08.08.02Historic Preservation Board
Meeting Notice and Agenda
Date: August 8, 2002
Location: Sanford City Hall
City Commission Chambers
300 North Park Avenue, Sanford, Florida 32771
Time: Workshop 5:00 p.m.
Regular Meeting 6:00 p.m.
Workshop
Regular Meeting
1. Call to Order
2. Roll Call - excused and unexcused absences
3. Approval of Minutes: July 11, 2002
4. Applications for Certificates of Appropriateness — Residential District
a) 615 Park Avenue Remove addition at side of house; Restore front porch
b) 1119 Myrtle Avenue Extend fence at side of house; Replace rotten wood fence;
Add new side door
5. Minor Reviews
6. 6 -month Reviews
213 E. I st St. Repair awning; new roof & beadboard; remove vitrolite
glass; repair walls
107 Magnolia Ave. Reroof; replace windows
1006 Palmetto Ave. Construct 6' cypress fence
823 Park Ave. Replace door with window; Remove roof above door
1220 Magnolia Ave. Construct fence
908 Magnolia Ave. Modify existing windows; Construct wall at alley
910 Park Ave. Replace window screens with aluminum screens
802 Palmetto Ave. Place metal storage shed at rear of property
1119 Myrtle Avenue Construct temporary fenced child play area
7. Chairman and Board's items for discussion
8. Adjournment.
MINUTES
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
WORKSHOP MEETING OF AUGUST 8, 2002
5:00 PM
CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS
CITY HALL, SANFORD, FLORIDA
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Scott Singeisen
Alec Then
Maria Shreve
Barbara Farrell
Leslie Stevens
Mary Valente
Stephen Myers
Rey Sylvester
Denny Gibbs
Marveen Kelly
Tom Goodman
OTHERS PRESENT:
Antonia Gerli, Staff Liaison
Jo -Ann Johnson, Recording Secretary
Mr. Singeisen called the workshop meeting to order at 5:00 PM.
Mr. Singeisen stated that the subcommittee had selected Land Design Innovations to
assist in the re -write of the S code of the Land Development Regulations. Mr. Singeisen
queried the Board about the time for starting the workshops with the consultants. The
majority of the Board members preferred that the workshops start at the regular 5:00 start
time. The dates scheduled with the consultants were acceptable to all Board members.
Mr. Singeisen asked about public input for the change to Schedule S. Ms. Gibbs asked if
it would be possible to set up some kind of forum on the City Web site for public input.
Ms. Gerli advised the Board that the City website is already setup for public concerns or
questions. The Board determined that they would like to get together as a group to go
through the existing code to indicate problems and areas of concern. The Board set a date
of Wednesday August 14, 2002 at 5:00. Mr. Then questioned how the residents in the
historic district would be notified. It was determined that the notification would be done
in the Seminole Herald as it is for any advertised public meeting or change of codes. Ms.
Kelly also advised the Board that the City had a database of all the residents in the
Historic District. September 24 will be the date advertised for public input. Ms. Gibbs
stated that the Trust could assist in getting the information about the September 24
meeting. Mr. Singeisen mentioned that the Museum has a list of the Historical Society so
they may also be able to disseminate the information. The Downtown Business
Association may also be able to assist in getting the information to the business owners.
Mr. Then agreed to work with the DBA to get a business owners list and to get the mailer
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out. Mr. Singeisen mentioned that the DBA might be concerned about the restrictive
nature of the S codes. Mr. Myers asked about the preservation codes from other areas.
Mr. Myers asked if Mr. Singeisen could bring the Hyde Park code for the Board members
to review. Mr. Singeisen agreed to bring any examples he had and asked that other Board
members do the same.
Mr. Singeisen spoke to the Board about Board members submitting for C of A's after the
fact. He advised that the Board should expect more of its members. Mr. Then asked if
that would mean that it could be a black mark for not applying. Mr. Singeisen affirmed
this including the possibility of dismissal. Ms. Gibbs suggested that it is an ethical issue
as well. Mr. Singeisen also stated that there was concern about Board members applying
for C of A's late and that the Board should recognize the submittal deadlines.
Ms. Stevens addressed that Board about the subcommittee coming to a decision about the
yard lights for the S code. The materials subcommittee determined that the type of light
(Belair or Aztec) was the light they had chosen. They decided that it would be easier to
select one type of lamp, which would be a minor review and if the homeowner would like
something other than what was approved, they could apply to the board. Installation
would be according to the building codes. It was agreed that the bulb needed to be a 40
watt incandescent bulb on a dusk to dawn sensor. Ms. Stevens is to supply the
information to Ms. Gerli. A motion was made by Ms. Shreve to include the light style
Ms. Stevens had presented with a 40 watt incandescent bulb on a dusk to dawn sensor,
wires buried, on grade, with base approximately 24" to 30" from sidewalk and walkway
but aligning it with the neighbor's lights. Motioned seconded by Barbara Farrell. Motion
carried 11 -0.
Workshop concluded at 5:59.
MINUTES
HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
MEETING OF AUGUST 8, 2002
6:00 PM
CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS
CITY HALL, SANFORD, FLORIDA
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Scott Singeisen
Alexander Then
Mary Valente
Leslie Stevens
Barbara Farrell
Rey Sylvester
Stephen Myers
Denny Gibbs
Maria Shreve
Marveen Kelly
Thomas Goodman
OTHERS PRESENT:
Antonia Gerli, Staff Liaison
Jo -Ann Johnson, Recording Secretary
Mr. Singeisen called the meeting to order at 6:00 PM.
