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07.13.00Historic Preservation Board Meeting Notice Date: July 13, 2000 Location Sanford City Hall City Commission Chambers 300 North Park Avenue Sanford, Florida 32771 Time: 5:00 P.M. AGENDA L Call to Order IL Roll Call - excused and un- excused absences III. Approval of Minutes - June 8, 2000 IV. Applications for Certificates of Appropriateness - Commercial A. 217 Park Avenue (Big Brothers Food Market Texaco) - previously tabled Install signs, signs to be presented at meeting B. 114 West First Street (Welaka Building) - previously tabled Install diesel generator at back of building V. Applications for Certificates of Appropriateness - Residential A. 1215 Magnolia Avenue Replace & relocate side door, replace front door B. 901 South Magnolia Avenue Add two columns to facade C. 201 French Avenue (Burger King) Present design alternatives to the enclosed playground concept D. 201 French Avenue (Burger King) Replace signage E. 1307 Park Avenue (Rose Cottage Tea Room) Build 800 sq. ft. addition. Plans available at meeting. F. 701 Myrtle Avenue - preciously tabled Detached Garage, fence, paint house, porch spindles, add dormer to roof. Shed plans will be available at meeting. G. 1317 Park Avenue - preciously tabled Fence, Storage Building, Add Shutters, Paint House. H. 711 Park Avenue -previously tabled Storage Building L 107 East 7 th Street Exterior renovations. Plans available at meeting. J. 206 Elm Avenue Signage, plans will be available at meeting. July 13, 2000 Historic Preservation Board Meeting, Page 2 VI. Discussion regarding Meeting with City Commission regarding Code Enforcement (Charles Rowe) VII. Discussion regarding Certified Local Government - Fred Rodgers VIII. Other Business IX. Adjournment ADVICE TO THE PUBLIC If a person decides to appeal a decision made with respect to any matter considered at the above meeting or hearing, he /she may need a verbatim record of the proceedings, including the testimony and evidence, which record is not provided by the City of Sanford (FS 286.0105). Persons with disabilities needing assistance to participate in any of these proceedings should contact the Personnel Office ADA Coordinator at 407 - 330 -5626, no later than 48 hours in advance of the meeting. MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING OF JULY 13, 2000 5:00 P.M. CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS, CITY HALL SANFORD, FLORIDA MEMBERS PRESENT: Bob Kuhn Barbara Farrell Claudia Webber Scott Singeisen Eline Ransom Fred Rogers MEMBERS ABSENT: Julia Goeb- excused Walt Padgett- excused Barbara Knowles Don Moore Bart Rush OTHERS PRESENT: Brad Stevenson, Staff Liaison Marion Anderson, Recording Secretary Mr. Singeisen called the meeting to order at 5:00 P.M. Mr. Rogers moved to approve the Minutes of June 8, 2000. Seconded by Ms. Farrell. All in favor. Motion carried. Application for Certificate of Appropriateness - Commercial: 217 Park Avenue (Big Brothers Food Market Texaco) previously tabled. Install signs. Ms. Webber moved to remove this item from the table. Seconded by Mr. Rogers. All in favor. Motion carried. Emad Al -Khub, Manager, presented the signs that he would like to display. He requested to have the Lotto sign and the cigarette sign on the sidewalk. Mr. Stevenson stated that this is the City's right -of -way and the signs would have to be placed on the other side of the sidewalk. Ms. Webber stated that the grassy triangle on the corner of the property would be a good place for the signs. Mr. Rogers moved to approve the signs as presented with a six (6) month review of placement on the property. Seconded by Ms. Webber. All in favor. Motion carried. Application for Certificate of Appropriateness - Commercial: 114 West First Street (Welaka Building) - previously tabled. Install a diesel generator at the back of building. Ms. Webber moved to remove from the table. Seconded by Ms. Farrell. All in favor. Motion carried. Dennis Joyner, County Elections Office, represented this request. He stated that the City Commission has approved the use of right -of -way for the generator. The generator will not be visible from the front of the building or First Street. It will sit in the alley abutting the loading dock. There will be no fencing and a slab would have to be poured to hold it. MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING OF JULY 13, 2000 PAGF, 7. Ms. Webber moved to approve. Seconded by Ms. Ransom. Ms. Ransom encouraged that some type of screening be installed on the Park Avenue side. All in favor. Motion carried. Application for Certificate of Appropriateness - Residential: 1215 Magnolia Avenue - replace and relocate side door, replace front door. Tony Daniels, 901 Magnolia, stated that he would like to make two changes to this property. He would like to change out the front door, and move one back door to the side. A window with matching vinyl siding will be installed where the back door is