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01.10.02Historic Preservation Board Meeting Notice and Agenda Date: January 10, 2002 Location: Sanford City Hall City Commission Chambers 300 North Park Avenue Sanford, Florida 32771 Time: 5:00 p.m. 1. Call to Order 2. Roll Call - excused and unexcused absences 3. Approval of Minutes: December 13, 2001 4. Discussion of lighted awning with Diana Vega for Harry's Tavern, 114 S. Park Ave. 5. Applications for Certificates of Appropriateness — Residential 901 S. Magnolia Ave.: Install solar tubes in roof 711 S. Myrtle Ave.: Replace stockade fence with vinyl fence (ATF) 517 S. Myrtle Ave.: Construct shed in rear yard 812 Elm Ave.: Install new front door 6. Minor Reviews 7. 6 -month Reviews 118 W. 2nd Street 213 Laurel Ave. 310 S. Magnolia Ave 705 Palmetto Ave. 808 Magnolia Ave. 811 Magnolia Ave. 420 Oak Ave. 517 Myrtle Ave. 1118 Palmetto Ave. 1006 Palmetto Ave. Install fixed awning Install vinyl windows; install Remove window; enclose water tank; install porch railings Raise roof to add 2nd story Install wood fence, garage doors and roof Replace door Install 8x10 aluminum shed Add new brackets to porch Install shed; construct detached carport & studio room Install storage shed Construct 6' cypress fence 8. Discussion of two monthly meetings; 9. Chairman and Board's items for discussion 10. Adjournment. MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING OF JANUARY 10, 2002 5:00 P.M. CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS CITY HALL, SANFORD, FL MEMBERS PRESENT: Scott Singeisen Alex Then Maria Shreve Marveen Kelly Barbara Farrell Leslie Stevens Mary Valente Melanie Winternheimer Stephen Myers Robert Kuhn Fred Rogers OTHERS PRESENT: Antonia Gerli, Staff Liaison Mary Muse, Recording Secretary Mr. Singeisen called the meeting to order at 5:00 P.M. Regarding the Minutes of December 13, 2001, Ms. Winternheimer stated that on page 3, concerning the 16 -ft. door, she seconded that motion and also voted to approve that motion. The Minutes should state that Ms. Kelly moved to approve with Ms. Winternheimer voting to approve the motion, not against. Ms. Farrell moved for approval of December 13, 2001 Minutes, with changes. Ms. Winternheimer seconded. All in favor. Motion carried. Item 4, discussion of lighted awning with Diana Vega for Harry's Tavern, 114 S Park Avenue. Ms. Gerli stated that she has not applied yet, she would like to just discuss it. Due to Ms. Vega not being present at this time, the board left it open to address later. Certificate of Appropriateness — Residential: 901 S. Magnolia Avenue — install solar tubes in roof. Ms. Gerli distributed copies regarding information on the solar tubes. Tony Daniels, 901 Magnolia Avenue was present. They would like to install 2 solar tubes to bring in light. They are located on the east side of the residence. There are Oak trees that hide them from 9 Street. Mr. Then advised the board that he met with the owner only to show the location of the solar tubes. MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD JANUARY 10, 2002 PAGE 2 Ms. Farrell moved to approve as submitted. Mr. Then seconded. All in favor. Motion carried. Certificate of Appropriateness — Residential: 711 Myrtle Avenue — replace stockade fence with vinyl fence, after the fact. Vic Gishler, 711 Myrtle Avenue was present. He replaced a dilapidated 20- year -old wood fence about 1 '/ years ago. Code Enforcement cited him for no permit. When he went to get the permit, he was told he needed a certificate of appropriateness. Mr. Singeisen stated that if you replace with like materials it is okay, but when you replace with a different material, a certificate of appropriateness is required. Mr. Kuhn moved to approve as is. Mr. Rogers seconded. All in favor. Motion carried. Certificate of Appropriateness — Residential: 517 S Myrtle Avenue — construct shed in rear yard. Denny Gibbs, 517 S Myrtle Avenue, was present. She is requesting approval to construct a 10 x 12 shed with 5' side setback (north side) and 2' alley setback on the approximate site of the original garage. The shed will have an enclosed area of 12' x 6' with a 4' front porch overhang. The shed will have a 3' door and two windows. It will be clad in Hardy Board lap siding to match the house and have a metal roof. A request to construct a 12' x 20' shed was previously approved at this location by the HPB July 2001. Also, would like approval for a 6' lattice fence around proposed parking area. Mr. Singeisen stated that the parking area requested is in contrast with the immediate neighbors around this property. Schedule S states that if you do parking on your property, you do it a) from the alley, b) away from the street if at a corner property. If you look at the house behind this property, the garage is not on the street side but on the interior side of the lot. The mulched parking area is the same thing. The previous application approved the shed concept at the place where the old garage was based on the survey and the board was actually giving them another garage space at the historic location of the garage, which is consistent with the neighbor across the alley and across 6 Street. The parking area should be away from 6th street and the shed in the fenced- in area. Ms. Gibbs stated that the shed is constructed on site and placed on piers. Not sure of material for windows. They are not visible from the street. Mr. Then advised owner that the windows need to be wood. Ms. Gibbs stated they are currently parking in the same location as being requested. They currently open gates to park. If they take the fence in they would be able to park outside of the fence area. It is easier to get in and out of the alley with the proposal. MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD JANUARY 10, 2002 PAGE 3 Ms. Gibbs requested the application to proceed as it is — with the shed and fence request. Mr. Singeisen stated that an applicant has applied for something and as a board you cannot dissect the application and give them some but not give them other things and still have it stand on its own. The applicant can change it, not the board. Ms. Farrell moved to accept as presented by a variance. It looks better as an open space like that then the existing fence that's all closed up. Mr. Kuhn seconded. Ms. Farrell, Mr. Kuhn, Mr. Rogers, Ms. Shreve, and