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08.08.02Historic Preservation Board Meeting Notice and Agenda Date: August 8, 2002 Location: Sanford City Hall City Commission Chambers 300 North Park Avenue, Sanford, Florida 32771 Time: Workshop 5:00 p.m. Regular Meeting 6:00 p.m. Workshop Regular Meeting 1. Call to Order 2. Roll Call - excused and unexcused absences 3. Approval of Minutes: July 11, 2002 4. Applications for Certificates of Appropriateness — Residential District a) 615 Park Avenue Remove addition at side of house; Restore front porch b) 1119 Myrtle Avenue Extend fence at side of house; Replace rotten wood fence; Add new side door 5. Minor Reviews 6. 6 -month Reviews 213 E. I st St. Repair awning; new roof & beadboard; remove vitrolite glass; repair walls 107 Magnolia Ave. Reroof; replace windows 1006 Palmetto Ave. Construct 6' cypress fence 823 Park Ave. Replace door with window; Remove roof above door 1220 Magnolia Ave. Construct fence 908 Magnolia Ave. Modify existing windows; Construct wall at alley 910 Park Ave. Replace window screens with aluminum screens 802 Palmetto Ave. Place metal storage shed at rear of property 1119 Myrtle Avenue Construct temporary fenced child play area 7. Chairman and Board's items for discussion 8. Adjournment. MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD WORKSHOP MEETING OF AUGUST 8, 2002 5:00 PM CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS CITY HALL, SANFORD, FLORIDA MEMBERS PRESENT: Scott Singeisen Alec Then Maria Shreve Barbara Farrell Leslie Stevens Mary Valente Stephen Myers Rey Sylvester Denny Gibbs Marveen Kelly Tom Goodman OTHERS PRESENT: Antonia Gerli, Staff Liaison Jo -Ann Johnson, Recording Secretary Mr. Singeisen called the workshop meeting to order at 5:00 PM. Mr. Singeisen stated that the subcommittee had selected Land Design Innovations to assist in the re -write of the S code of the Land Development Regulations. Mr. Singeisen queried the Board about the time for starting the workshops with the consultants. The majority of the Board members preferred that the workshops start at the regular 5:00 start time. The dates scheduled with the consultants were acceptable to all Board members. Mr. Singeisen asked about public input for the change to Schedule S. Ms. Gibbs asked if it would be possible to set up some kind of forum on the City Web site for public input. Ms. Gerli advised the Board that the City website is already setup for public concerns or questions. The Board determined that they would like to get together as a group to go through the existing code to indicate problems and areas of concern. The Board set a date of Wednesday August 14, 2002 at 5:00. Mr. Then questioned how the residents in the historic district would be notified. It was determined that the notification would be done in the Seminole Herald as it is for any advertised public meeting or change of codes. Ms. Kelly also advised the Board that the City had a database of all the residents in the Historic District. September 24 will be the date advertised for public input. Ms. Gibbs stated that the Trust could assist in getting the information about the September 24 meeting. Mr. Singeisen mentioned that the Museum has a list of the Historical Society so they may also be able to disseminate the information. The Downtown Business Association may also be able to assist in getting the information to the business owners. Mr. Then agreed to work with the DBA to get a business owners list and to get the mailer 2 out. Mr. Singeisen mentioned that the DBA might be concerned about the restrictive nature of the S codes. Mr. Myers asked about the preservation codes from other areas. Mr. Myers asked if Mr. Singeisen could bring the Hyde Park code for the Board members to review. Mr. Singeisen agreed to bring any examples he had and asked that other Board members do the same. Mr. Singeisen spoke to the Board about Board members submitting for C of A's after the fact. He advised that the Board should expect more of its members. Mr. Then asked if that would mean that it could be a black mark for not applying. Mr. Singeisen affirmed this including the possibility of dismissal. Ms. Gibbs suggested that it is an ethical issue as well. Mr. Singeisen also stated that there was concern about Board members applying for C of A's late and that the Board should recognize the submittal deadlines. Ms. Stevens addressed that Board about the subcommittee coming to a decision about the yard lights for the S code. The materials subcommittee determined that the type of light (Belair or Aztec) was the light they had chosen. They decided that it would be easier to select one type of lamp, which would be a minor review and if the homeowner would like something other than what was approved, they could apply to the board. Installation would be according to the building codes. It was agreed that the bulb needed to be a 40 watt incandescent bulb on a dusk to dawn sensor. Ms. Stevens is to supply the information to Ms. Gerli. A motion was made by Ms. Shreve to include the light style Ms. Stevens had presented with a 40 watt incandescent bulb on a dusk to dawn sensor, wires buried, on grade, with base approximately 24" to 30" from sidewalk and walkway but aligning it with the neighbor's lights. Motioned seconded by Barbara Farrell. Motion carried 11 -0. Workshop concluded at 5:59. MINUTES HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD MEETING OF AUGUST 8, 2002 6:00 PM CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS CITY HALL, SANFORD, FLORIDA MEMBERS PRESENT: Scott Singeisen Alexander Then Mary Valente Leslie Stevens Barbara Farrell Rey Sylvester Stephen Myers Denny Gibbs Maria Shreve Marveen Kelly Thomas Goodman OTHERS PRESENT: Antonia Gerli, Staff Liaison Jo -Ann Johnson, Recording Secretary Mr. Singeisen called