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05.21.87MINEn!E S PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION May 21, 1987 7:00 P.M. .Members Present: John Morris, Chairman Sheila Roberts John Leroy Brent Carli Gary Davidson Eddie 0. Keith Members Absent: Others Present: Dr. Hortense Evans Jay Malone Joe Dennison Bettie Sonnenberg, Zoning Inspector Bill Simmons, Director of Engineering and Planning Jay Marder, City Planner The meeting was called to order at 7:10 P.M. by the Chairman, John Morris. The first item on the agenda was to hold a Public Hearing to consider a request for a conditional use for automotive, new and used, sales and service and an automotive body, repair and paint shop located at 185 West Airport Boulevard, represented by Mr. Norman R. Hanson. Mr. Hanson stated that they are in the process of purchasing this property with the estimated closing date being June 3rd. There will be oil changes only, no gasoline. Mr. Keith asked if there will be any storage of inoperable vehicles. Mr. Hanson said inoperable vehicles will be in a fenced area on the east side of the K -Mart property, chain link fence. The Chairman asked if there would be a problem with screening the fence to make it sight proof. Mr. Hanson has no problem with screening the chain -link fence so long as it is decorative to the property. Hours of operation to be from 7:00 A.M to 7:00 P.M., five days a week and on Saturday from 8:00 A.M to 12:00 P.M. Mr. Carli asked if it will just be auto service with no beer or wine, a type of convenience store. Mr. Hanson stated that this will not be a convenience store, auto related only. Mr. Davidson asked if there will be auto sales also. Mr. Hanson stated that their intention is to have new and used car sales. Mr. Keith moved to approve the request of conditional use with the exception that the inoperable vehicles or vehicles that are in need of repair be surrounded by sight proof fence. The motion was seconded by Ms. Roberts with no further discussion. Motion carried. The next item was a Public Hearing to consider a request for a conditional use for automotive new and used, sales and service and an automotive repair shop located at 1315 West 1st Street, represented by Bobby and Martha Jackson. MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING COf*1ISSI0N - May 21, 1987 - 7:00 P.M. Page 2 ----------- ------------------------------------- ----------------------- ---- Mr. Jackson stated that the Planning and Zoning Commission approved this piece of property in December 1985, financing could not be established at that time. Mr. Keith asked if the house in back is rental property. Mr. Jackson stated that the house that sits in back is rental property. Mr. Keith asked if any paving would be done because of the construction that is going on now. Mr. Jackson said no paving will be done in back of the station that is there now; only collecting fill dirt from DeWitt Paving that is doing the sewer work. The Chairman asked if there would be any gas pumps relative to a convenience store. Mr. Jackson stated that he had the gas pumps and tanks that were in the ground removed. Mr. Carli asked Mr. Jackson if he will manage and run the automobile and pick -up sales, service, and repair shop. Mr. Jackson said yes and that there will be no tractor - trailers or mobile homes. Mr. Carli move to approve the request for conditional use of new and used auto - mobile sales and service. Mr. Davidson seconded. The Chairman recommended that Mr. Jackson keep all repair work indoors. Mr. Jackson stated that all major work will be done inside. No further discussion. Motion carried. The next item on the agenda was a Public Hearing to consider a request for a conditional use for a duplex located at the northwest corner of El Portal Avenue and Desoto Drive, represented by Joseph Garrison. Mr. Garrison stated that the general nature of the neighborhood is a mixture of both residential duplexes and apartments. His intention is to live in one side of the duplex and rent the other side out. Mr. Garrison stated that it would offer a buffer between the existing single family residential and commercial property across the street. The Chairman asked the square footage of each side of the duplex. Mr. Garrison stated that the duplex will have 1960 square feet per side. Mr. Garrison said that he lives right behind the property now and plans on leasing off the present home. Ms. Carol Martin spoke in opposition to the proposed conditional use stating that she lives across the street one house down. She stated that she has a letter fron the man who lives directly across the street and that they just don't want the duplex. She has lived here for 9 years and that the duplex will bring the value of her house down if she decided to sell. Mr. Carli concurred with Mr. Garrison that it would be a buffer in what is hap- pening in that area and moved for approval to pass a conditional use and for the Planning and Zoning Commission to take a good look at it when it cones in for site plan review. Moved on approval subject to site plan review. Ms. Roberts seconded. Motion carried subject to site plan review. The next item on the agenda was the consideration of a site plan for Coker Car Wash, represented by Andrew Kutz. The Chairman asked Mr. Kutz if the alley will be used for any purpose and Mr. Rutz stated the alley has been vacated. The alley is now the middle of the parking lot of the Lil Champ next door. Mrs. Sonnenberg stated that no building permits will be issued until an access utility easement is provided for. There will be no way to get into the car wash from the Lil Champ driveway MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING CU44ISSION - May 21, 1987 - 7:00 P.M. Page 3 or that alley. The Chairman inquired as to the access off of 25th Street. Mr. Kutz stated for the access off of 25th Street that under FDOT the access will be a 15 -foot one way in. Mr. Carli asked if the lighting will be interior. Mr. Kutz stated that there will be vending machines