01.04.73Planning and Zoning Commission
January 4, 1973
Minutes
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Arthur Harris, Chairman
Victor Gischler
Jeff Davis
Robert Karns
David Berrien
Edward Blacksheare
Rudy Sloan
Philip Logan
C.B. Franklin
None
W. E. Knowles, City Manager
L. J. Risner, Zoning Official
Mack LaZenby, City Engineer
Gerald Dake, City Planner
The meeting was called into executive session
at 8 :00 P.M. by Arthur Harris, Chairman.
The first item of business was consideration
of several site plans.
1. Americana Complex - -PUD (Planned Unit Dev-
elopment. Mr. Don Gibbs was present to re-
present the plans to be considered. Pre-
viously approved as a PUD, it is a parcel
of the Dreyfus Community, located South of
Airport Blvd., East of 17 -92, and North of
the Old Orlando Highway. This will include
173 Acres, with 285 Single - Family dwellings,
with gross density being 13 units per acre.
Townhouses will be constructed with density
being 10 units per acre. He stated that
all structures will far exceed minimum set
back requirements and open space require-
ments, noting that the Greenbelt areas are
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strictly for recreational facilities, includ-
ing boat storage facilities. Gerald Dake
noted several points for concern:
A. Circulation - The driving area passes
through the proposed parking lots. Due to
quite a large density, police protection
in these areas would be difficult.
B. The plans did not show that the platted
streets would not have access to Lake Mary
Boulevard.
C. The possibility of greenbelts not being
suitable for playfields, parks, etc.
D. No details for garbage and trash pick-
up. W.E. Knowles stated City garbage trucks
cannot and will not go on private streets
for pick -ups.
E. Dreyfus is to submit total plans, that
is, a Master Plan, including traffic, util-
ities, greenbelts and playgrounds.
F. This plan did not show parks.
Mack LaZenby stated that these plans were
not coordinated enough. On recommendation
of C.B. Franklin, seconded by Rudy Sloan,
it was moved to table this discussion due
to the preliminary stage of these plans.
The second Site Plan for approval was for an office
building for Conklin and Porter. Mr. Cal Conklin
was present and explained the building would con-
tain 4,000 square feet of office space, employing
12 or 13 persons. The plan showed no landscaping
and insufficient parking spaces, and was there-
fore moved by C.B. Franklin and seconded by Dave
Berrien that with a landscaping plan and twenty
(20) paved parking spaces, these plans be approved.
The third Site Plan was for Mr. H.B. McEachern,
who resides at 1801 Maple Ave, Sanford. He asked
that the Board give approval for a small green-
house to grow orchids in, to be located on his
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lot at the same address. His property is zoned
RC -1, Restricted Commercial. It was moved by
Rudy Sloan, and seconded by Edward Blacksheare
and duly carried, that if properly screened by
fence or shrub on the South side, these plans
be approved.
Seminole Fire and Equipment submitted the next
plan for approval. He proposes to build a 750
square foot building for his business. He stated
that the access to the parking area is off of
the alley. On recommendation by Dave Berrien,
seconded by Edward Blacksheare, it was moved to
approve these plans on condition of five (5)
paved parking spaces to be included.
Next was a plan for a metal building to be con-
structed for B. Edwards Builders Supply. It is
presently zoned MR - 2, and the business is now
of a non - conforming use. Chairman Harris stated
that due to the non - conformity of the present
business, the Board could not approve an addition.
He further stated that the owner could request
for a change in zoning.
The next item for consideration was a plan for
the entrance of Hidden Lake Estates. The size
of the sign was not marked on the plans, but
on recommendation by Philip Logan and seconded
by Victor Gischler, it was moved to approve this
plan if the sign complies with the present sign
ordinance and lighting ordinance, with the under-
standing that the Home - Owners Association will
maintain these areas. Chairman Harris instructed
Mr. Risner to contact Dick Bond as we have yet
to receive the Revised Home - Owners Association
Charter.
Northridge Condominium Complex was the next
item of discussion, represented by Mr. Gerald
Tannenbaum. This project will be located South
of Lake Minnie. Mack Lazenby, City Engineer,
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stated the utility and drainage plans look good.
Although the property has not yet been annexed,
the density conforms to present standards.
Subject to City Approval of trash and garbage
pick -up plan, it was moved by Bob Karns and
seconded by C.B. Franklin that the Site Plan
be approved.
Mr. Jackman, representing Lake Mary Estates,
was present with the final plat. The plat
did not show six (6) acres of suitable land to
be dedicated to the City for use as a park. It
was previously agreed to show the playground
area, but these plans showed no finished park.
