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04.12.01Historic Preservation Board Meeting Notice and Agenda Date: April 12, 2001 Location: Sanford City Hall City Commission Chambers 300 North Park Avenue Sanford, Florida 32771 Time: 5:00 p.m. 1. Call to Order 2. Roll Call - excused and unexcused absences 3. Approval of Minutes: March 8, 2001 4. Applications for Certificates of Appropriateness - Commercial A. 210 S. Park Avenue Install sign on building 5. Applications for Certificates of Appropriateness — Residential A. 400 Palmetto Avenue: Replace front door (after- the -fact) (Tabled from 3/8/01); Install shed in rear yard (new request) B. 209 E. 4 th Street Attach wood railing to front porch C. 1109 S. Oak Avenue Install above - ground swimming pool D. 310 S. Magnolia Avenue Replace wood windows with aluminum windows E. 1209 Palmetto Avenue Widen carriage house F. 1119 S. Myrtle Avenue Extend 8' high fence; replace side door G. 718 S. Oak Avenue Replace door with window H. 709 S. Palmetto Avenue Remove outbuilding; construct new outbuilding I. 313 S. Palmetto Avenue Approve drawings of previous conceptually approved garage J. 218 S. Elm Avenue Replace windows; Change siding from aluminum to wood; replace flat roof with pitched; repair back of building K. 1002 S. Magnolia Avenue Replace flat roof with gabled; L. 519 S. Palmetto Avenue Paint mural on fence as part of summer school art class project 6. Request by Mr. Batten to designate the First Christian Church at 1607 Sanford Avenue Historic Landmark 7. Minor Reviews 8. Adjournment ADVICE TO THE PUBLIC If a person decides to appeal a decision made with respect to any matter considered at the above meeting or hearing, he /she may need a verbatim record of the proceedings, including the testimony and evidence, which record is not provided by the City of Sanford (FS 286.0105). Persons with disabilities needing assistance to participate in any of these proceedings should contact the Personnel Office ADA Coordinator at 407 - 330 -5626, no later than 48 hours in advance of the meeting. MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING OF APRIL 12, 2001 5:00 P.M. CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS CITY HALL, SANFORD, FLORIDA MEMBERS PRESENT: Melanie Winternheimer Kenneth Lowe Stephen Myers Alexander Then Mary Valente Fred Rogers Scott Singeisen Bob Kuhn MEMBERS ABSENT: Claudia Webber- excused Barbara Knowles Barbara Farrell- excused OTHERS PRESENT: Antonia Gerli, Staff Liaison Marion Anderson, Recording Secretary Mr. Rogers called the meeting to order at 5:00 P.M. Mr. Then requested that the Minutes of March 8, 2001 reflect the change for 101 W. 9 th Street that the reason he voted against the door was because it is of contemporary style and not suitable for historic buildings. With this change Ms. Winternheimer moved for approval. Seconded by Mr. Then. All in favor. Motion carried. Due to lack of representation, Mr. Then moved to table 210 S. Park Avenue, to install a sign on the building, until the end of the meeting. Seconded by Ms. Valente. All in favor. Motion carried. The first item considered was a Certificate of Appropriateness for 400 Palmetto Avenue to replace the front door (after the fact) that was tabled from 3/8/01, and to install a shed in the rear yard (new request). Cary Zendell, 400 S. Palmetto Avenue, was present. She stated that she had gotten a Certificate of Appropriateness to change the door. She came down to get a permit and was told that as long as she was just changing out a door, that was fine. She did not come in front of the Board because of that. When they took out the single door, they found that there were three doors side by side. When the door was taken out to replace, it was found that the door and frame were coming out of the house. There was termite damage. Mr. Then stated that his difficulty in approving any doors now is based on the facts that there are no drawings, no plans or designs. Photos of the current doors would help in making a decision along with photos of the house before the doors were put in. He stated that he has no objection with the fact that there are double doors, MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING OF APRIL 12, 2001 PAGE 2 his only objection to the current style is that they are very contemporary looking and not what he would consider appropriate for that style of house. Ms. Zendell stated that the doors are wood with leaded glass. There is nothing modern about the design of the lead. Mr. Rogers stated that the Board is finding more and more residents in the District going ahead and making window and door changes without the proper paperwork. He is concerned that residents are not checking with the City and applying for the appropriate paperwork to remove a window or door in these structures. Mr. Then moved to table until a more detailed application is submitted. Seconded by Mr. Rogers. All in