Ms. Valente were for the motion. Mr. Singeisen, Mr. Then, Ms. Kelly, Ms. Stevens, Ms. Winternheimer, and Mr. Myers were against the motion. Application denied. Ms. Gibbs stated that she would like to reapply for the shed only as shown on the application. Mr. Kuhn made a motion to approve. Mr. Myers seconded. All in favor. Motion carried. Certificate of Appropriateness — Residential: 812 Elm Avenue — install new front door. Ms. Farrell recused herself due to her being the applicant. Ms. Farrell stated that this is after the fact due to emergency situation. They had an A/C unit stolen from the property just 9 hours after it was installed. They went ahead and changed the door with a single lite wood door. Mr. Then moved to approve. Mr. Kuhn seconded. All in favor. Motion carried. Under the minor reviews regarding paint issues, the Board requested that the location of color be stipulated on the application. Under the six months review, the Board requested a letter to be sent to the ones that have not been completed yet alerting the owner that the certificate of appropriateness has expired. Regarding the discussion of two monthly meetings, Mr. Rogers made a motion to revise the procedures to hold a workshop meeting between 5:00 PM and 6:00 PM and the regular meeting starting at 6:00 PM. Mr. Myers seconded. All in favor. Motion carried. Mr. Singeisen stated that the Board needs a building material committee consisting of three or four members. They bring to the awareness of the rest of the board building materials, bring in samples, research what other historic districts do, modern interpretation, no availability of materials that S code say we should be using. Mr. Alex made a motion to establish a standing committee on building materials and applications. MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD JANUARY 10, 2002 PAGE 4 Ms. Winternheimer seconded. All in favor. Motion carried. Members on this committee will be Mr. Then, Ms. Winternheimer, and Ms. Stevens. Mr. Kuhn stated that he would like to recognize the New Tribes Mission for the outstanding work they have done not only on the building but also for the community. The Board needs to have a plaque to acknowledge them. Mr. Singeisen stated that the Board has presented plaques to people. Maybe the Board should at first send a letter commending them on their outstanding job and contribution to the City and maybe there needs to be another committee for a yearly award that goes to one structure. The Board agreed to have a letter sent to NTM for their recognition. Mr. Rogers made a motion to establish an Education Committee. Ms. Kelly seconded. This board would determine type of award to be presented, guidelines for the award, and education of the public. All in favor. Motion carried. Members on this committee will be Mr. Rogers, Ms. Valente, Ms. Farrell, and Ms. Shreve. The S codes will be revised once the grant is awarded. It was mentioned that Mr. Yosefian was knocking holes in the exterior walls to put in A/C units at the property located at 14 & Magnolia. Ms. Gerli stated that Code Enforcement has been notified. Regarding the issue about vinyl fencing, this will be something the new building material committee can address. Regarding Mr. Dunn's building on 3 rd Street, it was approved to have hardy board siding. Ms. Gerli stated that a certificate of occupancy has not been issued yet. There was a question of clarity regarding the Vice - Chairman position. At the last meeting, there was discussion that since Fred had moved out of the historical district area, he could not serve as Vice - Chairman so Alex was nominated as Vice - Chairman. Ms. Gerli stated that the Board should elect a Chairman and a Vice - Chairman at the first of every year. Ms. Farrell made a motion to elect Scott as Chairman. Mr. Kuhn seconded. All in favor. Motion carried. Mr. Rogers stated that he went through some personal issues last year and apologized to the board. Mr. Singeisen stated that since this is the time for re- election, the board could appoint a Vice - Chairman. Mr. Kuhn made a motion to appoint Alex as Vice - Chairman. Those in MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD JANUARY 10, 2002 PAGE 5 favor to appoint Alex was Mr. Kuhn, Ms. Stevens, Mr. Rogers and Mr. Then. Mr. Singeisen asked for those who wanted Mr. Rogers to remain as Vice - Chairman. Those in favor of Mr. Rogers were Mr. Singeisen, Ms. Farrell, Ms. Shreve, Ms. Kelly, Ms. Winternheimer, Ms. Valente, and Mr. Myers. Those against were Mr. Kuhn, Ms. Stevens, and Mr. Then. Mr. Fred Rogers was appointed as Vice - Chairman. If the Chairman and the Vice - Chairman were absent, then Mr. Then would conduct the meeting. Mr. Then would like to see that individuals living in the historical district be informed about the S codes when necessary. Mr. Singeisen stated that this would be a topic for the Education Committee. Mr. Then stated that the board can not amend the S codes, that the board can make recommendations to the City Commission. He was wondering if it was okay for the board to allow hardy board without Commission approval. Ms. Gerli stated that there are provisions that allow the board to approve similar materials. Mr. Then stated that regarding vinyl fences in the front yard, he contacted Ms. Gerli who in turn contacted the City Attorney. The Attorney's opinion is that even though the board approved it for the front yard it does not necessarily set a precedent for future rulings on different properties. Ms. Winternheimer stated that there are different C of A's in the packet. The old application had verbiage regarding requirements on it. Ms. Gerli stated that the new application has an attachment with the requirements. Ms. Winternheimer requested a copy of the new application. Ms. Gerli stated that the Building Official is meeting with the United Methodist Church regarding the condemnation of the building on Palmetto. They want to have it condemned and torn down. The Board stated that the Building Official needs to notify Code Enforcement that the owners are not maintaining this structure and it is the owner's responsibility to do so. If they want to demolish, move, or make a parking lot, the request has to come to this board for approval. There being no further business, meeting adjourned at 7:45 P.M.