the meeting to order at 6:00 PM. Mr. Then made the motion to approve the minutes. Mr. Goodman seconded. Motion carried 11 -0. Item 4A: 615 Park Avenue; Mr. Jon Meeks, owner, would like to restore the property to a single family house, since this property had been converted to a 4 unit apartment building. Mr. Meeks would like approval to remove addition on the side of the house, start tearing off the front porch enclosure and remove the T1 -11 and replace with clapboards. Mr. Singeisen questioned what the reconstruction would involve. Mr. Meeks stated that he is in a exploratory period now. Removal of additions would dictate placement of the previously removed windows and doors. Mr. Singeisen questioned timeframe for re- submittal of the finished product. Mr. Meeks stated that he was looking at several weeks of teardown before he could determine how the completed project might look. Mr. Meeks stated that the area where the rear porch and the side come together may show water damage. Mr. Myers asked to be recused since he was working with the homeowners. Mr. Singeisen is concerned that there have been no examples presented of how the porch will be reconstructed. Mr. Meeks will get assistance of architect with how porch should be restored. Ms. Valente stated that she had spoken with the homeowners about possibly doing some drawings. Ms. Valente stated that she did not feel 2 compromised at this time, but if in fact she did work with the Meeks' on architectural drawings, she may recuse herself in the future. Mr. Singeisen questioned if the owner did see himself approaching the Board in about 60 days or so for approval to rebuild the porch. Mr. Meeks agreed. Mr. Myers stated that the roof structure appeared to be original to the house. Ms. Gibbs questioned about the presence of a 3 rd column in the enclosed bit of porch. Mr. Meeks stated that he thought a lot of materials had been reused from the original structure. Mrs. Valente motioned to approve with a 90 day time period for resubmittal. Ms. Gibbs seconded. Motion carried. 11 -0 Item 411, 1119 Myrtle Avenue; Marveen Kelly requested to extend the 8' stockade fence at the side of the house, to replace the existing 8' stockade rotten wood fence and to install a side door with art glass. Mr. Then questioned if she would accept a 6' wood fence with 2' lattice top. Ms. Kelly stated that type of fence would not be acceptable. She is requesting a 8' wood fence for privacy issues. Ms. Gibbs made a motion to approve. Mr. Then seconded. Discussion ensued. Mr. Myers questioned approval of this door when other doors having art glass have been denied. Mr. Singeisen calculated that there was approx 8' from ground to top of door and it would not be visible from the right of way. Motion carried 6 -4 (Shreve, Valente, Farrell, Stevens). Item 4C, Add -on 706 Palmetto Ave.; Alex Then presenting. Mr. Then was originally approved for single casement window. Double hung windows will be removed from upstairs and will be placed over the kitchen sink. Would also like to put French doors (2) 24" French doors with possible transom above. Transom would not be movable. Transom is in question since head room may not be available. Ms. Kelly motioned to approve. Mr. Sylvester seconded. Motion carried 10 -0. Item 41), Add -on 1109 Oak Ave.; Barbara Farrell presenting for owners Karen & Kevin Lytle. The owners have gone ahead with work without a C of A. Ms. Farrell stated that all the jalousie windows had been removed from the porch. Ms. Gibbs questioned if owners were going to do anything with the columns. Since house was built in 1948 the jalousie windows would have been appropriate. Mr. Myers questioned whether the house is non - contributing. Mr. Singeisen confirmed that the house is non - contributing. Discussion ensued among the Board Members about the awkward appearance of the porch after the removal of the jalousie windows, and what might be an appropriate remedy for the porch. Motion made by Mr. Sylvester to approve as submitted. Mrs. Valente seconded. Discussion ensued regarding appropriate repair. Ms. Gibbs and Mr. Sylvester concurred that double columns may be appropriate. Ms. Gibbs questioned as to whether the owners would be re- screening the porch. Ms. Farrell stated that the new owners may want to re- screen. The Board is concerned that any requests for changes may or may not be done since the house is for sale. Mr. Sylvester amended motion to approve as submitted with the addition of 4 x 4 posts to inside of center of existing columns. Mrs. Valente seconded. Motion denied 1 -9. (Then, Goodman, Kelly, Gibbs, Singeisen, Stevens, Myers, Valente, Shreve). 3 Mr. Myers made a motion to approve as originally submitted. Seconded by Mr. Goodman. Motion carried 5 -4 (Kelly, Gibbs, Singeisen and Valente). Six Month Reviews; Ms. Kelly spoke to Pat Whatley of Tajiri Arts, the planting would be done on the weekend. Additional comments; Historic Trust asked if the Board wanted to take out an ad in the tour brochure again this year. Mr. Singeisen made a motion to purchase a 1 /4 page ad pending submission of rates. Rey Sylvester seconded. Motion carried 11 -0. The Board had the following items for code enforcement: 515 Magnolia Ave., window change out on the southwest corner, siding replacement. Steel doors at 1009 Laurel, 1115 Laurel, 300 block Magnolia still existing, required changes, but nothing has been done. 1111 Magnolia has not removed the art glass in the door. House on the 400 block of Palmetto; windows have been replaced and tree removed. 600 block on Palmetto, board had approved opening up porch but not addition of posts, shed erected in side yard. Railings were added to porch none of which was approved. Code enforcement had been notified, and owners were notified as well about shed. The meeting was adjourned at 7:28 PM.