out front and that the lights on the back will be changed to shield the neighbors so that it will not shine onto the neighbor's property. The lights in front will not bother anyone. A 6 -foot fence will be erected along the back of the property. The building will be brick with wood frame, wood trusses with concrete block walls. There will be minimum clearance, maximum 10 -foot, will not be high enough for 21 ton trucks. Mr. Coker to be responsible for hedges. Mr. Leroy asked Mr. Kutz about the signage along Geneva. Mr. Kutz stated that the only sign is to be specially constructed on the roof. Mr. Carli moved to approve the site plan subject to a utility easement being recorded before issuance of any building permits and the landscaping to be the responsibility of Mr. Coker. Mr. Davidson seconded. Notion carried. The next item on the agenda was the consideration of the site plan for a mixed use of two apartments, four roans and a retail shop located at 301 Park Avenue, represented by Kim Townsend, Engineering Services. Mr. Townsend stated that he is representing a parking layout for Mike Nace. Mr. Davidson asked the Chairman if the Board had approved some type of deed restriction on this piece of property a month or two ago. The Chairman stated yes and Mr. Townsend said that Mr. Hutchinson had given him a copy of the restricted covenant and he passed around a letter from Mr. Tamm regarding this. The Chairman asked if the old foundation would be taken out. Mr. Townsend said yes, that the parking lot would be totally improved. Mr. Carli asked where were lots 9 and 12. Mr. Townsend stated that they were immediately south of this property; lot 9 is 305 and lot 12 is 311 Park Avenue. At this point it was much discussion relative to parking spaces. Excess parking on the existing lot will be utilized to serve the rooming house. The Chairman asked if this included a retail establishment. Mr. Townsend stated that that was in error, early on there was some discussion about selling Bibles in a small retail outlet but Mr. Nace decided against that and it will be strictly used for roaming facilities. Mr. Carli stated that this establishment has been unoccupied for two years and before that use it was a restaurant, and there is no site plan coning before the Commission. Mrs. Sonnenberg stated that staff reviewed the parking layout as a site plan. Mr. Townsend stated that he had contacted the City Engineering Department and was led to believe that they were looking for parking lot and since there was nothing being done to the vertical structure, no changes to the water or sewer, they wanted to show the parking, sane reten- tion areas, signage and that type of thing. Mr. Carli stated that he has a problem with this and asked why the Board did not have a site plan for the two story structure. He stated that the Board had requested a site plan. The Chairman stated that the original concept was for the parking lot, unaware that the old restaurant was included; we wanted to see the parking lot to make sure that landscaping and this type thing was ade- quately covered. MINUTES - PLANNING AMID ZONING CO USSION - May 21, 1987 - 7:00 P.M. Page 4 ------------ ----------------------- ----------------- ------------------ --------- Mr. Simmons stated that the City was mostly concerned with the parking lot. He had Mr. Nace obtain the services of an engineer because his attempt at a site plan for the parking lot without professional services was inadequate. He did not meet the requirements relative to treatment of drainage and this sort of thing. Mr. Simmons stated that the house, as such, was not really what he was looking at and concerning himself with in the review of the site plan which Mr. Nace and Mr. Reid originally proposed. There is a miscommunication here in the preparation of the comment which recommended including the house. Mr. Simmons stated that he did not see the recommendation before it was put before the Commission members tonight. Mr. Simmons stated that he is not certain as to what additional information is needed relative to a site plan for a facility that is unessentially changed in any way other than receiving a paint job and being now called a different type of facility, perhaps, with some interior par- tition changes. The Chairman inquired as to the interior changes and Mr. Simmons stated that interior changes are not normally what Planning and Zoning Commission busy themselves with. Mr. Carli made comments concerning information that the Commission has been requesting from Staff for months. The Chairman asked Mrs. Sonnenberg if the site plan met all standards. Mrs. Sonnenberg replied yes, minimal standards. The Chairman asked if it will be licensed by the hotel folks and how will the parking spaces be listed. Mr. Townsend said yes that it would be licensed and that the parking spaces would be numbered and identified strictly for that structure. Ms. Roberts asked instead of two apartments would it be four rooms. Mr. Townsend stated that it would be one apartment downstairs and four rooms upstairs. Mr. Simmons stated that it was two items discussed with Mack Lazenby that he would like included in the parking lot site plan if it is approved before a motion is made. He stated that a one -inch asphalt overlay is to be for the whole parking lot; and that the curb cut fran the north end of the alley is wider than the throat of the alley and needs to be replaced with curb. Mr. Townsend stated that they have no problem with any adjustments and their intent is to pave the entire parking lot. The Chairman asked Mr. Simmons and Mr. Townsend if the alley is going to be graded and stabilized. Mr. Townsend said no and Mr. Simmons stated not in this point in time. The Chairman asked who is responsible for the new curbing. Mr. Simmons stated that the City is not and it is a part of this site plan. Mr. LeRoy asked that in the northwest corner, the intersection of 3rd and Park, there is a note that says new curb and sod but concrete is delineated and it just shows grass area