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03.19.87MINUTES PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION March 19, 1987 7:00 P.M. Members Present: John Morris, Chairman Brent Carli Sheila Roberts Gary L. Davidson Eddie Keith Members Absent: Others Present: John LeRoy Dr. Hortense Evans Lon Howell Jay Malone Bettie B. Sonnenberg, Zoning Inspector Jay Marder, City Planner The meeting was called to order at 7:00 P.M. by the Chairman, John Morris. The first item on the agenda was a public hearing for a conditional use in a GC -2 zone, property located at 3631 Orlando Drive for the purpose of sale of alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, represented by David Reisig, owner of Dave's Sub Shop. Mr. Reisig would like to There will be no liquor. 11:00 A.M. to 10:00 P.M. seats 52 people. There on Sundays. There was no one present conditional use with the have beer and wine on premises to serve with the food. The hours of operation are Monday through Saturday, and on Sunday, 11:00 A.M. to 7:00 P.M. The restaurant #ill be no sale of alcoholic beverages before 1:00 P.M. to speak in opposition. Mr. Carli moved to approve the following conditions: 1. no take out of alcoholic beverages 2. served with meals only 3. there will be no sale of beer and wine the first two hours of operation on Sundays Mrs. Roberts seconded. Motion carried unanimously. The next item on the agenda was a public hearing for a conditional use in a SR -lA zone, that property located at 2207 Coronado Concourse for the purpose of a single family residence with a 1,100 sq. ft. living area, represented by David Stump. Mr. Stump presented the board with a tax roll break out of adjacent properties on Coronado Concourse. It listed the address, the owner, the sq. footage of the house, and the valuation of each lot. There was also a copy of a plat map of the surrounding lots. There is only one house that abutts the property that is over 1,300 sq. ft. Most of the existing houses were built in the 1950's. Mr. Stump said the problem they are faced with is the utilization of existing parcels within the City of Sanford that are grandfathered in and are buildable. He submitted pictures of the surrounding houses and the one located at 2209 Coronado Concourse that is presently being built. There have been various petitions against the property. Stenstrom -Stump Development has no intentions of ruining the valuation of the surrounding houses. Mr. Stump read an insert from two different letters from Mr. Taylor saying the houses will probably look better than the surrounding homes and he is not in objection t the houses being built, but in objection to the small lots they are being built on. The cost of the MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION - March 19, 1987 - 7:00 P.M. Page 2 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- home at 2207 Coronado Concourse will be around $58,000, with a fireplace and a jacuzzi. Mrs. Roberts asked if Mr. Stump would consider a garage instead a carport. He said due to the cost it would not be advisable. Also, since there are no garages in the area, it may make the house stand out more. Mr. Carli asked where the 200 sq. ft. would be lost. Mr. Stump said they would just rearrange the inside dimensions. There is a contract on the existing house and the proposed house. Also present to speak on behalf was Herb Stenstrom. He stated that he did not feel someone could tell if a house is 200 sq. ft. less by looking on the outside. The house will upgrade the neighborhood. He stated that, according to several people, they were given the wrong information when they were asked to sign one of the petitions. Those present to speak in opposition were Gary Taylor, Phil Catone, Earnest Riddle, and Shirley Merida. Mr. Taylor presented a petition. He stated the request should not be reheard because it has been turned down previously. The petition was kept to the surrounding area. There are small houses but not sitting on 50 ft. lots. Stenstrom -Stump Development was aware of the zoning ordinances when they bought the property. They knew they could not build on them. Mr. Riddle said he would have no objection if the house is built as required. Mr. Carli asked Mr. Riddle if he though, according to what is being built, would be aesthically more appealing than what is existing across the street from him. Mr. Riddle said yes. Mr. Carli moved to approve the conditional use. Motion died due to a lack of a second. Mrs. Roberts moved to deny the request because of the following reasons: 1. a 1,100 sq ft. house is not big enough 2. asked to put a garage, but they did not want to Mr. Davidson seconded. Motion carried over the dissenting votes of Mr. Carli and Mr. Morris. The next item was to consider a site plan for 4 single family homes in a SR -1 zone, property located at 2408, 2410, 2412, and 2414 Lake Avenue, represented by Roger Davis. Mr. Davis stated he received a call from a neighbor asking what was planned for the property since there was a