favor. Motion carried. Regarding the construction of the storage shed, vinyl shutters for all windows, and to replace existing windows in the upstairs bath with smaller windows, Ms. Zendell stated that she has not purchased any windows. There are two baths upstairs. The previous owners have placed fiberglass shower enclosures in front of the windows. There are full size windows in both baths. Mr. Singeisen stated that this is another item that could benefit with research, some photos of elevations, close -up photos of the windows that are planned to be reduced in size, and some catalog or brochure ideas of the windows that are to be used. Mr. Then moved to table the windows and shutters until a detailed Certificate of Appropriateness can be submitted. Seconded by Ms. Valente. All in favor. Motion carried. Regarding the storage shed, Mr. Singeisen noted that as far as precedents are concerned, because the guidelines never really addressed storage sheds, the way the Board has been handling them and maintaining the continuity is if the storage shed is non - permanent, in other words, a shed doesn't have a concrete foundation that the sill plates are tied into, and if it is in the same area that ancillary buildings are allowed, and the shed is not able to hold a car. It has to be able to be moved easily away and it has to be in the same area that the Board would allow additional construction on a site. There was discussion regarding the placement of the shed. The applicant proposed to place the shed along side the house with the doors accessible to the driveway. Ms. Zendell stated that it would not be used for a car but rather for storage for her business. Mr. Then moved to deny the current application. Seconded by Mr. Myers. Mr. Then stated to the applicant that he welcomes her resubmitting for a new location for the shed. He knows she needs the shed and storage and he wants to help, but not for this particular location. All in favor. Motion carried. Mr. Then moved to remove 210 S. Park Avenue from the table. Seconded by Mr. Rogers. All in favor. Motion carried. Antonio Glover, Glover Brothers Signs, was present. He stated that the letters would be routed, chrome and laminated. Mr. Rogers stated that he feels the way the sign is positioned is inappropriate. Mr. Myers said that under materials in Schedule S, it indicates the sign shall be made of painted wood or canvas. The laminate on MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING OF APRIL 12, 2001 PAGE 3 the front appears to be brushed aluminum or stainless steel. To him, this would not lend a historic appearance. Mr. Singeisen noted that under the sign regulations in the downtown commercial district, it says that only permanent material is allowed, i.e. enamel painted wood or metal signs, although not specifically PVC. Mr. Glover said that the proposal that was made was for routed aluminum or aluminum overlay. The aluminum overlay is a cheaper material. There is no way of telling that the PVC is there by looking straight ahead. Mr. Kuhn moved to approve as submitted. Seconded by Mr. Rogers. All in favor with a suggestion of consideration of placement being centered on the building. Motion carried. The next item was the consideration of a Certificate of Appropriateness for 1109 S. Oak Avenue - install above ground swimming pool. Linda Williams, 1109 S. Oak Avenue, was present. She said she would like to install a 12'x18' pool. The pool will be in- ground 24" but will not be backfilled. There will be decking around the entire pool with Con the west side. A black mesh landscape cover will be installed under the deck. A 6' fence has been approved. Mr. Myers moved to approve. Seconded by Mr. Rogers. All in favor with a variance of 3'. Motion carried. The next item was 310 S. Magnolia, replace wood windows with aluminum windows. Daniel Dorcy was present. He stated that he was not aware that he needed to get approval for the windows. The side windows were wood windows that were completely rotted because of termite damage. He has replaced three wood casement windows with aluminum, double -hung, that are bronze in color. Mr. Kuhn moved to allow the applicant 3 months to change at least one of the windows to wood and that the Board review this in 3 months. Seconded by Mr. Lowe. After discussion, Mr. Kuhn amended his motion that all three windows are to be changed to wood within 3 months. Mr. Lowe seconded the amended motion. Ms. Winternheimer in opposition. All others in favor. Motion carried. Next on the Agenda was 1209 Palmetto Avenue - widen carriage house. Due to the applicant runnin late, Mr. Then moved to table. Seconded by Mr. Lowe. All in favor. Motion carried. Next was 1119 S. Myrtle Avenue, extend 8' high fence and replace side door. Marveen Kelly, 1119 S. Myrtle Avenue, stated that the address used to be 218 W. 12 Street. She stated that the door is a french door that a friend is giving to