Also a third sheet was missing from these plans
and is to be attached prior to approval. It
was moved by Robert Karns and seconded by Jeff
Davis that these plans be approved pending a
third sheet of plans to be attached, showing
a six (6) acre finished park area. The City
Commission has instructed the Mayor to execute
these plans immediately after Planning and
Zoning has approved them.
Consideration was next given to amending the
Zoning Ordinance as follows: GC -2, General
Commercial Zone, "Uses Permitted" -Item "q" to read as follows:
Hotels, Motels and Apartments
with density conforming to 15 -17 Units per Acre.
Elections were then held for Chairman and Vice-
Chairman of the Planning and Zoning Commission
for the upcoming year. Arthur H. Harris was
unanimously re- elected as Chairman, and Philip
LoW4i by unanimous vote, was elected as Vice -
Chairman.
It was again brought to the Commission's atten-
tion that all Site Plans be submitted ten (10)
days prior to each Planning and Zoning Meeting,
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and that these plans must include surrounding
areas and their zoning.
Gerald Dake, City Planner, lead a discussion
concerning the Florida State Comprehensive
Planning Act of 1972, which established reg-
ional Planning Districts.
A general discussion concerning the feelings
of the Commission regarding the possibility of
zoning for Townhouses on a five (5) acre tract
west of Idyllwilde, North of Country Club Road,
with density being 5 to 6 units per acre. This
area is not in the City limits presently. This
property is contiguous with Idyllwilde 3rd Section,
and the Upsala Church. Jeff Davis voiced opp-
osition citing traffic situations are hazardous
in that area now. Gerald Dake, City Planner,
said he would not recommend density over 2 to 3
units per acre. This seemed to be the entire
Commission's feelings.
Mr. Risner presented a drawing to the Commission
which would extend present fire districts to
include all SC -3, Special Commercial zoned areas.
In the SC -3 zone, there are no front, rear or
side yard requirements, and this increases
chances of fire due to the closeness of buildings.
It was moved by Robert Karns and Seconded by
Victor Gischler to recommend to the City Comm-
ission that the present fire zone be extended
to include all SC -3 zoned areas.
Discussion was held concerning a proposed in-
dividual type warehousing concept for the Lee
property at the N.W. corner of Fulton Street
and Maple Concourse. This area is presently
zoned GC -2 but the zoning ordinance allows
uses of RI -1 to be used as conditional uses in
the GC -2 zones. The general consensus was that
if properly landscaped and subject to Site Plan
Approval, the plan would be accepted.
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Consideration of recommendations for zoning for newly annexed
properties was next. After a general discussion, on the motion
of Mr. Logan, seconded by Mr. Blacksheare and carried, the
following zones were recommended to the City Commission:
1. Lot:- and Lots 4 through 12, Lake Minnie Estates,
MR -1 (Multiple Family Residential Dwelling) District.
2. Beg at int of W line of St Rd 15 & 600 & S line of
Sanford Grant 737.4 ft NELY alg Rd for POB, Run N
64k deg W 896 ft N 25k deg E 710 ft S 64k deg E 896
ft SWLY alg Rd 710 ft to POB, Sec 11- 20 -30; and
Beg 51 ft N25k deg E of int Wly R/W H/W 17 -92 & S line
Sanford Grant Run N 25k deg E 88.87 ft N 64k deg W
10 ft N 25k deg E 391.53 ft N 64k deg W 241:4 ft S
64k deg E 100 ft S 25k deg W 290 ft S 64k deg E 495.87
ft S 25k deg W 101.3 ft S 64k deg E 151.19 ft S 64k
deg E 210.25 ft to beg. Sec 11- 20 -30; and
Lot 29 less W 300 ft & S 20 ft for Rd, Lake Minnie
Estates, PB 6 Pg 92; and
