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09.19.91MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 19, 1991 CITY COMMISSION CHAFERS 7:00 P.M. MEMBERS PRESENT: John LeRoy Tom Speer Eddie Keith Joe Dennison Leon Brooks MEMBERS ABSENT: Helen Stairs Cathryn Welch Ben Dyal Jerry Johnson OTHERS PRESENT: Jay Marder, City Planner Bettie Sonnenberg, Land Development Regulation Marion Anderson, Recording Secretary The first item on the Agenda was the consideration of the site plan for an expansion to the automotive office use for the Persimmon Avenue site for Butch and Carol Coombs, located at 200 Persimmon Avenue in a GC -2, General Commercial District. Owners: Lewis A. and Carol Coombs; representative: Joe Tumminello. Butch Coombs, 321 Kimberly Ct., Sanford, and Joe Tumminello, 2508 Valley View Ct., Deland, were present for representation. Mr. Coombs stated that back of the building at 200 Persimmon Ave., he would like to install a driveway out of shell rock through the property for Mr. Tumminello's auto action. Mr. Tumminello stated that the driveway would be used on Thursday nights for 4 to 6 hours. There will be very little traffic the rest of the week. They would like to bring the traffic through Persimmon which would relieve most of the traffic on S.R. 46. Auto dealers will park at the westside of the auto auction. Persimmon Avenue would be used by dealers bringing cars to the auction for sale. No cars will be taken off S.R. 46 on Thursday nights, only Persimmon Ave. Mr. Dave Farr, Chamber of Commerce, was in attendance in support of Mr. Tumminello and Mr. Coombs. Mr. LeRoy asked if staff's recommendations included the waiver of paving the parking spaces. Ms. Sonnenberg stated that they are MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 19,1991 PAGE 2 requesting to waive paving and that the Fire Department has requested that there be some type of stabilized drive going to the back lot. Mr. Coombs stated that there are two accesses for fire and emergency equipment, there are gates on the south side and north side of the property. Mr. LeRoy made a motion to recommend approval subject to a paved drive lane as requested by Rick Holloway of staff and to recommend to City Manager that grass parking will be acceptable but noting that the driveway should be paved. Mr. LeRoy asked why it would be necessary to have paving for a once a week use. Ms. Sonnenberg stated that it would be used for the parking as well as an entranceway and from a maintenance type of situation, Engineering recommends to have it paved. Mr. Speer made a motion to approve the site plan. Seconded by Mr. Keith. Mr. LeRoy made a motion to amend Mr. Speer's motion to allow the applicant, for a period of 6 months, to use shell for the 24' driveway. Mr. Speer seconded the amendment. Mr. LeRoy also asked if the access on 46 in front of old auto auction could be limited by no parking signs or something. Mr. Dennison stated that this is a State road and that it does not fall under the City's jurisdiction. Mrs. Sonnenberg is to check as to whether the City has any jurisdiction for S.R. 46 . She stated that there are No Parking signs on 46 now. Everyone in favor of the amendment except Mr. Brooks. Amendment carried. All in favor of the amended motion. Motion carried. The next item on the agenda was the consideration of the site plan for a detached sign for Heilig Meyers, a furniture store, located at 1100 French Avenue in a GC -2 zone. Owner: H. H. & Ora Mae Grier; representative: John Williams. Ms. Sonnenberg informed the Commission that the applicant had requested to be withdrawn. Mr. Marder stated that changes to the Comp Plan as prepared by Solin Associates include capital improvement funding found in Fiscal Resource Management Objective for debt service. The State didn't care for the manner in which we proposed to regulate conservation protection areas. Mr. Marder stated that the State is having a fierce debate within their ranks as to the difference between a plan and a regulation. It is becoming clear that the regulators are winning out because the folks who are running the show are basically lawyers. They would tend to want to go toward the more definitive approach. Mr. Marder stated that there has not been a recent housing study done in terms of housing conditions in MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 19, 1991 PAGE 3 the City. We have gone back and looked at the 70's data and the CDBG data and basically subtracted housing that have been rehabilitated from the substandard housing. Mr. Marder stated that we are in the process of responding to the State's comments on the ORC report. The plan is the one that the City adopted in April of 1991. After 90 days we received the ORC report. We then we proceeded to implement contracts with consultants to respond to these comments and to work with the City to coordinate the inhouse responses. The shaded areas are being incorporated into the plan. On October 14 the City Commission is to hold their second public hearing to adopt the Comp Plan and to transmit all comments and all additions to DCA. DCA has 60 days to review and state if the plan is in compliance. Mrs. Sonnenberg stated that the City Commission approved the appeal on the denial at 1301 Park Ave. They have approved the change of use of a nonconforming structure. There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 7:45 p.m. Joe nnison, Chairman