her. It will be behind the fence. The door is a wooden, glass door, the bottom half is sold wood, it has two glass panels with red and yellow roses with wood fronting on the outside and a wood panel in the middle. The existing fencing is 6'. It is old and will be replaced with an 8' fence. Mr. Kuhn moved to approve the fence and door. Seconded by Ms. Valente. All in favor. Motion carried. Next was the consideration for 718 Oak Avenue - replace door with window. Stephen Myers, 718 Oak Avenue, represented the request. He abstained from voting. MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING OF APRIL 12, 2001 PAGF, 4 Ms. Valente moved to approve as submitted. Seconded by Mr. Then. All in favor. Motion carried. Next on the Agenda was 709 S. Palmetto Avenue - remove outbuilding and construct new outbuilding. Maria Shreve, 709 S. Palmetto Avenue, was present. Mr. Lowe moved to approve as submitted. Seconded by Mr. Kuhn. All in favor, motion carried. The next item considered was 317 Palmetto Avenue - approve drawings of previous concept of approved garage. Mr. Kuhn abstained. Linda Kuhn, 313 Palmetto Avenue, represented the request. She stated that she is requesting a CofA for demolition and for the rendering of the drawings for the rebuild. Mr. Myers moved to approve the concept. Seconded by Mr. Lowe. All in favor. Motion carried. Next on the Agenda was 218 S. Elm Avenue - replace windows; change siding from aluminum to wood; replace flat roof with pitched; repair back of building. Robert Vargason, 218 S. Elm Avenue, was present. He stated that they are requesting to repair the block on the back building, take the flat roof off and put on a pitched roof. He would like to eventually strip the block building and put siding on it to make it look like a wood building. He will do the same pitch on the roof with the metal, same style overhang. Mr. Lowe moved to approve what was already approved. Seconded by Mr. Kuhn as submitted. Motion carried. The next item was a Certificate of Appropriateness for 1002 S. Magnolia Avenue - replace flat roof with gabled. Albert Lehmkuhl was present. He was requesting to remove and replace the insect and water damaged west porch utility room, change the flat roof to a gable roof, and use siding and paint to match the existing house. Mr. Myers moved for approval. Seconded by Mr. Lowe. All in favor. Motion carried. The next item on the Agenda was approval request for a Certificate of Appropriateness for 519 S. Palmetto Avenue - paint mural on fence as part of summer school art class project. Patricia Watley, Tajiri Arts, was present. She said that they would like to paint a mural on the fence as part of the summer school art class that will be conducted by Crealde School of Winter Park. The children will be doing the drawing. MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING OF APRIL 12, 2001 PAGE 5 Ms. Watley stated that she has not checked with any of the neighbors to see if there are any objections Since the final drawings were not complete, it was suggested that the Board approve the concept with the understanding that the final endorsement would be done at a later meeting. This would give the neighborhood and the Board time to be involved and get the information and understanding of what exactly would be taking place. At that time everyone would have more information and feel a lot more comfortable. The drawings will be done a week from Tuesday, painting would start on May 5 th and will finish on the following Saturday. Mr. Kuhn moved to continue this item until 4:30, April 24, 2001, at Tajiri School of Arts. Seconded by Mr. Myers. All in favor. Motion carried. 107 E. 7 th Street, Danielle Trent, requested to continue the Bay Window up to the second story. The wrought iron railing that is on the front porch will be used as fencing along the sidewalk. She stated that one of the reasons she chose the vinyl fencing is not only because there are two other people in the area that already have it, but that it would not have to be repaired like her neighbor's behind her would have to be repaired. Ms. Valente volunteered to help Ms. Trent in a drawing of the bay window. Ms. Trent stated that there are two things that have to be accomplished before she can move in: 1) to get her heat and air taken care of, and 2) to have the downstairs floors done. It is as close as three weeks to her moving in. Mr. Kuhn moved to approve the shiny fence and the wrought iron fence. Motion failed for lack of a second. Mr. Kuhn moved on approval of the vinyl fencing only. Seconded by Ms. Valente. Mr. Then in opposition. All others in favor. Motion carried. Mr. Kuhn moved to table the wrought iron fence. Seconded by Mr. Then. All in favor. Motion carried. The request by Mr. Batten to designate the First Christian Church at 1607 Sanford Avenue a Historic Landmark was withdrawn. There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 8:30 P.M.