Ely 170.7 ft of Lot 30 Lake Minnie Estates, PB 6 Pg 92;
and, Beg int WLY R/W 17 -92 & S Line Sanford Grant Run
N 25k deg E 51 ft N 65 deg W 125.25 ft S 25k deg W 151.19
ft S,65 deg E 125 ft N 25� deg E to beg, Sec 11- 20 -30;
— and,(Beg 200 ft S of NE cor of SWk of SEk Run W to H/W
Sally alg H/W 100 ft E to E line of SWk of SEk N to beg,
Sec 11- 20 -30;� and, Beg at int WLY line H/W 17 -92 & N
line of SWk Run NWLY alg Rd 100 ft N 59 deg 26 min W to
line of SWk E to POB, Sec 14- 20 -30; and, All NE'k ofSW'k
Run SWLY alg Rd 100 ft N 59 deg 26 min W to N line SWk
E to POB, Sec 14- 20 -30; and, Beg NE cor of NWk of SWk
Run S 351 ft to US 17 -92 N 22 deg 25 Min W 379.9 ft to
pt W of BEg E 144.7 ft to beg, Sec 14- 20 -30; and,
Ely 250 ft of: Beg 144.7 ft W of NE cor of NWk of SWk
Run W 1172.7 ft S 300 ft S 59 deg 39 min E 1054.9 ft to US
17 -92 N 41 deg 18 min E 650 ft N 22 deg 25 min W 379.9
ft to beg, Sec 14- 20 -30; and, Ely 250 ft of: Beg 300 ft
S of NW cor of SWk Run S 1025.3 ft E 477.7 ft to US 17 -92
N 41 deg 18 min E 650 ft N 59 deg 39 min W 1054.9 ft
to beg less St Rd Sec 14- 20 -30; and, W 6 3/4 ch of SWk
of St Rd, Sec 14 - 20 -30; and, Beg at the NE cor of the
SEk of Sec 11720S -30E, run S 89 deg 31' 19" W 1009.73
ft to a point of beg; continue thence Westward 400 ft
to apoint of the E ROW line of US 17 -92. Run thence S
20 deg 48'41" W 214.64 ft; run thence N 89 deg 31'19" E
,166.16 ft; run thence due mouth 460.92 ft, run thence
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N 89 deg 31'19" E 310.11 ft; thence run North tothe
point of beginning; GC -2 (General Commercial) District.
3..' Lots 1, 2 & 3, less roads Browning & Heppe Survey PB162
Pg 49; and, Beg 144.7 ft W of NE cor of NWk of SWk Run
W 1172.7 ft S 300 ft S 59 deg 39' E 1054.9 ft to US 17 -92
N 41 deg 18' E 650 ft N 22 deg 25' W 379.9 ft to beg, less
ELY 250 ft, Sec 14- 20 =30; and, Beg 300 ft S of NW cor of
SWk Run S 1025.3 ft E 477.7 ft to US 17 -92 N 41 deg 18'
E 650 ft N 59 deg 39' W 1054.9 ft to beg less St Rd, less
Ely 250 ft, Sec 14- 20 -30; and, E� of SEk, less St Rd,
Sec 15- 20 -30; and, Lots 52 and 64 & Vacated Roads less
beg SW cor Lot 56 Run N 636 ft E 2054.72 ft S 635. -99 ft
W 2055.1 ft to beg & Rds Sanford Substantial Farms PB 5,
Pg 84; and, NW'k of SWk less Rd. sec 15- 20 -30; and,
That part of lots 53 to 57 beg SW cor lot 56 Run N 636 ft
E 2054.7 ft S 635.99 ft W 2055.1 ft to beg less Rd Sanford
Substantial Farms Pb 5 Pg 84; and, NLY 240 ft of Lot A I q
less NLY 20 ft for Rd Lake Minnie Estates PB 6 Pg 92; and,
S 75.52 ft of Lots 1 & 3 less beg SE cor Lot 1 RunNELY alg
rd 100 ft W 275 ft S 12 deg min W 59.5 ft.,S 59 deg 24 min
E to S line lots 1 & 3 E to beg, Lake Minnie Estates,
PB 6 Pg 92; and, Beg SE cor Lot 1 Run NELY alg Rd 100 ft
W 275 ft S 12 deg 25 min W 59.5 ft S 59 deg 24 min E to S
line Lots 1 & 3 E to beg, Lake Minnie Estates, PB 6 Pg 92;
NR,;,l (Multiple Family Residential Dwelling) District.
4. Gov't Lot 1 & all S� of SEk of SEk W of E line Sanford
Grant, Sec 11- 20 -30; and Lots 8 & 9, Block S, Sunland
Estates, PB 11, Pgs 16 through 22; and, The northerly
200 ft of the SWk of the SEk lying east of US 17 -92 and
the N� of the SEk of the SEk, less Begiinning at the NE
cor of the SEk of Sec 11- 20S -30E, run S 89 deg 31'19" W
1009.73 ft to a point of beginning. Continue thence
westward 400 ft to a point on the E R/W line of US 17 =92.
Run thence S 20 deg 48'41" W 214.64 ft; run thence due
south 460.92 ft., run thence N89 deg 31'19" E 310.11
feet; thence run North to the point of beginning.
MR -2 (Multiple Family Residential Dwelling) District.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.
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Arthur Harris, Chairman