their intentions are for this project, ultimately, what this
development will look like once its brought to its
completion. After that, I will be happy to answer any
questions that you might have and like to discuss it
further. Thank you.
Kristen Packard: Again, my name is Kristen Packard, I'm with
Vestcor Development Corporation. I really appreciate the
opportunity to appear before you this evening. I'd like to
take just a few minutes to give you an overview of our
company. I think its important that you understand who we
are and what we are all about as we become citizens of the
City of Sanford. Um, Vestcor is a diverse real estate firm
that is involved in investments, development, construction
and property management. we are a visionary firm that
excels upon integrity, quality and attention to details. We
are leaders in the apartment industry in Florida with the
financial resources and the experience to see any
development through to fruition. The founder of our company
is John Rue, he founded Vestcor in Jacksonville in 1953. He
initially established our company as a brokerage firm for
multi family properties. He quickly saw a need to provide
quality property management services in addition to
innovative financial structuring. And from the inception of
our company to the present, Mr. Rue has led Vestcor to
become Northeast Florida's largest apartment manager with
275 employees and over 6,500 multi family units. The
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Vestcor family of companies include Vestcor Equities,
Vestcor Realty Management, and Vestcor Construction Services
and Vestcor Development Corporation. All of these companies
interact to provide us with a multi faceted and uniquely
dynamic constructive to the development business. A strong
and experienced management team and our very dedicated
responsive staff are the key to our success. We have all
been trained and encouraged to think critically and
empowered to make good decisions. Our employees developed
the corporate vision for us: "To pursue quality real estate
investments with the goals to maximize the return on
investments, to provide exceptional products and service to
our clients and customers, ... high ethical standards that
has given us the reputation for honesty, we exceed the
expectation of our investments, clients, customers and
employees, to provide our employees with a working
environment based upon the respect, success and career
growth and help others with charitable activities." The
particular company that I am associated with, our primary
goal is to seek opportunities in financing and development
of multi family properties with specific emphasis on
properties that are developed under the federal mortgage
revenue bond program and housing credit program. I am Vice
President of Housing Development Division. I am responsible
for the development, legal and operational activities for
Vestcor Development Corporation. My position includes
regional housing development. As I stated before the bond
and housing credit program. I've been involved in the
acquisition and development of over 3,000 units in under 5
years. The next few slides are showing units done in 1985
outside of Jacksonville, 304 units done in 1997 in
Jacksonville. Kendle Court apartments which we began
construction in June of 1998. Apartments done in November
of 1998 located in Palm Bay. The last one is Courtney Manor
Apartments, another 360 units, under construction currently
in Jacksonville. I'd like to share with you a little bit
about another very important part of our company, its
Vestcor ... and Management. Cynthia Lucas is responsible
for the property management division of our company. She is
continuously enhancing the policy and procedures in
performing analysis on our properties to maximize the return
on our investments. Under Cynthia's direction, our property
management company is going to be the 1998 Property
Management Company of the year by the Jacksonville Apartment
Association. Um, we are the largest manager of multi family
in Northeast Florida. As an owner and a third party
management, we manage a wide range of product type with the
same commitment to quality in asset management and excellent
customer service to our residents. I'd like to share with
you our Vestcor Pledge, our staff carries this pledge card
around in their uniforms to constantly remind them of our
commitment to our residents. It goes something like this:
Always greet our customers with a friendly smile, complete
all service requests promptly and anticipate those needs to
ensure a carefree life style. The owner of our company has
been known at every company function to offer a $20 bill to
an employee who can recite the pledge. Without a doubt we
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believe that the success of any multi family community is
tied to long term management and that is why we adhere to a
very strict rental criteria in our resident selection. Our
applicants must have a gross income of at least three times
the monthly rental rate, applicants must have a verifiable
residency for at least 24 months, they must have 6 months of
consecutive verifiable employment. We check the credit
report of each resident and all of our residents are subject
to a criminal background check. And any applicant whose
records reflect a misdemeanor or felony conviction within
the past 7 years for domestic violence, drug related
activities, sex offenses or crimes of that nature will be
rejected. Last but not least, I'd like to share with you
some information about Vestcor Construction Services. We
are a class -A licensed general contractor specializing in
design, construction and rehabilitation services. Vestcor
Construction Services primarily provides multi family
construction to Vestcor companies and we do ..... work as
well. The company was formed in 1994 and we have built over
3,000 multi family units since that time. We are a design
build type construction company. This insures that our
developments are built on time and on budget. We have
developed many efficient operation systems to operating to
insure safety quality assurance. The next slide is a
picture of the president of our construction company. Under
Mr. ... direction, Vestcor Construction services annual
volume work exceeded 75 million in 1999. An example to our
commitment to superior quality is evidence by the fact that
Vestcor Construction Services was recognized by Brevard
County earlier this year for the cleanest construction site
during the year 1998. The contest was sponsored by Brevard
County and we were actually nominated by the City of Palm
Bay. Vestcor utilizes a state of the art construction
technology known as concrete ... in lieu of wood framing.