sign on the property from the construction company. The neighbor was concerned there would be duplexes built since there were some next to his property at the present. When told it would be 4 single family residences, he was very favorable to that. Staff recommended approval. The only trees that would be removed are in the building area. Mr. Carli moved to approve the site plan. Mrs. Roberts seconded. Motion carried unanimously. The next item was to consider a site plan for Sanford Medical Plaza, a 7 unit medical/ office building located at 305 N. Mangoustine Avenue in a RMOI zone, represented by Dale Parsons. Mr. Parsons stated there is a duplex on the south property, 2 single family homes on the other 2 parcels. There are people living in the 2 homes. They plan to start as soon as they get the building permit in about 6 weeks to 2 months. This is the 4th project they have done like this. It will be for office and medical use only. Staff recommended approval with the exception of the Utility Director wanting a 3 inch water line. Mrs. Roberts moved to approve the site plan subject to the resolution of the water lines by the Utility Director. Mr. Keith seconded. Motion carried unanimously. MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSIONI- March 19, 1987 - 7:00 P.M. Page 3 ----------------------------------------+------------------------------------------------- The next item was to consider a site plan for Electronic Fastners, Inc., an office/ warehouse facility located at 220 Coastline Road in a RI -1 zone, represented by Jay Adkinson. Mr. Atkinson stated there would be approximately 20 employees working one shift. Mr. Carli questioned when Coastline Road would connect with Upsala Road. The City Planner said the city was not sure at this time.IMr. Carli felt that the board could limit the site plan to condition that a certificate of occupancy not be issued until the road is connected. He felt maybe that would get the county commission to get it approved so there would be a safe entrance into the Sanford's Industrial Park. Mr. Adkinson said there would be an automatic fire sprinkler system. The business is distribution and sales of screws and metal pieces to make metal mechanical components. There will also be an office complex in the building. The parts are for retail. There will be a showroom with some clients coming in, but mostly there will be an outside ales force. Mr. Carli moved to approve the site plan4 Mr. Davidson seconded. Mr. Carli asked the board how they felt about putting a condition on the site plan, to let them build it, but the road has to be connected before �he certificate of occupancy is issued. if later it becomes a hardship, it can come back to the board and it can be rescinded. The Chairman said he understood Mr. Carli's concerns, but does not feel it would be fair of the board to impose a condition on the applicant that he cannot control. That control rests with the county commission. The Chairman suggested that it might better service the board to ask the City Engineer to forward a personal letter to the county engineer concerning the city's predictament and to ask for assistance in resolving the problem. Motion to approve carried over the dissenting vote of Mr. Carli. The next item was to consider a site plan for Winn Dixie Expansion, located at 3818 Orlando Drive in a GC -2 zone, represented by Darryl Hall. Mr. Hall stated that the original site plan was approved with the proposed expansion. The existing landscaped areas will not be taken and will not affect any of the existing driveways. They have omitted 8 parking spaces which is the major critical thing on the site plan. They feel there is adequate parking for the center. The landscaping will possibly be upgraded, with the parking lot being resurfaced and restripped. The exterior of the building will basically stay the same. Mr. Carli asked if there is enough setback for the expansion of Lake Mary Blvd. Mr. Marder said yes there is enough room for more lanes. The board was concerned about the traffic flow. They would like to see some excel and decel lanes on Lake Mary Blvd. Mr. Davidson moved to table the site plan till the next meeting to allow engineering staff to communicate with county in order to come up with a working relationship to upgrade on remodeling. Mr. Carli seconded. Motion carried unanimously. Mr. Jed Downs was also present to represent the Winn Dixie Expansion. He stated the site plan is a completion of a project that has already been approved. In reference to the traffic, the center has been there for 5 years and the additional sq. footage adding is only 4,200, there will be no increase in traffic because it will be the same people shopping there. The Chairman said the board is using this opportunity to create a relationship with the county to help solve some of the problems that have been created over the years. Mr. Downs said time is not on their side. With the new Albertson's and Publix being built on the other side of Lake Mary Blvd., Winn