to be removed. He stated that he would prefer steel doors. Ms. Ransom moved to approve as submitted. Seconded by Ms. Webber. Ms. Farrell asked if the applicant could look into providing vinyl clad. Ms. Webber and Ms. Ransom in favor of the motion. All others in opposition. Motion denied. Ms. Farrell moved that the applicant look into providing vinyl clad doors for front and back and come back as a minor review. Seconded by Mr. Kuhn. All in favor. Motion carried. Application for Certificate of Appropriateness - Residential: 901 S. Magnolia Avenue - add two columns to the facade. Tony Daniels stated that this home was built in 1916. The span across the front porch is 37'. The front porch roof elevation is sagging. He would like to match the current arches that are on the side of the house. He would like to replace the 37' arch with three smaller ones, constructing two veneered columns with grey stone. After discussion regarding repairing and keeping the arch the way it is, Ms. Ransom moved to table to further investigate along with Mr. Rogers and bring their recommendations back to the Board at the next meeting. Seconded by Mr. Rogers. All in favor. Motion carried. Application for Certificate of Appropriateness - Residential: 201 French Avenue - present design alternatives to the enclosed playground concept. Jan Jacoby, Leader Consulting Group, stated that Burger King is proposing to enclose the existing playground. The playground will be two- stories because of the height, the colors will match the existing building a new concrete pad with padding will put in, equipment will be upgraded. Ms. Jacoby stated that the foot print will not change. Ms. Farrell moved to approve as submitted. Seconded by Ms. Webber. Mr. Kuhn stated that he is concerned about the infill between the windows. Ms. Jacoby couldn't comment on this. Mr. Rogers requested that, after having worked on this project from day one, the windows need to have more space between them along with longer shutters. The motion and the second were withdrawn. Mr. Singeisen suggested that the door shown on the west elevation onto the drive -thru, should be on the east elevation. Ms. Jacoby stated that it is an exit that is a requirement for fire purposes. Mr. Singeisen suggested that it should go on the east elevation facing the parking lot vs. drive isle. Mr. Rogers moved to table until next month with the discussed revisions. Seconded by Ms. Farrell. All in favor. Motion carried. Application for Certificate of Appropriateness - Residential: 201 French Avenue, replace signage. MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING OF JULY 13, 2000 PAGE 3 Paula Walsinger, Collins Signs, stated that they would like to replace the existing signs with the new logos. Burger King has changed their national logo to a round logo. All replacement signs will be installed in the same places as the old. The new copy is round, the old square. The old colors are orange and red, the new are yellow, red, and blue. Ms. Farrell moved to approve as submitted with the directional, drive -thru, and informational signs being externally illuminated. Seconded by Ms. Ransom. All in favor. Motion carried. Application for Certificate of Appropriateness -Residential: 1307 Park Avenue, (Rose Cottage Tea Room), build 800 sq. ft. addition. Sica Nacu stated that the site has been approved by Planning and Zoning for abed and breakfast. She is proposing a two bedroom apartment that will have french double hung doors. Mr. Kuhn moved to approve conceptually. Seconded by Mr. Rogers. All in favor. Motion carried. Application for Certificate of Appropriateness - Residential: 701 Myrtle Avenue, detached garage, fence, paint house, porch spindles, add dormer to roof. Previously tabled. Celeste Revera, 701 Myrtle Avenue, stated that they would like to repaint the house with the submitted colors. The garage /shed will be 14'x3 0' with one garage door. They are thinking about putting a dormer on the back that mirrors the one that is there now because they have to have the second dormer on the rear of the house in order to use the second floor as living space. She stated that the dormer will be done later on down the road. Right now they would like to get the porch spindles done, to do them along with the painting and getting the garage in the back. Mr. Singeisen stated that when she is ready for the dormer, she should provide the Board with elevations of the house, full photographs of the front and rear of the house with maybe an overlay of how the dormer will work. Ms. Farrell moved to table the addition of the dormer to a later date. Seconded by Mr. Rogers. All in favor. Motion carried. Mr. Rogers moved to approve the front porch spindles and handrails. Seconded by Mr. Kuhn. All in favor. Motion carried. Ms. Revera stated that the detached shed/garage will be 14'x30' with one garage door and single entry door, aluminum wood frame construction, by Superior Sheds. The shed will be 3' off