between two curb cuts. Mrs. Sonnenberg stated that the concrete is to be removed and new curbing is put in then resodded. Ms. Roberts moved to approve site plan as modified with the inclusion of floor plans. Mr. Davidson seconded. Mr. Carli stated that he is going to vote in favor of the motion on the repretation of the professionalism of Engineering Services because the information was not adequately presented to the Board MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION - May 21, 1987 - 7:00 P.M. Page 5 because of lack of information, which is not Engineering Services fault. Approved by a vote of 5 to 1. Motion carried. The next item on the agenda was the consideration of a site plan for an addi- tion to S.W.O.P., a service work opportunity program, represented by William Poe. Mr. Poe explained that they wanted to take the modular unit that was donated to S.W.O.P. by First Federal of Seminole and to make an addition to the sheltered workshop for the handicapped citizens of Seminole County. This addition allows S.W.O.P. to create an adult education center which allows for teaching of day to day skills that are necessary for independent functions of retarded citi- zens. Mr. Carli asked if they shared the easement alleyway with the automobile dealership. Mr. Poe replied yes. Mr. Carli then stated that on the plan, Mr. Poe shows the traffic flow to be going in on that alley, going west and making a turn south, the alley is 20 -foot wide; does the car dealership go out on the south. Mr. Carli asked if it would work better if it flowed the other way because of head on traffic from the dealership. Mr. Poe agreed to reverse the entry and exit signs to cone in on the south side and exit on the north side. Mr. Carli asked Mr. Poe if there would be parking in the alley. Mr. Poe replied no and will identify same on side of building. Mr. Carli moved to approve the site plan with amendment as stated to reverse the entrance and exit sign with no parking in alley. Ms. Roberts seconded. All in favor. Motion carried. The next item on the agenda was consideration of change of use to five apart- ment units at 718 West 1st Street, represented by Steve Laughlin. The Chairman asked Mr. Laughlin if it was a change to a five unit apartment house. Mr. Laughlin stated that it has been five units since about 1958, he is not changing the use, trying to upgrade the property since December. Mr. Simmons explained that what we have here is that the City Commission approved a change of right-of-way use permit in order to allow Mr. Laughlin to provide adequate off - street parking, he previously had no off - street parking and still pending City Commission approval is a small addition to the right-of-way use to be granted in order to give him the dumpster site at the very far north end of his seven parking spaces. Mr. Simmons also explained that if approval is given it would have to be conditioned upon the anticipated approval by the City Commission of the dumpster site, the dumpster is there and has been there basi- cally long term and if the City Commission happens not to approve it for some reason then Mr. Laughlin would have to go to some alternate mans of trash disposal; but he does have the approval for parking spaces 1 thru 7 from the City Commission. Mr. Carli asked if Mr. Laughlin had been in front of Code Enforcement. Mr. Laughlin stated yes for adding onto the property without having a permit, but he showed them where he was not adding onto it just taking the siding off the building and putting on a new roof, improving the plumbing and a new electrical system. The Chairman asked if the porch was considered as one unit. Mr. Laughlin explained that the porch is part of one unit which is divided. The Chairman then how may bathrooms does he have. Mr. Laughlin stated five. Mr. Carli asked why Mr. Laughlin was here. Mrs. Sonnenberg stated that we have it listed as a single family structure. MINUTES - PLANNING AND ZONING COM USSION - May 21, 1987 - 7:00 P.M. Page 6 Mr. Carli moved for approval. Ms. Roberts seconded subject to City Commission approval of parking. All in favor. Motion carried. Mr. Carli stated that he had received a phone call concerning Beda Marine. Sail boat was not suppose to be left in the parking lot, the hedge is not up; there was suppose to be a walk around pad and no signs around the building. The Chairman asked Ms. Sonnenberg is she had spoken with the City Attorney on this. Mrs. Sonnenberg said she had not because of the lateness of the after- noon. Mr. Simmons stated his reaction would be that if they haven't followed the site plan then cite them, we do not have to ask the City Attorney for per- mission. Mr. Carli stated that if they are not licensed or permitted, they can't store boats or trailers at a retail site. Mr. Simmons stated that the City will investigate and cite. The Chairman asked that the Code Enforcement Board check on this. Mr. LeRoy asked if anything had been done about the car wash downtown about the cars parked in back. Mrs. Sonnenberg apologized for not having checked on this and will have a copy of the report for the next meeting. Mr. LeRoy asked how Item 5 and Item 6 on the agenda differs. Mr. Simmons stated that Item 5 was a change of use in the case of a parking lot, the necessity of getting it properly designed and landscaped. Mrs. Sonnenberg explained that approval was delegated to staff on modular units. Mr. Simmons stated that he had S.W.O.P. cane before the Commission also because there was a request by certain citizens that the approval for the temporary mobile facility not be extended for another year. In investigating this Mr. Simmons stated that we found that the facility is not mobile but modular, therefore the request for extending it for another year as a mobile became academic and chose to send it to Planning and Zoning because of objections by certain residents due to its presence there. Mr. LeRoy made motion to approve minutes. Mr. Davidson seconded. All in favor. Motion carried. Meeting adjourned at 9:00.