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04.06.89AMENDED MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION Meeting of April 6, 1989 City Commission Chambers 7:00 P.M. MEMBERS PRESENT Brent Carli Jay Malone Joe Dennison John Morris Eddie Keith Tom Speer Leon Brooks Gary Davidson MEMBERS ABSENT John LeRoy Jay Marder, City Planner Bettie Sonnenberg, Principal Deputy Administrative Official Bill Simmons, Director of Engineering and Planning The meeting was called to order at 7:00 P.M. by Chairman Carli. The first item on the agenda was a Public Hearing to consider a request for a Conditional Use in a GC -2 zone for the purpose of an auto dealer for that property located at 2601 Sanford Avenue. Owners /representatives: Charles Butler & David Armondi. Mr. Charles Butler stated that they intend to change the property into an auto dealership with no more than 8 to 10 cars. There will be no detailing and no repair work, with possible washing on the east side behind the building. Mr. Butler stated that he is familiar with the set -back requirements and that he has no problem with the landscape requirements. Mr. A.M. Campbell, owner of 2603 and 2605 Sanford Avenue, stated that this is a very small lot and would not be suitable for a car lot. There are four car lots in this two block area with the closing of the one directly across the street. Mr. Campbell stated that he would hate to see the neighborhood go down anymore. Mr. Butler stated that his hours of operation will be from 10:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. and will be closed on Sundays. Dwayne McGuire, Maitland, stated the he will be renting the property for a used car lot. He will close at 4:00 p.m. on Saturdays and will be closed on Sundays. He has an outside person to do mechanics and also an outside person to do detailing. Mr. McGuire stated that he has 7 years experience in Casselberry and averaged about 5 to 6 custo- mers per day. He will be the sole operator/ proprietor. AMENDED MINUTES Planning and zoning Commission Meeting of April 6, 1989 Page 2 Mr. Speer made motion to approve the request for a conditional use. Mr. Dennison seconded. Mr. Morris moved to amend the motion to limit the vehicles to no more than 10 at any one time and to restrict the operational hours from 9:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m., Monday thru Saturday. Amended motion seconded by Mr. Davidson. Mr. Speer and Mr. Malone opposed to the amended motion. Motion carried. Mr. Malone and Mr. Speer in oppositon to the motion as amended. Motion carried. The next item on the agenda was the consideration of a request for a Conditional Use in a GC -2 zone for the purpose of a non - conforming lot and structure, that property located at 1610 West 13th Street. Owners /representatives: Jerry & Jeanne Atkinson. Mr. Gary Atkinson, 7037 Cardinalwood Court, Orlando, stated that they would like to remodel the existing building. The expansion is the width of a concrete block, will be under the same eave. Chairman Carli requested that Mr. Atkinson provide for a concrete structure on the western side of the building for a trash recepticle. Mr. Atkinson stated that he has 3 - 50 gallon drums that are on the alley side. Also he has a man who picks up around the building. Mr. Morris moved on approval of the request for a conditional use. Mr. Speer seconded. All in favor. Motion carried. The next item on the agenda was the consideration of the Final Plat for North Star Business Park Phase I located south of SR 46, east of Upsala Road and west of Old Monroe Road in an AG and GC -2 zone. Owner: T.L. Oyler & K. Oyler; representative: William Stoller. Mr. Bill Stoller stated that this will be the first phase of North Star Business Park. Mr. Stoller stated that the City Commission approved the landscaping and a sign to be put in the road right -of -way that is being dedicated. The sign will be flourescent at the bottom with a flood effect. The light will not be visible from the east bound lane; the landscaping shields the light from the street. Mr. Simmons stated that a note in the General Notes Section relative to Tract A, "Tract A shall be a walled landscaped utility and drainage easement," has survived the deci- sion to transfer to the City. This note should be deleted. Mr. Stoller stated that he has no problem with this and it was their intention when they dedicated this tract to the City. Mr. Morris moved to approve subject to the general note relative to Tract A being deleted. Seconded by Mr. Keith. All in favor. Motion carried. The next item on the agenda was the consideration of the Site Plan for an addition to Mobilite, a manufacturing use located at 1301 Silver Lake Drive in a MI -2 zone. Owner: Mobilite, Inc.; representative: Monte Plank. AMENDED MINUTES Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting of April 6, 1989 Page _3 Due to lack of representation, Mr. Morris moved to table this item until the end of the meeting. Seconded by Mr. Davidson. All in favor. Motion carried. The next item on the agenda was the consideration of the Site Plan for a detached sign for Fina Oil located at 2501 Sanford Avenue in a GC -2 zone. Owner: Andelo Vincent; representative: Michael Chawk. Mr. Chawk stated that they would like to remove the existing sign and replace it in an area that is 5x10 sign at the same location. Will be changing Armco to