This method of construction utilizes cast in place
concrete ................. January of this year is when we
very first showed up on Russ' doorstep. Our original plan
as Jim said was to have buildings come along up in here and
encompass the lower section of this site. We were presented
with the opportunity to work with the City and work with
Wal -Mart to accommodate their expansion on the site which we
know the City wanted and we certainly want them to have that
as well. We're here obviously tonight asking for the
approval of the site plan. As Jim stated, there are a couple
of things that we object to and you've already approved our
request for rezoning. Let me tell you a little bit about
the financial structure. Logan Heights will be financed
under the federal mortgage revenue bond program which is a
federal tax incentive that uses both taxable and tax exempt
bonds to make below market rates, interest rates to
developers who commit to set aside a portion of the units to
families or individuals that earn less than 60% of area
medium income. Seminole County or Sanford's medium income
is about $48,100. For a family of four this means that they
cannot make over $25,000. Moving on ....... Vestcor is a
quality minded company.
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Mr. Hattaway: something we wanted to say at the end here is we
have got some disagreements we have with the staff's
recommendations in their addendum. What I'd like to do is
just point those out to you. Taking a look at page one of
the memorandum, Points One and Two, we have no comments on
them. Point Three, we respectfully take strong issue with
and we would request that Point Three be completely
strickened. As of Point Four, we have no strong objections
with the first sentence of Point Four, but the remainder we
request be strickened. Apart from that we have no other
serious objections.
Mr. Valerino: On Point Four you are recommending that the
stabilized base
Mr. Hattaway: Mr. Chairman, on Point Four is to realign Americana
Blvd. there to the end of the second line, we object to
beyond that where it starts at it also appears to the end we
would like to see strickened along with all of paragraph
three. Apart from that we have no other serious objections.
Thank you and we do await your questions.
Mr. Hipes: Jim, I just wanted to state that our company owns the
Wal -Mart shopping Center and Wal -Mart is my tenant so I feel
I should abstain.
Mr. Garrett: I do have a concern, I would like to see a second
entrance on Americana Blvd., I think we'll need it for the
residents going in and out because people are gonna be going
in both directions to work. I think we're gonna need it for
fire and police to respond to different calls.
Ms. Packard: ....in emergencies for Fire and Police, there will
be access provided but only on emergency basis. What we
object to is the opening of .... ingress /egress in that
area. As I shared this with the City in our development
review committee meetings, with the extensive experience
that we have in property management, we have found that
having one point of entrance and exits into the community is
in the best interest of the community....
Mr. Hudson: Staff recommended that you pave the road an
additional 350 beyond your property. I think that is a
little extensive. However, I think you should pave at least
150' beyond the entrance road.
Ms. Packard: This is really a product of the ongoing discussions
that we have had with the Vial -Dart Center ... in proceeding
how to accommodate and create a win -win situation and allow
our development to proceed on ... allow the Wal -Mart the
space that they needed. With our original site plan the
road was not in those areas. What you see is a product of...
Mr. Walter:
350 is just north of where they propose to end the pavement
at their basically their driveway into their facility. It
goes through a wetland area which Tay stated there is muck.
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Mr. Hudson:
So you all need a total of 350 in order to realign the
utilities.
Mr. Walter:
Is just through a wetland area that's gonna cost the City a
lot of money to mitigate, to fill and to prepare for a road
base that when we exchange these easements for the road
right -of -ways, uh, my opinion is that this is, at least,
that they're contributing, uh, for the road improvements.
Mr. Hattaway: We do have our engineer present who can talk about
environmental conditions and specifically answer, because I
think when there's talk of muck, that doesn't perhaps
accurately describe what's going on out there and our
engineer can really give you a more coherent picture of
really what's going on out there. If that a ... a ... a....
Jim McNeil: Generally, I can totally appreciate staff's position
on this thing. I've appeared before others and I can see
other staffs make similar recommendations out of the city's
best interest basically, and we get this developer that
kicks something in above and beyond what their legal
applicable requirements are. That's really the question
here today. We've got, we're building our entrance road up
to our development. The additional cost is significant, its
about $60,000 to stabilize that area and to do some
mitigation, just basing it on preliminary estimates. And,
if it was a much small number we would certainly step up to
the plate and just take that. But because it is a
significant number, and we feel like it's something in all
fairness, you know, it's really for the next guy so to speak
that comes in here and develops. Um, we'd like to defer
that to the next developer, frankly, and work with the city
if they decide to go through and develop any of those roads.