the property line from the neighbors, it will be 30' from the street to the actual garage door. The access to the garage will be from the alley. Due to the size, the materials and the visibility of the placement of the garage /shed, Mr. Kuhn moved to table in order for the applicant to do more research on other sheds. Seconded by Ms. Webber. All in favor. Motion carried. Application for Certificate of Appropriateness - Residential: 1317 Park Avenue - fence, storage building, add shutters, paint. Previously tabled. Mr. Rogers moved to remove from the table. Seconded by Mr. Kuhn. All in favor. Motion carried. Domenic & Charles Fusco, 1317 S. Park Avenue, were present. Ms. Fusco stated that they would like to replace the chain link fence along the side and back of their house with a 6' fence with 2' lattice. Mr. Kuhn moved to approve the fence. Seconded by Mr. Rogers. All in favor. Motion carried. MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING OF JULY 13, 2000 PAGF, 4 Ms. Fusco stated that the proposed shed is 16'x16', horizontal hardy plank with wood doors and wood windows. Mr. Rogers moved to approve the 16'x16' storage building with wood doors, wood windows and hardy plank board. Seconded by Mr. Kuhn. All if favor. Motion carried. Ms. Fusco stated that eventually they will be switching out the jalousie windows to wood windows, but for now they would like to add shutters to the backside because the windows leak. Mr. Kuhn moved to table to allow the applicant to provide a drawing and the materials that the shutters will be made of Seconded by Ms. Farrell. All in favor. Motion carried. Regarding the paint, Mr. Singeisen stated that the colors are not part of the historic paint pallet. Some type of reference is needed. The paint colors will be decided as a minor review by a majority of the group. Certificate of Appropriateness - Residential: 711 Park Avenue, storage building. Previously tabled. John Mercer represented this request. This is an 8x 10 standard shed. Mr. Rogers moved to approve with some type of visual screen on Park Avenue. Seconded by Mr. Kuhn. Ms. Ransom opposition. All others in favor. Motion carried. Certificate of Appropriateness - Residential: 107 E. 7 th Street, exterior renovations. Danielle Trent, 7825 George Ann St., Winter Park, was present. She stated that she would like to extend the porti- cochere to the kitchen entrance and have the front downstairs room with 3 glass enclosures. She would like to change the alley side window to a bay window. Ms. Farrell cautioned Ms. Trent on the bay window because of the garbage trucks that use the alley. Ms. Trent stated that there will be a fence. Mr. Singeisen stated that it would help to have a site plan that shows the protrusion of the bay window toward the alley side. Mr. John Mercer voiced concerns regarding this property. He stated that if the work on this property won't start until January, it is too long. Neighbors would like to have it finished so that it looks like a house and not a dump. Boards that were put on three years ago have not been painted. There is plywood over the windows that haven't been touched. This property looks like a wreck, it is a disgrace to the neighborhood, front and back. Ms. Trent stated that she would have paint on the house no later than December. Mr. Kuhn stated that he didn't think the Board should approve any additional work until some of the exterior work is complete. It is time that something has to happen. Ms. Ransom moved to approve the windows. Seconded by Mr. Rogers. Mr. Kuhn and Mr. Singeisen in opposition. All others in favor. Motion carried. Application for Certificate of Appropriateness - Residential: 206 Elm Avenue - signage. Angelia Gordon, 206 Elm Avenue, was present. Mr. Rogers moved to approve the signs in either green or black. Seconded by Mr. Kuhn. All in favor. Motion carried. Ms. Gordon explained that the 17 wood shutters needed on the house is very expensive. Mr. Kuhn moved to approve the entrance and balcony shutters be done in wood with the rest vinyl. Seconded by Ms. Webber. All in favor. Motion carried. MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING OF JULY 13, 2000 PAGE 5 Ms. Gordon noted that she would be painting the exterior of the building this weekend, cream with white trim. Mr. Singeisen stated that she should get with Mr. Stevenson regarding the paint for approval. Discussion regarding Certified Local Government - Fred Rogers, was unanimously tabled until the September meeting. Mr. Stevenson to check on the signage at the Mexican Bakery on 2nd Street; the solid black tinting at 210 Park Avenue, and the vinyl lettering going in at the antique shops downtown. Mr. Kuhn reported that he had talked with Kevin Grace, County Manager, concerning the Florida Power & Light building. Mr. Grace had said he would check on the board -up and get back with him, but that was three weeks ago. There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 8:00 P.M.