Fina. It will be a 20 -foot sign, non - rotating and it is flourescent. Mrs. Sonnenberg stated that they have agreed to meet the City standards. Mr. Dennison moved on approval of the site plan. Seconded by Mr. Keith. Mr. Chawk requested that they be allowed to angle the sign 30 so that it may be read in both directions. Mr. Dennison included this request in his motion. All in favor. Motion carried. The next item on the agenda was the consideration of the Site plan for a detached sign for Mobil Oil located at 2518 French Avenue in a GC -2 zone. Owner: Mobil Oil Company; representative: William Kerley. Mr. Kerley stated that they are requesting to remove the existing Gulf sign and base and replace it with a 25 -foot high 8 -foot Mobil sign which will have 45.2 square feet. Mr. Sonnenberg stated that he has received a variance of 10 -feet for the sideyard set- back. Mr. Malone moved on approval of the site plan. Seconded by Mr. Morris. All in favor. Motion carried. The next item on the agenda was the consideration of an extension of the approval of the site plan for a 4 duplex development located at the corner of Bell Avenue and W. 16th Street in a MR -2 zone. Owner /representative: Chucky E. Guess. Mr. Guess, 1195 W. 16th Street, stated that he is building as owner /occupier. He has spent a year and a half in one building and would like to have an extension for the other building. Mr. Dennison moved on approval. Mr. Keith seconded. All in favor. Motion carried. The next item on the agenda was consideration of the Site Plan for an office addition to the model center (approved 3/16/89) for Cardinal Homes located at 3701 Sanford Avenue in a MI -2 zone. Owner: Cardinal Industries; representative: Mike Burkett. Mr. Burkett stated that they are moving their single family business from Casselberry to Sanford. They will use the existing parking lot and will restripe and landscape. A�]T gD Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting of April 6, 1989 Page 4 Mr. Simmons stated that based on the level of employement at the Cardinal area, they have ample parking spaces everywhere for this particular requirement. Mr. Morris moved on approval. Seconded by Mr. Davidson. All in favor. Motion carried. Mr. Malone made motion to remove Item #4 from the table. Mr. Morris seconded. All in favor. Motion carried. Mr. Montje Plank stated that relative to the Fire Department connection, it will be relocated to the north of the structure, and that they presently have ample parking for the addition to this structure. Michael Gavin, 2150 Illuminated Building, Cleveland, Ohio, Attorney for Mobilite, stated that he had talked with the City Attorney relative to donating additional right - of -way. One way to do it is by deed fee simple, and another way is by an easement for highway purposes. Mr. Gavin said that it did not matter with Mr. Colbert which way this was done and that he and Mr. Colbert will work this out. Mr. Gavin stated that the City will have one or the other. Mr. Gavin also stated that the orignal plans indicated a second drainage ditch but they plan on using the existing drainage ditch. Mr. Simmons stated that there appears to be a question in Mr. McDonald's mind, the adjacent property owner, relative to the drainage and the right for any additional drainage either quantity or rate. This is a matter for Mr. McDonald and Mobilite for ultimate resolution. Relative to the parking, Chris Allard of Longwood, stated that there are 148 permanent spaces and between 10 and 20 temporary parking spaces. All deliveries and pick -ups are by tractor trailers basically. Mr. Allard stated that there is always 10 to 25 parking spaces open each day. Mrs. Sonnenberg stated that according to the new Code, Mobilite would have to add 84 parking spaces. Based on employees, there would have to be one parking space for each employee. Mr. Morris moved on approval subject to revisiting parking spaces in 6 months. Seconded by Mr. Dennison. All in favor. Motion carried. Mr. Simmons reported on the low water pressure in Idyllwilde, stating that the Utility Department checked this out and they reported readings of 62 psi at 300 Larkwood, 128 Aldean, and 301 Dogwood, well within operating ranges. The pressure was tested at the meter. Mr. Simmons is to check to see if readings can be taken in the early morning, 6:30/7 :00 a.m. or if there is anything unusual at the Water Plant at this time. AMENDED MINUTES Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting of April 6, 1989 Page 5 Mr. Morris moved to approve the minutes as circulated. Mr. Malone seconded. All in favor. Motion carried. Chairman Carli asked if the City Commission was working on 700 square feet per minimum living requirements in SR -1 and multi family. Mr. Simmons stated that this item would be on the agenda for second reading and adoption at the caning Monday night meeting. Mr. Carli asked if Mr. Simmons had talked with the City Commission in workshops about the requirements for the request for Planning and Zoning. Mr. Simmons said that they have heard the request fran Planning and Zoning and have heard from interested builders. Chairman Carli asked if it was on the agenda at the workshop. Mr. Simmons said "yes, it was on the agenda of the workshop last week. Chairman Carli said that he certainly did not understand why the Chairman and vice Chairman of Planning and Zoning were not