Dixie is a competitor and needs to upgrade the store as soon as possible. The next item was to consider a site plan for All Saints Deliverence Church, property located at 704 W. 9th Street in a GC -2 zone, represented by Mack Lazenby. MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION - March 19, 1987 - 7:00 P.M. Page 4 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - - - - -- Mr. Lazenby stated his client, Bishop Elba Reaves, wants to build a church in an area so people can worship. The conditional use was approved with the conditions that there be no additions to the building and it be limited to 25 seats. The building is existing which was built in 1927. It will be expensive to develop the site plan because of the of the parking lot configuration based on the site and the existing building. The landscaping will be replenished and upgraded. The dead trees will be removed and some existing trees will be relocated with 7 additional trees added. There are six parking spaces and one handicap with two additional spaces in the rear of the building to accomodate the residence. The City is wanting a fire hydrant placed in front of the property. There is an existing 4 inch water line, but to operate the fire hydrant flow, a 6 inch water line would be required. There is an existing fire hydrant that is 212 ft. from the property line. Mr. Lazenby felt the one that is 212 ft. away would be adequate if the building was on fire. The other question was the design of the retention pond. They wanted to correct some deficiencies on the city right -of -way and sidewalk with the design. The city's suggestion does not meet the code. The city is proposing a 4 inch outfall. The minimum drainage pipe in the city is a 12 inch pipe. The 4 inch line is too easily clogged. Mr. Lazenby is proposing a free flowing overflow with an improvement to the sidewalk. The board agreed with the swale and the repair of the entrance ramp to the alley, which was against staff's recommendations. Mr. Carli moved to approve the site plan with the swale and the fire hydrant situation as it exists today. Mr. Davidson seconded. Motion carried. The next item was to consider the site plan for Labor Force, Inc., a temporary work force service office located at 212 W. 1st Street in a SC -3 zone, represented by Walter Jensen from Carriage Realty, Manager's of Freight Depot Building. Mr. Jensen said Carriage Realty is asking the board to approve the placement of a sign to identify the organization within the Freight Depot. It would be located approximately 20 ft. from the curb on W. 1st Street which would identify the Labor Force. The labor force will utilize 986 sq. ft. of the building. It will be a small dispatch office maintained by 2 staff personnel and the remaining area will be an area for the people waiting for work. The dispatch area will be air conditioned and in the waiting area, the roll up doors will be used for ventilation. The 2 staff personnel will try and keep the people from loitering outside. The sign will be 4 x 6, wood construction, 4 ft. above the ground. The sign was approved by the historical board. Dave Freeman was present to speak also. He stated he opens at 6:00 A.M. and dispatched people out until 9:00 or 10:00 A.M. When:the work orders are completed, he closes. The office is reopened around 2:30 or 3:00 P.M. to have the people come back in to get paid. Mr. Carli moved to approve the site plan for 986 sq. ft. for Labor Force. Mr. Keith seconded. Motion carried unanimously. Mr. Carli moved to recommend staff to inform an owner of rental commercial property with 2 or more tenants to notify his tenants of any public hearings for conditional uses affecting his property. Mr. Davidson seconded. Motion carried. The board was concerned that with a change of use or a new owner, there should be a site plan to be approved. Mrs. Roberts asked staff to check out a big boat on the corner of 2nd & Mellonville Avenue. MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION - March 19, 1987 - 7:00 P.M. Page 5 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - - - - -- The Chairman stated that the board members each received a copy of the memo on Barbed Wire and a copy of a letter from Pete Knowles on an appeal for Gazil's property. Mr. Morris said he had an opinion from the City Attorney in reference to the board having sub - committee's. If they make recommendations or examine various codes, it must be open to the public and held in the "sunshine ". Mrs. Roberts moved to recommend the employment of the consultant, Ivey, Bennett, Harris and Walls Inc. to include a concurrent revision of the land development codes to be in conformity of the state's requirements for Sanford's Comprehensive Land Plan. Mr. Davidson seconded. Motion carried over the dissenting vote of Mr. Carli. The Minutes of the previous meeting were approved as corrected in reference to Beda Marine maintaining 10 to 12 boats and the largest would be 24 ft. There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.