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HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
MEETING OF APRIL 8, 1999
5:00 P.M.
CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS, CITY HALL
SANFORD, FLORIDA
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Scott Singeisen
Eline Ransom
Julia Goeb
Walt Padgett
Bart Rush
Fred Rogers
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Sica Nacu- excused
Kimberly Kmett
Barbara Farrell
Don Moore
OTHERS PRESENT:
Andrew Van Gaale, Staff Liaison
Marion Anderson - Recording Secretary
Joe Russo
Henry Nixon
Bryant Smith
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 5:00 P.M.
Ms. Goeb moved on approval of the Minutes with changes regarding the scale concerns for the C of A at 103 E.
13 Street; and, with Mr. Moore in favor of the motion of approval of 1107 Oak Ave. with the applicant being
told that he has a right to appeal. Seconded by Mr. Padgett. Motion carried.
Application for Certificate of Appropriateness - 519 Palmetto Avenue - Install Vinyl Siding on Building,
Replace /Repair Windows, Re -roof and Install Handicap Ramp.
Henry Nixon, volunteer for Tajiri Arts School of Performing Arts and Academics, and Bryant Smith, construction
manager, were present. Mr. Nixon stated that they have been awarded a$ 100,000 grant to restore The Little Red
School House. One issue is the lead based paint on the exterior of the building. To eradicate the paint, it would
consume $60,000 to $75,000. It was decided that the vinyl siding route would be more economical.
Mr. Smith stated that they are proposing to use a vinyl siding that emulates wood. The roof is in dire need of
repair and a handicap ramp is being proposed for the north side of the building. Some of the windows are beyond
repair. Some will be repaired and some replaced.
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Mr. Rogers stated that because this is one of the more historic structures in the district as a form of a public use
facility, one of the original school buildings, the owner needs to do more research on the federal level and look at
the national preservation briefs and information on encapsulating and restoring lead based paint on school
structures.
Mr. Smith stated that they were waiting on prices for the asphalt shingle roof, dimensional shingles or an
architectural shingle, with the same type color of brownish -red. The existing windows will be simulated with
wood. The windows that are in transition that are half covered in wood siding and half opened, will be restored to
natural condition. Mr. Smith stated that the handicap ramp that is being requested will not be visible from any
streets.
Mr. Rush stated that once this building is restored there are more possibilities for monies just because of the
classes being held in a historic building. There are more grant monies that the applicant will not qualify for
because the building has been encased in vinyl siding. Because of what is being housed in the facility,
government monies equal to or greater than the $100,000 can be drawn. Mr. Rush stated that his concern is for
Tajiri, that down the road, as Sanford evolves into a better historic community, Tajiri will be passed up for future
monies because of what is being done now. Short term is may be what you need, but long term may be definite
for the ultimate goal.
Ms. Ransom moved to approve Item 1 of this request, the roof. Seconded by Ms. Goeb. All in favor. Motion
carried. Ms. Ransom moved to table and to not approve the vinyl siding cladding and soffit encasement but to
encourage the applicant to research more appropriate methods of restoring the siding and soffit of the building
especially regarding the lead based paint that is used in the abatement and the Board would like some two -way
discussion on Item 2, install vinyl clad siding over existing building's exterior wood clap board. Ms. Goeb
seconded. Motion carried. Mr. Padgett moved that Item 3 of this request to repair /replace all window panes,
sills, trim and weights and made operable be done with comparable wood material so that they will be custom
sized. Seconded by Mr. Rush. Motion carried. Mr. Rogers moved to approve Item 4 of this request, to install an
additional handicap ramp on the north side of the building, with Mr. Van Gaale's guidance and approval of the
site plan. Seconded by Ms. Goeb. Motion carried.
Application for Certificate of Appropriateness - 919 Park Avenue - Demolish and Replace Garage, Enclose
Stairwell and Construct Balcony on Main House: Jerry Uhran, 1 S. Orange Ave., Orlando, was present. He stated
that the overall footprint of the garage has been reduced from 32'x31' to 26'x a little less than 30'. The total
square footage of the entire project has been substantially reduced. The approach is to demolish the structure and
salvage everything that is of value and use the material in the new design. They would like to use the siding to
replace and/or repair the main structure.
Mr. Rush moved to approve the demolition of the existing two car garage and the approval of the addition of a
new two car garage with an in -law apartment to conform to Schedule S materials list. Seconded by Mr. Rogers.
Motion carried.
Mr. Uhran stated that the second portion of the request to remove an exterior set of stairs from the ground level to
the second floor of the balcony in the rear in the southeast corner and to enclose a portion of that corner so that a
new internal set of stairs can be constructed. The columns that would support the second
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floor balcony and the second floor would be similar to those on the front porch. He will match the brick pedestal
and shorten the columns.
Mr. Rogers moved to approve the plan based on elevations with the addition of the masonry base to mirror the
front porch and using Schedule S materials and deny the screening of the balcony until the applicant comes in
with more screening plans. Mr. Rogers withdrew his motion.
Ms. Goeb moved to approve the addition of the balcony and enclosed staircase as presented with the masonry
base on the columns excluding the screened -in enclosure. Seconded by Mr. Rush. Motion carried.
Mr. Van Gaale stated that the fencing would be reviewed at Staff level when a Certificate of Appropriateness is
submitted. The fencing was not a part of this application.
Joe Russo, 215 Oak Avenue, representing 300 Elm Avenue for a driveway. Mr. Singeisen stated
that the owners are requesting to add a single car driveway along the south border of the lot to extend 20' west of
the sidewalk. There was no existing facility for off - street parking near the busy intersection.
Mr. Russo stated that it has been excavated and formed and the City curb has been broken without a permit.
There is an alley but there is a tiny house between this house and the alley, so there is no access from the alley.
The people that previous lived there were using the next door driveway until the tenants changed, and the tenants
put up a make -shift barrier.
Ms. Goeb moved to approve because of the fact that there is no alley access behind this house and its proximity to
3r Street. Seconded by Mr. Rogers. Motion carried.
Mr. Van Gaale amended the discussion on the Memorial Park Local Historic Designation to include the Sanford
Memorial Stadium. The reason being is that the State of Florida is soliciting special category grants which are
larger grants up to $250,000. He has started looking around for projects and the Seawall is in dire need of repair.
The idea was that this Board could recommend that Memorial Park, just where the flagpole is, is historic. It
doesn't have to be but could help in getting a grant to replace that part of the Seawall. The other project would be
Sanford Memorial Baseball Stadium. We could get one or both of these projects at least conceptually moving
forward from this Board to the City Commission. These grant applications have to be in by the end of May.
Mr. Padgett moved that the Board designate the Memorial Park and the Sanford Memorial Stadium as local
historic designations. Seconded by Ms. Goeb. Motion carried.
Mr. Padgett asked if the Chairman could, when he calls the meeting to order, state that this meeting of the Historic
Preservation Board will come to order. That the HPB is a government board appointed by the City. This should
be done because of misinformation and no credibility.
Mr. Padgett wanted it entered into the record that the Burger King is a beautiful structure, that the Board
compromised with the Burger King Corporation and now there is 30' of purple on the end that negates the whole
project. He rephrased that it doesn't negate the work that was done in making the compromise. It takes away
from the appearance of the building.
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Mr. Singeisen noted that May 6 th is the Chamber of Commerce Realtors Tour. He stated that he has arranged to
map the Realtor's Tour through the Historic District as well as be on the bus to represent the HPB and Schedule
S. He would like approval from this Board for him to represent the HPB along with Barbara Farrell at this event.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 7:00 P.M.