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HISTORIC PRESERVATION BOARD
MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 9, 1999
5:00 P.M.
CITY COMMISSION CHAMBERS, CITY HALL
SANFORD, FLORIDA
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Scott Singeisen
Bob Kuhn
Fred Rogers
Barbara Farrell
Bart Rush
Don Moore
Walt Padgett
Sica Nacu
MEMBERS ABSENT:
Julia Goeb
Eline Ransom
OTHERS PRESENT:
Andrew Van Gaale, Staff Liaison
Marion Anderson - Recording Secretary
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 5:00 P.M.
Ms. Farrell moved to approve the Minutes as circulated. Seconded by Mr. Rush. All in favor. Motion carried.
First on the Agenda was an application for a Certificate of Appropriateness, Commercial, for 211 W. 1s Street -
remove existing metal windows and replace with aluminum frame windows.
Jim Doyle, 162 Pinecrest Drive, stated that 3 months ago the windows were covered with stucco. In the process
of redoing the inside of the structure, paneling was removed and the old windows were uncovered. The old
windows were metal and rusty and have been removed. He stated that he had not looked at replacing them with
wood windows. The cost would be more than what they have planned to spend.
Ms. Nacu moved to approve as submitted. Mr. Rush seconded for discussion. He noted that mullions could be
used on the windows as a historical affect and option. The mullions clip in and are very cost effective. 6 over 1
windows with the clip in mullions were discussed. Ms. Nacu moved to amend her motion to include 6 over 1
windows and clip ins to match. The amendment was seconded by Mr. Rogers. The motion and the amendment
were unanimously carried.
The next item was 105 E. 1s Street, Suite 102 - install security window tinting inside window. Robert Barston,
1124 Trotwood Blvd., Winter Springs, was present. He stated that he has a small medical claims consulting
company. Due to the fact that there is a lot of computer equipment in the store, they wanted to put some tint on
the window to provide some security as well as blending in with the Historic District Downtown. It was too costly
to fit the horizontal louver blinds for the windows and the doors. The tint is a film and it can
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be removed. It doesn't appear to be offensive. Mr. Barston tends to believe that the tint is 20% daylight
reduction. Mr. Singeisen stated that he feels the tint removes the pedestrian from the storefront and while it might
be an office of different persuasion and inviting pedestrians in, he feels that appropriate signage painted on the
windows might solve the problem.
Ms. Nacu moved to approve as submitted. Seconded by Ms. Farrell. Mr. Kuhn stated that there are many impact
films that are clear and that this is too reflective. Both purposes of security and reflection could be served by
using a clear impact film. Mr. Rogers, Mr. Singeisen, and Mr. Kuhn in opposition. All others in favor. Motion
carried.
The next consideration was for 211 E. Is' Street - install 79' of canvas awning valance with lettering. John Hepp
was present representing Pieces of Eight Antiques, formerly known as Kathy's Books and Baby Store. They
would like to install 79' of valance using the parapet. The lettering will be white.
Mr. Padgett moved for approval. Seconded by Ms. Farrell. All in favor. Motion carried.
On the Addendum to the Agenda, the first item was 410 Oak Avenue - install carport in rear parking area. Bob
Panaro, 410 Oak Avenue, was present. He stated that he recently bought a new 10 year old car and wanted
something to protect the car from the sun and rain. What he is proposing is aluminum with a steel frame that has
a canvas roof. This will not be visible from Oak Avenue.
Ms. Farrell moved to approve one canvas carport, color selection to go through minor review, and if it is
financially feasible, to box the poles. Seconded by Ms. Nacu. All in favor. Motion carried.
Next was the consideration of 601 Palmetto Avenue - replace windows with vinyl double hung windows.
Bryan Nash, 601 Palmetto Avenue, was present. He stated that these are vinyl framed windows. He is asking for
the vinyl windows because of the difference in price for wood windows. The house, at this time, has 3 aluminum
framed windows. There are 16 windows in the house. Three in the back are boarded up. Mr. Kuhn gave him a
name and number where he could get wood windows for less than the aluminum.
Ms. Nacu moved to approve with wood windows. Seconded by Mr. Kuhn. All in favor. Motion carried.
The next item was 401 S. Magnolia Avenue - 1) replace siding on rear portion of building, 2) remove enclosure
on front porch and replace with siding.
Mr. Van Gaale stated that the back porch to the east of the building, on the 4 th Street side, has a hodge -podge of
aluminum siding and plain faced plywood with an air conditioning unit. The applicant wants to seal up this room
and put the siding where the wood is. He recommended to the applicant to re -side the whole porch rather than
patching in where the plywood now exists. The applicant proposes to do the aluminum, which is on the main
building. The air conditioner will be taken out and he thinks the windows will remain.
Mr. Van Gaale stated that enclosure on the front porch is on the north end. Someone had actually built a closet
that pushed out from the interior room onto the porch.
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Mr. Rogers moved to approve the first item of replacing the siding on the first floor back wall completely with
aluminum that matches the existing building. Seconded by Mr. Kuhn. All in favor. Motion carried. Mr. Padgett
moved to approve item two of this request. Seconded by Mr. Rush. All in favor. Motion carried.
The next item was 301 W. 7 th Street (Student Museum) - install gazebo, rose arbor and brick walk. Mr. Padgett
represented this request. He stated that Old South Manufacturing, 2nd Street, is building the gazebo. A 10 -foot,
octagon, victorian gazebo that will be painted white. The same person also donated the rose arbor. It is 4x4,
western red cedar, and the lattice work is 1/4 -inch thick white.
Ms. Farrell moved to approve. Seconded by Mr. Rogers. All in favor. Motion carried.
Consideration of 1201 Oak Avenue - remodel non - conforming structure was moved to table by Mr. Kuhn due to
lack of representation. Seconded by Ms. Nacu. All in favor. Motion carried.
Regarding the Fina/Texaco status report, Mr. Van Gaale stated this item will be going to the City Commission
next Monday night. Fina/Texaco has exhausted all appeals and they did have an opportunity to try to settle, one
way or another, and attempts to reach them were unsuccessful. They did not respond by the time required by the
courts to meet the final appeal time line.
Mr. Van Gaale stated that the City is in the process of retaining consultants for our engineering and planning
services. Four consultants will be retained on an as needed basis. Mr. Van Gaale suggested
that once a consultant is retained, the Board may be wise to set up an appointment for a worksession to consider
the whole section of Schedule S.
Ms. Nacu stated that she is getting ready to open a bed and breakfast. There is a sign in the window and she
asked where she could put the sign. She is to bring in a C of A and details of the sign at next month's meeting.
Ms. Nacu reported that they have had four meetings regarding the intersection of Park Avenue and 13 Street.
They are in the process of weeding out the big trucks that speed and is very loud. She stated that the old filling
station at Park and 13 Street has a very negative effect on the area. When she directs people to her business, this
is one of the first things they see. She stated that something has to be done at this location.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 6:45 P.M.