Mr. Then made the motion to approve the minutes. Mr. Goodman seconded. Motion
carried 11 -0.
Item 4A: 615 Park Avenue; Mr. Jon Meeks, owner, would like to restore the property
to a single family house, since this property had been converted to a 4 unit apartment
building. Mr. Meeks would like approval to remove addition on the side of the house,
start tearing off the front porch enclosure and remove the T1 -11 and replace with
clapboards. Mr. Singeisen questioned what the reconstruction would involve. Mr.
Meeks stated that he is in a exploratory period now. Removal of additions would dictate
placement of the previously removed windows and doors. Mr. Singeisen questioned
timeframe for re- submittal of the finished product. Mr. Meeks stated that he was looking
at several weeks of teardown before he could determine how the completed project might
look. Mr. Meeks stated that the area where the rear porch and the side come together
may show water damage. Mr. Myers asked to be recused since he was working with the
homeowners. Mr. Singeisen is concerned that there have been no examples presented of
how the porch will be reconstructed. Mr. Meeks will get assistance of architect with how
porch should be restored. Ms. Valente stated that she had spoken with the homeowners
about possibly doing some drawings. Ms. Valente stated that she did not feel
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compromised at this time, but if in fact she did work with the Meeks' on architectural
drawings, she may recuse herself in the future. Mr. Singeisen questioned if the owner did
see himself approaching the Board in about 60 days or so for approval to rebuild the
porch. Mr. Meeks agreed. Mr. Myers stated that the roof structure appeared to be
original to the house. Ms. Gibbs questioned about the presence of a 3 rd column in the
enclosed bit of porch. Mr. Meeks stated that he thought a lot of materials had been
reused from the original structure.
Mrs. Valente motioned to approve with a 90 day time period for resubmittal. Ms. Gibbs
seconded. Motion carried. 11 -0
Item 411, 1119 Myrtle Avenue; Marveen Kelly requested to extend the 8' stockade fence
at the side of the house, to replace the existing 8' stockade rotten wood fence and to
install a side door with art glass. Mr. Then questioned if she would accept a 6' wood
fence with 2' lattice top. Ms. Kelly stated that type of fence would not be acceptable. She
is requesting a 8' wood fence for privacy issues. Ms. Gibbs made a motion to approve.
Mr. Then seconded. Discussion ensued. Mr. Myers questioned approval of this door
when other doors having art glass have been denied. Mr. Singeisen calculated that there
was approx 8' from ground to top of door and it would not be visible from the right of
way. Motion carried 6 -4 (Shreve, Valente, Farrell, Stevens).
Item 4C, Add -on 706 Palmetto Ave.; Alex Then presenting. Mr. Then was originally
approved for single casement window. Double hung windows will be removed from
upstairs and will be placed over the kitchen sink. Would also like to put French doors (2)
24" French doors with possible transom above. Transom would not be movable.
Transom is in question since head room may not be available. Ms. Kelly motioned to
approve. Mr. Sylvester seconded. Motion carried 10 -0.
Item 41), Add -on 1109 Oak Ave.; Barbara Farrell presenting for owners Karen & Kevin
Lytle. The owners have gone ahead with work without a C of A. Ms. Farrell stated that
all the jalousie windows had been removed from the porch. Ms. Gibbs questioned if
owners were going to do anything with the columns. Since house was built in 1948 the
jalousie windows would have been appropriate. Mr. Myers questioned whether the house
is non - contributing. Mr. Singeisen confirmed that the house is non - contributing.
Discussion ensued among the Board Members about the awkward appearance of the
porch after the removal of the jalousie windows, and what might be an appropriate
remedy for the porch. Motion made by Mr. Sylvester to approve as submitted. Mrs.
Valente seconded. Discussion ensued regarding appropriate repair. Ms. Gibbs and Mr.
Sylvester concurred that double columns may be appropriate. Ms. Gibbs questioned as to
whether the owners would be re- screening the porch. Ms. Farrell stated that the new
owners may want to re- screen. The Board is concerned that any requests for changes may
or may not be done since the house is for sale. Mr. Sylvester amended motion to approve
as submitted with the addition of 4 x 4 posts to inside of center of existing columns. Mrs.
Valente seconded. Motion denied 1 -9. (Then, Goodman, Kelly, Gibbs, Singeisen,
Stevens, Myers, Valente, Shreve).
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Mr. Myers made a motion to approve as originally submitted. Seconded by Mr.
Goodman. Motion carried 5 -4 (Kelly, Gibbs, Singeisen and Valente).
Six Month Reviews; Ms. Kelly spoke to Pat Whatley of Tajiri Arts, the planting would
be done on the weekend.
Additional comments; Historic Trust asked if the Board wanted to take out an ad in the
tour brochure again this year. Mr. Singeisen made a motion to purchase a 1 /4 page ad
pending submission of rates. Rey Sylvester seconded. Motion carried 11 -0.
The Board had the following items for code enforcement: 515 Magnolia Ave., window
change out on the southwest corner, siding replacement. Steel doors at 1009 Laurel,
1115 Laurel, 300 block Magnolia still existing, required changes, but nothing has been
done. 1111 Magnolia has not removed the art glass in the door. House on the 400 block
of Palmetto; windows have been replaced and tree removed. 600 block on Palmetto,
board had approved opening up porch but not addition of posts, shed erected in side yard.
Railings were added to porch none of which was approved. Code enforcement had been
notified, and owners were notified as well about shed.
The meeting was adjourned at 7:28 PM.