I'd like to just have Patrick, for a brief minute, talk to
you about the quality of the wetlands and so forth ... The
other item that I neglected to mention earlier was with
these roads we've also incurred considerable expense in
doing all the engineering for the new roadways. We
volunteered that to the City and they accepted our offer.
We have been moving forward, we made significant progress
with the engineering plans and there, that's... I mean,
we're full steam ahead on that already for the City so that
the next developer that comes in decides to build in the
future there, will have approved engineering plans that are
ready to go. That's all we've got.
Ms. Packard: We would like deleted, Paragraph Three, in its
entirety, which deals specifically with the second entrance
and exit to the property. And on number four we'd like to
have the first sentence remain, and start from it also
appears.
Mr. Walter: May I explain to you my comments and concerns.
Americana Blvd. right now has easements that come through
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this area. Whether they are legal or not is some question,
some question whether they have been vacated or whatever...
we believe they are still in tact and we are going through
the process of vacating them right now. We do believe that
this area here is still in tact. So and basically, we can
go in there and put a road in there today. This part of
Americana Blvd. is being shifted up to the dark line. From
here to here is a wetland area. This project needs the good
land, so it's shifting the ... because of this project. This
project needs good land for shifting the road right -of -way
up into the wetland area. That wetland area is also in a
100 year flood plan. In order for the City to go and
develop this road, we have to mitigate for the wetlands, we
have to do 100 year.. storage. This area up in here where
this road is proposed is anywhere from 3 to 7 deeper than
the adjacent property. It appears that this is a floodway
for the wetlands and the wetlands drains through this
floodway over here to Six Mile Creek. our code does not
allow us to build in a floodway. ...If we can get around
there, it will cost us additional monies in drainage,
piping, to do something to get this wetland even closer
there, we will be filling this ditch to the river. Ah,
those pipes would be 3 to 7 in diameter to compensate for
that ditch. That will be an excessive cost to the City to
build this road. This portion here, Rolling Hills, is not
in wetlands and the City could build today. The proposal
here tips it over and it clips about 350 of the wetland
that requires us to fill, mitigate, and to get St. Johns
permits to fill in the wetlands. Mitigation is probably the
big cost here. I didn't see any muck in the soil borings
either. It is the mitigation, taking wetland where there is
habitat, the birds and wetland features, and filling it in
is an impact to society and St. Johns requires us to
mitigate for doing that sort of thing. So in return for
mooring Americana up into this large portion of the wetlands
and moving Rolling Hills over into 350 of wetlands, I'm
requesting that the developer at least mitigate and fill
that portion of the wetlands so the City can come and
basically have a road that basically is in about the same
condition that we have...
Mr. Walter stated that this complex will have 360 units, there
will be shopping and workers at Wal -Mart and Eckerds. There
won't be too many people shopping and carrying their packages a
quarter to a half a mile through the complex. There should be at
least an access for the residents. If there is not another
access, landscaping will be trampled and residents doing whatever
they can to get through.
Mr. Robert: I'm in favor of keeping six of those seven and
giving up on the Number 3, that is, being willing to strike
paragraph 3 that asks for the back gate that gives you
options in there. But I'm not in favor of giving up on in
effect that a $60,000, you might call it a windfall, just
because the city got you in a wringer. That's where I stand
on it. The City Commission of course can change the whole
thing around. We will send this with a recommendation.
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Don't know how its gonna come out but ...... That is in effect
the motion that we approve the site plan per staff's
comments with the exception of Paragraph 3 of Robert J.
Walter's, P.E., memo dated July 14, 1999. Ms. Dennison
seconded. All in favor. Motion carried.
On the Addendum was the consideration of the site plan for a
proposed Race Trac, a gasoline service station to be located at
3760 Orlando Drive (a portion of the former Movieland Drive -In
site). Owner: Petrocon, Inc.; representative: Todd Duplantis.
Todd Duplantis, 300 Technology Court, Atlanta, Ga., was present.
He stated that since he is the first to develop in the area, DOT
will not issue a permit to install sidewalks within their right -
of -way. The sign will be a monument sign, 50 square feet, 25'
high. He has no problem with installing the sidewalks at a later
date.
Mr. Robert moved on approval per staff's recommendations. Mr.
Hipes seconded. All in favor, motion carried.
Mr. Robert moved on approval of the Minutes. Seconded by Mr.
Garrett. All in favor, motion carried.
Mr. Marder briefly reviewed some of the future transportation
improvements. He noted improvements to Bevier Road, the
expressway from 17 -92 to I -4, St. Johns Parkway, etc.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 9:30
P.M. n ., -
J es Valerino, Chairman