there to represent the people's side. With the builder's side and the City's side, why didn't we have the people's side there. Chairman Carli stated that he questions this. Mr. Simmons said that he can't answer this directly. Mr. Malone said that "we weren't invited." Chairman Carli asked if there had been a workshop on the Marina as far as the parking. Mr. Simmons said "yes ". Chariman Carli said that once again there was input from Staff and input from other outside people. He asked why didn't the City Commission ask for Planning and Zoning input. Mr. Simmons stated that it was not his meeting. Chairman Carli asked Mr. Simmons if he was City staff and if Mr. Simmons was supposed to gather information for the City Commission to help them make their decision and if this was what staff's function is. Mr. Simmons stated that he gathers the information which the City Commission has asked him to gather. Chairman Carli stated that the only assump- tion he could make was that Staff made the decision not to invite Planning and Zoning because if the City Coomission ask Staff to go out and gather information, you do not look in the encyclopedia but you will go to a construction person. Mr. Simmons asked Mr. Carli to hear him out and stated that when he is specifically directed to contact a listed number of people and obtain their opinion and Planning and Zoning represen- tatives are not included on that list, they are not contacted. Mr. Carli said that he did not say anything about a specific person or organization. Mr. Simmons stated that was how he was directed. Mr. Carli asked Mr. Simmons if they directed him not to include Planning and Zoning. Mr. Sims said "no ", they directed him specifically who to contact and to report back. Mr. Carli said that if they told him who to contact, and Planning and Zoning was the one they did not want contacted. Mr. Simmons stated that they did not mention Planning and Zoning one way or the other. Mr. Malone stated that they did not have a desire to hear from Planning and Zoning whatsoever. Mr. Carli said that that was all he wanted to hear. Mr. Simmons said that he did not say this, that was their words. Mr. Morris stated, "you are conspicuous by your absence. Chairman Carli said that he did not understand the decisions that were made letting the Rivership Romance keep all their parking spaces when they could very easily utilize the parking across the street on the weekends instead of making trailers park 80, 90 or 100 yards away from where their $25,000 investment is. He does not find the logic. Emotionally he was upset with the decision that the City Commission made with this and with Staff's recommendation. Chairman Carli said that he does not agree with this and from a planning aspect and from an emotional aspect as a City of Sanford citizen. Meeting adjourned at 8:30 P.M. ��� ztpo rent Carlf; Chairman f VA. FROM THE CITY PLANNER TO: City of Sanford Planning and Zoning Commission DATE: March 31, 1989 SUBJECT: Planning Recommendations for April 6, 1969 BUTLER /ARMOND - Request conditional use approval to permit automobile sales in a GC -2, General Commercial Zoning District located at the southeast corner of Sanford Avenue and East 26th Street. 1. Site is located at the southeast corner of Sanford avenue and East 26th Street. Site appears to contain an existing building and a single family residence. 2. Site is approximately 16,161 square feet or .37 acre. Existing single family residence on east side of property constitutes approximately 1/3 to 1/2 of site area. Site dimensions are approximately 116.6' (frontage on Sanford Avenue) by 138.6' (depth on East 26th Street). 3. Site is adjacent to existing GC -2, RC -1 and MR -2 Zoning Districts in the City which contain a small shopping center with indoor retail sales and services, a convenience store and various single family residences. 4. Site is adjacent to C -2 Zoning in unincorporated area which contains various residences. Auto sales are permitted uses in the C -2 Zoning District. An existing automobile sales establishment is located one block south of site at corner of Sanford Avenue and Lemon Street. 5. Recommend denial of the conditional use for automobile sales based on insufficient size of portion of site fronting Sanford Avenue to support the intended use and proper vehicular ingress /egress to such use. NOTE: The above recommendation is essentially the same as a similar recommendation considered by the Planning and Zoning Commission on June 5, 1986. 1 Planning Recommendations for April 6, 1989 Page 2 ATKINSON - Request for conditional use approval to permit expansion/alteration a on /alteration of a nonconforming structure on a nonconforming lot for property Zoned GC -2, General Commercial located on the north side of West 13th Street, east of Mulberry Avenue. 1. Site includes a small existing structure that appears to be utilized for general sales and alcoholic beverage sales. Site appears to provide for approximately 5 -6 parking spaces. 2. Surrounding area includes various small businesses, churches and the Rescue Outreach Mission for homeless persons. 3. Based on the limited size of the site, recommend approval of the conditional use request to expand /alter the structure provided that floor area shall increase more than 100 of existing floor area and that the present number of on -site parking spaces be maintained. 6